Ripping in FLAC using EAC

[square_wave]

SW, is this because it was ripped as FLAC or because it was played as FLAC /
What i mean is if we convert the ripped Flac to Wave, does it sound better ?

One group was ripped as wav. The other group was ripped as flac. Played back as flac or wav depending upon what it is, right ?? am I missing something here ?

We tried this on multiple pcs. With db poweramp as well as EAC. On different players like JRiver, Dual pc playback using J Play etc.. Always the wav sound just a bit better. Not sure why. You wont miss the wav file if you have not compared it though If you have not done this comparison I am sure you will never even think about it....

I am sure the difference is due to something elsewhere other than the data...

 

[arj]

One group was ripped as wav. The other group was ripped as flac. Played back as flac or wav depending upon what it is, right ?? am I missing something here ?

What i meant was if the same file was payed as a Flac and then after conversion to Wav does it sound different ?

If there is a difference between the two, it either has to do due to the compression being done into a Flac while ripping. OR due to the decompression process at the Audio player when converting from Flac .

 

[square_wave]

What i meant was if the same file was payed as a Flac and then after conversion to Wav does it sound different ?
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I never did this. A cd was converted to wav as well as flac. Then, both were played back. For all practical purposes, this is what we do when we move from disc playback to file playback.

I don't mess with the flac which I download from hd tracks etc...

 

[gobble]

Ummm I tried the flac versus WAV comparison yesterday, and damn! I think I hear a difference too!

With flac the sound loses a bit of openness. The WAV has a hint of sparkle and shimmer in the top end and the sound flows in a more relaxed context. I tried some songs from an EVA Cassidy album that I realized were not converted into flac and I wanted to tag the tracks. I tested with flac -3 settings and it wasn't too hard to tell the difference. With flac -1 encoded file I really had to strain to discern a difference between the two but it was there - the same difference but to a lesser degree. Encoding (or rather the process of decoding) appears to throw a bit of mud(diness) into the mix. This is a real good candidate for ABX blind testing.

I am still tempted to keep my default flac -1 settings as the resulting file size is less than half and I can tag the files (but I will really have to reconsider if I need tagging) With the WAV file size, I will have to abandon doing Wifi Xfers from my desktop to Music PC and consider copying physically via thumb drive.

G0bble

 

[IndianEars]

Google, I concur with yr findings..

Now can you please try this 1 more experiment:

Play the Same .wav file, :

a. Stored on the same HDD as the Operating System

b. On an external USB connected HDD

To me option A sounds every so slightly better.... not quite as much difference between .wav & .flac

 

[paramesh]

Hi All,
When I am trying to rip audio cd with EAC in WAV format ,I am not getting title name(song name). can any one suggest where to change ? I follow all instruction what mention here. when I try same CD with foobar I can able to get the song name.

Thanks in advance.

 

[dheerajin]

internet should be on..when ripping CD..IMO...it will try to get the database..and you will get all the information..

Hi All,
When I am trying to rip audio cd with EAC in WAV format ,I am not getting title name(song name). can any one suggest where to change ? I follow all instruction what mention here. when I try same CD with foobar I can able to get the song name.

Thanks in advance.

 

[paramesh]

internet should be on..when ripping CD..IMO...it will try to get the database..and you will get all the information..

you meant to say freedb right ? internet is on even though also same.

 

[jsmithe]

you meant to say freedb right ? internet is on even though also same.

What happens when you go Database, Get CD Information From and then select the freedb entry from the drop-down? Do you notice a connection attempt out and/or do you get a freedb result window asking you to select a CD (this happens when there are multiple matches in freedb)?

Do all CD's not show freedb track information using the above steps or is it just the one? If all, then there probably is something wrong with your connection to freedb. If it's just the one CD it's quite likely that there is a metadata mismatch between freedb and that CD.

 

[paramesh]

What happens when you go Database, Get CD Information From and then select the freedb entry from the drop-down? Do you notice a connection attempt out and/or do you get a freedb result window asking you to select a CD (this happens when there are multiple matches in freedb)?

Do all CD's not show freedb track information using the above steps or is it just the one? If all, then there probably is something wrong with your connection to freedb. If it's just the one CD it's quite likely that there is a metadata mismatch between freedb and that CD.

Error - CD not found in database is coming .

 

[jsmithe]

Error - CD not found in database is coming .

Is the CD one that was custom burnt or is it an original commercial pressing? If the former, I doubt the metadata signatures will match freedb which would explain the error you are getting.

Even with commercial pressed CD's it is quite possible that the metadata signature is not found in freedb. Try with another couple of CD's to see if all of them are not found in freedb. If you post the info' about the commercial CD you are trying with maybe one of us who has the same CD could check to see if it's only you or if in fact freedb does not have the information.

 

[paramesh]

Is the CD one that was custom burnt or is it an original commercial pressing? If the former, I doubt the metadata signatures will match freedb which would explain the error you are getting.

Even with commercial pressed CD's it is quite possible that the metadata signature is not found in freedb. Try with another couple of CD's to see if all of them are not found in freedb. If you post the info' about the commercial CD you are trying with maybe one of us who has the same CD could check to see if it's only you or if in fact freedb does not have the information.

I bought that audio cd from site,its original audio cd. I dont know how to get the metadata signature. its telugu manam audio cd.

 

[paramesh]

Is the CD one that was custom burnt or is it an original commercial pressing? If the former, I doubt the metadata signatures will match freedb which would explain the error you are getting.

Even with commercial pressed CD's it is quite possible that the metadata signature is not found in freedb. Try with another couple of CD's to see if all of them are not found in freedb. If you post the info' about the commercial CD you are trying with maybe one of us who has the same CD could check to see if it's only you or if in fact freedb does not have the information.

Thanks for help, I am getting for some other CDs.