Panasonic 50GT50

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Any Mumbai owner of Panasonic 50GT50? What's the best price? Panasonic brand shop agreed to match price on the best deal but within Mumbai.

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I'm not sure about the best price. However, I got to know today from a Panasonic Pune dealer that now there is not much difference in prices of 50ST50 and 50GT50 TVs. He is going to let me know by tomorrow afternoon (after checking availability) the prices of both 50ST50 and 50GT50.
 
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Showroom quoted 1.25K best price. I felt it is a bit on higher side. Kohinoor said the ST50 should be in stock soon. I may go for a demo tomorrow.

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The dealer told me that now there is just 3-4K price difference. Which I found hard to believe. If I can get 50GT50 by paying just 3-4K more than 50ST50, I would be more than happy. I'm hoping that things would fall in place and I would be able to book the TV tomorrow itself.
 
When I was in the market (last July), I was quoted 105K for 50ST50 (with HTiB gift) and 120K for 50GT50 (again with HtiB). The MRP was 114,900 and 129,500 respectively. I suppose that price has dropped by 10-15% now.
 
Just came to know from the dealer that 50GT50 will cost 110K. He did not seem to be willing to reduce the price by much, may be, it can still be reduced by 2-3K. He said, the stock would arrive in 3 days. I told him that I would let him know by tomorrow.

Friends, would 107K be a good price for this TV?
 
Just came to know from the dealer that 50GT50 will cost 110K. He did not seem to be willing to reduce the price by much, may be, it can still be reduced by 2-3K. He said, the stock would arrive in 3 days. I told him that I would let him know by tomorrow.

Friends, would 107K be a good price for this TV?

Not a bad price. Infibeam sold it for 98k last month. But online prices are usually cheaper.

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Last week when I went to visit Kohinoor, I asked for the price of ST & GT. Looks like they are using 20% discount to quote prices of the models. You can haggle for few more. But as of now, no meaning as there is stock. Though he said, if I confirm he will try to arrange from somewhere :rolleyes:
 
By the way, the dealer told me that now there is no offer on the TV. So we won't get anything free with the TV. There is some confusion among the dealers about free gift offer. One dealer told me that the Diwali offer of free printer is still running (till 31st Dec) and the other dealer told me that this offer is no longer available. Does someone have any concrete information on it?
 
Shaiju, Isn't it worth waiting to see what kind of deals are available on 26th Jan? Usually some mouth watering deals are offered during that time of the year across commodities. Since this is a 2012 model, buying it in jan 2013 may yield better discounts...this is my version just a hunch...Is Panasonic actually stopping plasma production...any idea?
 
Shaiju, Isn't it worth waiting to see what kind of deals are available on 26th Jan? Usually some mouth watering deals are offered during that time of the year across commodities. Since this is a 2012 model, buying it in jan 2013 may yield better discounts...this is my version just a hunch...Is Panasonic actually stopping plasma production...any idea?
I was waiting for "mouth watering" deals for nearly 3 years - well take one year out as during that time I was not actively looking. :)

As regards to other observations:

- 2013 models will not be available till May at the very least
- Panasonic may exit from plasma line altogether: http://japandailypress.com/panasonic-considering-an-end-to-plasma-tv-production-1820054

So my advice will be, if there is no pressing need, one should wait.
 
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As regards to other observations:

- 2013 models will not be available till May at the very least
- Panasonic may exit from plasma line altogether: Panasonic considering an end to plasma TV production - The Japan Daily Press

So my advice will be, if there is no pressing need, one should wait.

So it is true...thanks for the link...Now my question to you is that even if they are shutting down plasmas in future...will you advise me to go for a pana plasma on sheer PQ brilliance? Since my requirement is best PQ should I opt for a Samsung Plasma or maybe a LED just based on the fact that Pana may be shutting down?
What Im trying to say is that, even if they do shut down, it won't affect me, right? The TV should go on for 5 yrs at least depending on usage? The only pitfall is that resale value could be nil. COrrect me if Im wrong & tell me what you would have opted for if you were in my place looking for a big tv with excellent PQ...

thanks again
 
So it is true...thanks for the link...Now my question to you is that even if they are shutting down plasmas in future...will you advise me to go for a pana plasma on sheer PQ brilliance? Since my requirement is best PQ should I opt for a Samsung Plasma or maybe a LED just based on the fact that Pana may be shutting down?
What Im trying to say is that, even if they do shut down, it won't affect me, right? The TV should go on for 5 yrs at least depending on usage? The only pitfall is that resale value could be nil. COrrect me if Im wrong & tell me what you would have opted for if you were in my place looking for a big tv with excellent PQ...

thanks again
I will ask you just one counter question. Do you hear Pioneer Kuro owners complaining? In fact they are bragging. ;)

But humour aside, there will be some real worries such as if retail plasma panel production stops, and if the panel conks off, there may be no replacement. Modern display panels claim large/long life but these are not the days of the old CRT where nothing used to happen to the main display for years together. But today are different times.

