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Rumors of a vinyl factory in Mumbai?
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dr_Sunil_Das
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Few reasons due to which I feel it will be a while before which you can see lot more titles/albums in Vinyl:-
1.Industrial groups will come forward only when they are sure that they will get a good market. Given today's scenario of Vinyl demand, there is no doubt that it will catch up in a big way in India but till then availability of newer titles/albums will be pretty much dependent on the few existing players in market. Also the catalyst to promote Vinyl in a big way is missing as the quality of pressing and price is not what it should be promote it in a big way.
2. Further the availability of Vinyls of old hindi movies or Ghazals in flea market has been a big hurdle for RPG and others to get run away success by introducing the Vinyls like "Bombay to Goa" etc as the prices at which you can get them in from shops in kolkata are still way less than the mrp of the new one. Also the pressing quality was a big let down from the old Vinyl that is I have.
3. Regional musical numbers which is a part of us is also missing from the offerings. These will also have a big say in the final sales figures of companies.
Dr. Sunil.
1.Industrial groups will come forward only when they are sure that they will get a good market. Given today's scenario of Vinyl demand, there is no doubt that it will catch up in a big way in India but till then availability of newer titles/albums will be pretty much dependent on the few existing players in market. Also the catalyst to promote Vinyl in a big way is missing as the quality of pressing and price is not what it should be promote it in a big way.
2. Further the availability of Vinyls of old hindi movies or Ghazals in flea market has been a big hurdle for RPG and others to get run away success by introducing the Vinyls like "Bombay to Goa" etc as the prices at which you can get them in from shops in kolkata are still way less than the mrp of the new one. Also the pressing quality was a big let down from the old Vinyl that is I have.
3. Regional musical numbers which is a part of us is also missing from the offerings. These will also have a big say in the final sales figures of companies.
Dr. Sunil.
Slightly off topic but had to ask this nevertheless, since most of you guys have great information...
I was wondering if there are still any audio cassette plants in India especially Bangalore or South India that still make professional audio cassettes (pro-dubbed)? I would be really grateful to the person who can help me with any sort of information.
I was wondering if there are still any audio cassette plants in India especially Bangalore or South India that still make professional audio cassettes (pro-dubbed)? I would be really grateful to the person who can help me with any sort of information.
vmscbe1974
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Dear Sandesh
Why dont you try with Echo recording and AVM Studios Bharat Film Distribution at Chennai they were into record pressings till early 1990s and also check with pyramid international as they released Gentleman and Kizlakku semaiyile of A R Rehman tamil records and also Kapco international as in most records of Echo it was mentioned as manufactured by Kapco international. Lahari cassettes at bangalore could be a source . Malaysia could still have a source since they were the ones issuing duplicate records of HMV those days.
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Srinivas
Why dont you try with Echo recording and AVM Studios Bharat Film Distribution at Chennai they were into record pressings till early 1990s and also check with pyramid international as they released Gentleman and Kizlakku semaiyile of A R Rehman tamil records and also Kapco international as in most records of Echo it was mentioned as manufactured by Kapco international. Lahari cassettes at bangalore could be a source . Malaysia could still have a source since they were the ones issuing duplicate records of HMV those days.
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Srinivas
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Thanks for the heads up Srinivas. By any chance would you know any current company that still manafactures pre-recorded audio cassettes/tapes? I am loooking for a tape factory in India for a project of mine!
Advait.one
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Although I'm uncertain if any plants are still active, I can tell you about the Sony releases. I suppose you are referring to Sony Music's 180g re-issues from the 2010's of Soundtracks like Kal Ho Naa Ho, Guru, Rang De Basanti etc. and Studio Albums such as Kailasa and Sufiaana. As far as they are concerned, you are right, they don't have a mention of country of manufacture anywhere on the sleeve or the label, but if you notice carefully on a seal packed copy, there shall be a small sticker on the plastic film that says it has been made in Austria. At least the ones that I own (KHNH, RDB, Kailasa) all did.
Talking about the pressing plants, the three biggest of them all, The Gramophone Company of India, Polydor of India and CBS Gramophone and Tapes are long time gone. Not sure if any lesser known plants made it through all these years, but it's very unlikely. After the introduction of the cassette and ultimately the CD, the vinyl format in India fell off even harder than it did in the rest of the world and the vinyl revival that the world is experiencing right now still remains highly unpopular in India. The Himachal based plant that has been mentioned in some of the above replies may be true, but it is most probably just an effort by some person who is a die hard lover of the format. Besides that, running a vinyl pressing plant in India (not even a major city) is the most uneconomical thing I can think of.
Talking about the pressing plants, the three biggest of them all, The Gramophone Company of India, Polydor of India and CBS Gramophone and Tapes are long time gone. Not sure if any lesser known plants made it through all these years, but it's very unlikely. After the introduction of the cassette and ultimately the CD, the vinyl format in India fell off even harder than it did in the rest of the world and the vinyl revival that the world is experiencing right now still remains highly unpopular in India. The Himachal based plant that has been mentioned in some of the above replies may be true, but it is most probably just an effort by some person who is a die hard lover of the format. Besides that, running a vinyl pressing plant in India (not even a major city) is the most uneconomical thing I can think of.
Amarrass
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VINYL REVIVAL in INDIA! LAUNCH PARTY on 28 APRIL in NEW DELHI
Amarrass Records brings back vinyl record production to India!
