New forum moderator required
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jaudere
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I agree and disagree on 1st point and last point.
Why the heck/hell the moderator should not love and hear his own gear, itz like mentioning a family doctor should not take care of his own family
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I hope you didn't feel that I really meant it. What I meant to say was ,if you expect moderator to do all those things, when is he going to enjoy his own music/videos?
As I said, I access the forum on my mobile and find it difficult to put proper smiley which can easily convey when I am serious and when I am not.But I am on PC now
Thanks Venkat, that would be great. Much appreciated.
While we are at it, could we also list what type of posts should be reported. We know the usual ones, but need to understand HFV's stand on some For eg: Should we report new threads started without searching? How about crossposting?
Venkat - I'm not interested any more because the forum members don't have the same ideas I do. I realize that I am not the right person to be a mod on this forum.
What I think is wasteful is considered useful here so no point in me wanting to be a mod any more.
What I think is wasteful is considered useful here so no point in me wanting to be a mod any more.
srinisundar
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Bluu,
Your word is typically like "Go for Wharf" recommendation.. Just think Nothing is waste here.. Only it has to be recycled properly.
I once again vote for Bluu
1. Threads that have degenerated into a fight, or the start of a fight that I could force peace upon.
2. The use of improper language.
3. Any discussion that is not related to A/v.
4. Yes, threads without proper searches from new members
5. Useless postings in For Sale.
6. SMS and non-English postings
7. Anything else that does not follow the rules.
8. Spamming of any kind.
Cheers
Bluu,
Your word is typically like "Go for Wharf" recommendation.. Just think Nothing is waste here.. Only it has to be recycled properly.
I once again vote for Bluu
Srini - when I say waste, I don't mean it as an insult to any of the members. I just want to help the other mods keep track of things. Venkat has made a list of concerns. I don't even mind if I get a small responsibility like taking care of some sub-forums to ensure the language being used is proper. I'm qualified for that. I hold a CBSE scholarship in English!
Also, I hope your vote is serious and not sarcastic. Not everyone has proper English skills and if someone can help with that, why can't that be taken away as a positive?
Again, to be clear, my intention is not to prove that I am a master of English to other members by wanting to wield moderation powers. It's to help improve the standard of HFV the best I can.
Venkat - the list you have drawn up is pretty exhaustive. Let me know if you need help with some of it.
srinisundar
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Bluu,
I could understand what you meant as "Waste", so that only i used the word "recycling" instead of "dustbin".
Absolutely no sarcastic on my vote for sure
Yep, it is an good thought to improve everybody's (including mine) "Tanglish" to English
and for sure support will be there, since everybody is competing globally in their profession and let this be an opportunity if any body is willing.Thad E Ginathom
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Just for debate and the expressing of opinion...
What, for instance, is a useless post on a 'for sale' thread.
Is it useless, for instance, to have a chat about pc-based sound on a DAC-for-sale thread? But what a mod could do is to move such content to either an existing, related thread, or to a new one with a title that lets people know what is under discussion.
Is it useless to say, "Wow, wish I could afford one of those." Is it useless to say, "I had one of these once: they are crap"? Certainly the latter wouldn't be welcomed by the seller, but this is a forum, isn't it? As to the former, sure, it serves no purpose, but is anyone the worse off for it? No.
About the only no-issues-useless post I can think of is "bump" because the seller hasn't had a bid within half an hour.
This is not to focus on the for-sale section, what I'm really talking about is how impossible (and wrong) it is for forum moderation to be by-the-rules black-and-white.
What, for instance, is a useless post on a 'for sale' thread.
Is it useless, for instance, to have a chat about pc-based sound on a DAC-for-sale thread? But what a mod could do is to move such content to either an existing, related thread, or to a new one with a title that lets people know what is under discussion.
Is it useless to say, "Wow, wish I could afford one of those." Is it useless to say, "I had one of these once: they are crap"? Certainly the latter wouldn't be welcomed by the seller, but this is a forum, isn't it? As to the former, sure, it serves no purpose, but is anyone the worse off for it? No.
About the only no-issues-useless post I can think of is "bump" because the seller hasn't had a bid within half an hour.
This is not to focus on the for-sale section, what I'm really talking about is how impossible (and wrong) it is for forum moderation to be by-the-rules black-and-white.
Kudos Venkat!! That is a good list and I am glad to see "threads without proper searches from new members" in the list. Will report as and when I come across such redundant threads.
I was not active for a while and had not read Bluu's writing much. But after reading his posts, I too vote for Bluu and Spiro as additional mods.