Let us assume that Panasonic exits the plasma business in 2013. So an interesting scenario emerges. What happens to the 3 year panel warranty? I tend to think that they will continue to manufacture the panels in a limited number based on the average failure rates per region and to cater to "paid" replacements. Or they may pay the owner some compensation in case of warranty claim and deny service to those out of warranty. In this case they will suffer from a lot of user base anguish and resentment. They may be branded "traitors" or "deserters" and their other retail business may take a big hit too (Akai suffered similarly in early 2000's.).

Note that this worry does not mean that you could go with LCD (LED) and count yourself safe. The LCD panel can also conk off and will require replacement. The difference would be that a replacement would be available but you will still pay as much as 80% of the TV cost. In this case, you would prefer buying a new TV. So how good or bad you are wrt to a plasma or LCD (LED) if there is a total panel failure? My take is that there is no difference.

I am not worried myself and now there is no point worrying also. When I was looking for TV, I was looking at these models mainly: Pana 50ST50, Pana 50GT50, Sony 46HX850, Samsung 46E7500, LG 47LM7600 and one or two more. The final equation was between HX850 and ST50. I considered that Sony 46 HX850 matched 50ST50 but there were significant advantages with ST50:

- wonderful PQ and definitely a notch above HX850
- 4" larger
- 15K cheaper
- free BDP (in lieu of HTiB) that could be made region free

On the downside, I have to continuously worry about image retention. But I consider this a small price to pay. What would I do today? If I had the above deal all over again, I will still go for plasma. I do not regret my purchase at all. My friend in San Ramon, CA, USA has had a Pioneer Kuro since 2006-7. He has not faced any issue till date. I hope the same in my case. But there are at least 3 or 4 FMs here who have faced issues with plasma. I hesitate to advice you. I will say "wait and watch". Wait for 2013 lineup and take a judgment call.
 
I was waiting for "mouth watering" deals for nearly 3 years - well take one year out as during that time I was not actively looking. :)

As regards to other observations:

- 2013 models will not be available till May at the very least
- Panasonic may exit from plasma line altogether: Panasonic considering an end to plasma TV production - The Japan Daily Press

So my advice will be, if there is no pressing need, one should wait.

I don't believe this. Why are they releasing new models if they plan to exit from Plasma Business. They are supposed to release 2013 models in Jan 1st week according to the following link. I don't expect them to make LCD/LED tvs, compete with Samsung and make money, when they can't do that in Plasma TV business.

VIERA | Plasma&LCD TV | Panasonic Global
 
I don't believe this. Why are they releasing new models if they plan to exit from Plasma Business. They are supposed to release 2013 models in Jan 1st week according to the following link. I don't expect them to make LCD/LED tvs, compete with Samsung and make money, when they can't do that in Plasma TV business.

VIERA | Plasma&LCD TV | Panasonic Global
Actually the global site does not say anything - Panasonic may continue with the LCD/LED TVs but cut down on (if not exit) the plasma lineup. My link on the news item about Panasonic exiting plasma business is also a rumour/speculation. But some hard (and financially) compelling facts cannot be ignored:

- Panasonic, Samsung and LG are the only companies in the plasma range
- Out of the above, LG has a very limited plasma range
- Samsung (and even Panasonic) bets more on LCD/LED TVs
- less than 1 in a 100 people buy plasma model, out of whatever preception, true or false
- Panasonic is loosing billions on the plasma TV lineup; does it make sense to remain in a bad business?

The exit may or may not happen in 2013 - but the writing on the wall is clear "The Chamber of Secrets has been opened".
 
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Actually the global site does not say anything - Panasonic may continue with the LCD/LED TVs but cut down on (if not exit) the plasma lineup. My link on the news item about Panasonic exiting plasma business is also a rumour/speculation. But some hard (and financially) compelling facts cannot be ignored:

Panasonic is announcing the 2013 line up on Jan 7th @CES. That means they keep investing in the Plasma at least for now.

- Panasonic, Samsung and LG are the only companies in the plasma range
- Out of the above, LG has a very limited plasma range
- Samsung (and even Panasonic) bets more on LCD/LED TVs
- less than 1 in a 100 people buy plasma model, out of whatever preception, true or false
- Panasonic is loosing billions on the plasma TV lineup; does it make sense to remain in a bad business?

I agree with you on the above aspects. But, I believe that it is only the half the truth.
  • Panasonic lost huge amounts of money even in their LCD/LED TV business not just Plasma TV business.
  • Sony and Sharp (other Japanese TV makers) which are in LCD/LED TV business are doing no better and lost billions of dollars in the past few years.
  • None of these Japanese companies are able to compete with Korean TV makers (Samsung and LG) in the LCD/LED market. It is not easy for Panasonic to their Plasma business and compete and survive with Samsung and LG in LCD/LED market.
  • Panasonic lost approx $10 billion by writing off their solar-power, battery and mobile handset businesses recently. Can they afford to do the same by writing off their Plasma business, and loose all the money they invested in Plasma technology and factories? I don't know.

It is true that there are many rumors about Panasonic closing their Plasma business. It may or may not happen. If people ask for my advise for TV, I would recommend them to ignore these rumors and go for Plasma. By the time, they look for their next TV, the OLEDs may become mainstream.
 
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