Thad, different people will have their opinions which makes HFV a forum in the first place. I believe that a For Sale thread should be one of those where every post is moderated just so that there are no unwanted posts at all. The seller starts the thread, posts additional information, if any, and closes once done. However, that is my opinion and it is not something everyone subscribes to. You yourself said that in hifi one man's pudding is another man's poison (your's sounded better) which is why "This is crap" type posts should be prevented. If someone feels the need to post on a For Sale thread, they can do so and moderators can determine if the post will be useful to the community.
About the point of having an OT discussion on the for sale thread that you mentioned, its wrong and should also be dissuaded. I apologize for partaking in it myself. Good moderation would be to gently ask people to move to a new thread if an OT discussion was brewing. Again, idea is not to autocratically rule the forum, just like you have said.
Let's all think of our existing and maybe upcoming mods as friends and keep the forum happy and bustling!
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+++ 1 .. ..Again To add I am pretty happy with the current moderation, baring occasional tit bits ..... which is kinda okie .....
srinisundar
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sam9s;+++ 1 .. ..Again To add I am pretty happy with the current moderation said:
kinda okie
Thad E Ginathom
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Where's the kinda thanks button? 
OK, after having gone through this thread thrice, I have noted down a few points that I think make sense.
(1) SMS Lingo to be restricted
(2) Change colour scheme (the possibility of this will be evaluated by SuperMod)
(3) Make it more user friendly for mobile devices? (again to be evaluated by SuperMod)
(4) Discussion or posts that add no value should be deleted. I would like some suggestions on how to do this. The only way I can see is to either block all posts for approval, or ruthlessly delete posts that I think are useless. The second method will generate a wave of anger and frustration.
(5) Threads started on existing topics should be merged. Threads in wrong section should be moved into the right section. This way we'll have organised information rather than diluted information all over the place. Agreed. May take time, but will see if we can do this forum by forum. Needs a lot of time.
(6) We should have stricter rules for 'trash' posts. Agreed. Will work with SuperMod to enhance the rule book.
(7) A cleanup is definitely required before the clutter increases. Agreed - same as (5)
(8) Healthy moderation of posts regarding quality of content, relevance of content, quality of language etc. A little too broad allowing for subjectivity in moderation.
(9) Posts by new members to be moderated before they appear. Agreed, but how do you measure new members? Less than 100 posts. less than 6 months on the forum. Remember there are members with a membership age of two years but less than 10 posts. How do you measure them?
(10) Remove all posts that are of no substantial value to a thread. Repeat offenders get infracted, temporarily banned and then perma-banned. (Eg. best wishes for your sale etc). Agreed. Same as (4).
(11) Ensure all posts are written in non-SMS, English language. Repeat offenders get infracted, temporarily banned and then perma-banned. Agreed.
(12) Disallow cross-posting. It's part of the rules but I've seen many people open threads in different sub-forums to get exposure. Repeat offenders get infracted, temporarily banned and then perma-banned. Agreed.
(13) Disallow new threads for existing topics. There must be a hundred threads about TVs in the 40K range. If everything lives in the same thread, the information get collated automatically. New members who default can be informed and senior members can be infracted. Agreed.
(14) Please remove the 'more than three letters' and 'minimum 30 sec' limitations in forum search. May not be possible due to software / application limitation. To check with SuperMod.
Another idea that has been floating around in my mind is that of a Forum Monitor. We can take interested members to be Monitors for the forum who will bring troublesome posts and threads to the attentions of the moderators. We can create a communication methodology for immediate attention. After a while, seeing the interest of the Monitors and their consent, we can make them full time moderators. The reason I am brining this up is because 'Report Threads' is not working at all. I see no threads being reported. For example, I was shocked recently to see a open fight going on in a thread on projectors, and I discovered it by chance when I was going through the lengthy thread.
Monitors must remember there will people with huge egos or convoluted ideas that conflict with yours. Fortunately you wont face their wrath till you become a moderator.
Please give me your feedback in a meaningful manner and I will work with the other moderators to implement them.
Cheers
(1) SMS Lingo to be restricted
(2) Change colour scheme (the possibility of this will be evaluated by SuperMod)
(3) Make it more user friendly for mobile devices? (again to be evaluated by SuperMod)
(4) Discussion or posts that add no value should be deleted. I would like some suggestions on how to do this. The only way I can see is to either block all posts for approval, or ruthlessly delete posts that I think are useless. The second method will generate a wave of anger and frustration.
(5) Threads started on existing topics should be merged. Threads in wrong section should be moved into the right section. This way we'll have organised information rather than diluted information all over the place. Agreed. May take time, but will see if we can do this forum by forum. Needs a lot of time.
(6) We should have stricter rules for 'trash' posts. Agreed. Will work with SuperMod to enhance the rule book.
(7) A cleanup is definitely required before the clutter increases. Agreed - same as (5)
(8) Healthy moderation of posts regarding quality of content, relevance of content, quality of language etc. A little too broad allowing for subjectivity in moderation.
(9) Posts by new members to be moderated before they appear. Agreed, but how do you measure new members? Less than 100 posts. less than 6 months on the forum. Remember there are members with a membership age of two years but less than 10 posts. How do you measure them?
(10) Remove all posts that are of no substantial value to a thread. Repeat offenders get infracted, temporarily banned and then perma-banned. (Eg. best wishes for your sale etc). Agreed. Same as (4).
(11) Ensure all posts are written in non-SMS, English language. Repeat offenders get infracted, temporarily banned and then perma-banned. Agreed.
(12) Disallow cross-posting. It's part of the rules but I've seen many people open threads in different sub-forums to get exposure. Repeat offenders get infracted, temporarily banned and then perma-banned. Agreed.
(13) Disallow new threads for existing topics. There must be a hundred threads about TVs in the 40K range. If everything lives in the same thread, the information get collated automatically. New members who default can be informed and senior members can be infracted. Agreed.
(14) Please remove the 'more than three letters' and 'minimum 30 sec' limitations in forum search. May not be possible due to software / application limitation. To check with SuperMod.
Another idea that has been floating around in my mind is that of a Forum Monitor. We can take interested members to be Monitors for the forum who will bring troublesome posts and threads to the attentions of the moderators. We can create a communication methodology for immediate attention. After a while, seeing the interest of the Monitors and their consent, we can make them full time moderators. The reason I am brining this up is because 'Report Threads' is not working at all. I see no threads being reported. For example, I was shocked recently to see a open fight going on in a thread on projectors, and I discovered it by chance when I was going through the lengthy thread.
Monitors must remember there will people with huge egos or convoluted ideas that conflict with yours. Fortunately you wont face their wrath till you become a moderator.
Please give me your feedback in a meaningful manner and I will work with the other moderators to implement them.
Cheers
We should also look at the thought of asking the seller to quote the price at which the product was bought, it will provide an equal base/right for buyers as well since the seller is free to quote a price he/she deems fit.
deepakgang
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Thanks Venkat for putting it all together. I think more or less all points are covered.
In my opinion, all new threads started by members with less than 20 posts (or so and not a high number) should be evaluated before publishing. This will take care of most of the above mentioned issues. (9) We shouldn't consider the joining date as someone might have joined and asked a question couple of years ago, then haven't come back till he had another query which doesn't bring much value to the forum. This can also urge them to contribute more and being active here.
(6) Does this include 'low-fi' related threads. If we can arrive at a consensus as to what is low-fi, we should not publish threads on low-fi products which in my opinion is impacting the quality of the forum. But I feel those who consider low-fi products might change their minds after a while. So why don't we start a low-fi section under the general tab. May be 'AV Lounge' whcih already exists is what I am talking about. Then moderators could move such topics there.
In my opinion, all new threads started by members with less than 20 posts (or so and not a high number) should be evaluated before publishing. This will take care of most of the above mentioned issues. (9) We shouldn't consider the joining date as someone might have joined and asked a question couple of years ago, then haven't come back till he had another query which doesn't bring much value to the forum. This can also urge them to contribute more and being active here.
(6) Does this include 'low-fi' related threads. If we can arrive at a consensus as to what is low-fi, we should not publish threads on low-fi products which in my opinion is impacting the quality of the forum. But I feel those who consider low-fi products might change their minds after a while. So why don't we start a low-fi section under the general tab. May be 'AV Lounge' whcih already exists is what I am talking about. Then moderators could move such topics there.
baijuxavior
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Thanks venkatcr for the suggestions. A few suggestions for your consideration
1. Changing color theme should not affect browsing from a mobile device.
2. There should be option to select a theme from a set that suits the user.
3. SMS lingo should be strictly controlled. A few approved abbreviations can be continued.
4. New users should be determined on the number of posts not the time they joined.
5. Concept of forum monitor is highly appreciated. Members who are most active in the forum can be promoted to monitors and then to moderators.
6. Depending on reputation points, users should be given ranks like 'apprentice' etc.
1. Changing color theme should not affect browsing from a mobile device.
2. There should be option to select a theme from a set that suits the user.
3. SMS lingo should be strictly controlled. A few approved abbreviations can be continued.
4. New users should be determined on the number of posts not the time they joined.
5. Concept of forum monitor is highly appreciated. Members who are most active in the forum can be promoted to monitors and then to moderators.
6. Depending on reputation points, users should be given ranks like 'apprentice' etc.
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