We are thrilled to announce the setup of our new workshop in Gurgaon, where we are in the process of producing our first set of records. Three albums, all individually hand-cut at our facility, will be released at the launch party on 28th April 2017 at Lodi-The Garden Restaurant, New Delhi. The first batch of LPs feature artists on the label - Painted Caves, Lakha Khan and Barmer Boys, who also perform at the launch party on the 28th.
Details here: SHOP - Label - Amarrass Records
Amarrass Records brings back vinyl record production to India!
We are thrilled to announce the setup of our new workshop in Gurgaon, where we are in the process of producing our first set of records. Three albums, all individually hand-cut at our facility, will be released at the launch party on 28th April 2017 at Lodi-The Garden Restaurant, New Delhi. The first batch of LPs feature artists on the label - Painted Caves, Lakha Khan and Barmer Boys, who also perform at the launch party on the 28th.
Details here: SHOP - Label - Amarrass Records
Fantastic
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Check out this link.Lakha Khan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldqFP5iNr5Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldqFP5iNr5Y
nkalambara
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Her Master's Voice
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Opening a vinyl pressing plant will definitely run into crores and it will be very difficult to locate one or more functioning presses. A new press costs a small fortune and as per my knowledge it is made only by one company in Germany
The cost of the Newbilt semiautomatic pressers are roughly USD90K. You could setup a fully functioning press with 2 machines operating at full capacity in under 2 crores. Given the demand for LPs right now and the supply issue, a well managed operation can recover investment and attain significant profitability in no time.
Money should not be a problem. But for good quality vinyl pressing we need good Recording engineers, Mastering Engineers and master Vinyl cutting engineer.Otherwise no point in recording digitally and making vinyls. Recording for Digital media and analogue media is a debatable issue in itself. Remember in golden age of Bollywood music few decades in the past we still had some very bad recordings. Who ever pressed good quality records may have almost retired. I may be wrong but I doubt if westerners know the flavour Indian audience likes. I read somewhere there were special record pressing for Japanese market. (Or Japanese pressed themselves) I had couple of Indian test pressing with plain Lable and a christian record cutters name on it. It sounded good. Vinyl cutting is a skill job.
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TD150
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According to the person who repairs R2R decks in Mumbai, the Famous Studios (Mumbai) still has an analogue recording facility.
Hope if it's true, they do some analogue recordings for the vinyl LP format.
Hope if it's true, they do some analogue recordings for the vinyl LP format.
That is a good news. But equipment they use should be in top notch condition. I am not sure but R2R tapes fq. response is limited. Strictly personal view is a high resolution (better than Red book audio CD) is perfectly ok. So much flexible and control. for example low bass cut and making mono in digital domain and then to send directly to cutting. It takes out little bit of electronics requirements at vinyl cutting process I guess.
regards.
regards.
My earlier comment on the setup cost was not aimed at producing LP's for the Indian market exclusively. While that can also be one part of the operation, it may not be enough to sustain the entire operation.
The global demand for LP's has been consistently increasing and LP sales are expected to topple 1B USD this year. Given the limited number of presses in the US and Europe, to fulfill that demand, there may be an opportunity for smaller players to enter the market now since new presses are being built. Of course there are challenges with setting up an operation in India since raw materials needed may not be locally available etc.
The global demand for LP's has been consistently increasing and LP sales are expected to topple 1B USD this year. Given the limited number of presses in the US and Europe, to fulfill that demand, there may be an opportunity for smaller players to enter the market now since new presses are being built. Of course there are challenges with setting up an operation in India since raw materials needed may not be locally available etc.
Yes exporting is good idea. occasionally there are lots of interesting news like Analogue Studios, Vinyl Plants still existing, Old Gramophone Co. Employees, Engineers, Master Tapes still existing in India. But no evidence. Don't know why it should be a secret. Time is right to bring out master tapes, restart the vinyl plants. Lets hope for the best. 
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Here is the test record label. Little difficult to read but it says "Clean Score 8 or less" "OK" by Mr. Gonsalves.
Record is "Super Disco Party"
(No I am not embarrassed by Disco Pop music :lol:. It has memories attached.) This album has Boney M, Gilla, Eruption Tracks. During Teen years I used to listen "I Can't Stand the rain". Love the voice of Precious Wilson. I like Black people making music.
I also had few other test pressings. But I think I sold them.
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Here is the test record label. Little difficult to read but it says "Clean Score 8 or less" "OK" by Mr. Gonsalves.
Record is "Super Disco Party"
(No I am not embarrassed by Disco Pop music :lol:. It has memories attached.) This album has Boney M, Gilla, Eruption Tracks. During Teen years I used to listen "I Can't Stand the rain". Love the voice of Precious Wilson. I like Black people making music. I also had few other test pressings. But I think I sold them.
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reubensm
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Hey, I may have another white label press of this same record. Let me check if I can find signatures on it
I recollect buying a set of white label LPs, all Polydor releases, including this one, from a gentleman in Mumbai who said his father was formerly the General Manager of Polydor, India. He used to bring home these white-label new releases.
I recollect buying a set of white label LPs, all Polydor releases, including this one, from a gentleman in Mumbai who said his father was formerly the General Manager of Polydor, India. He used to bring home these white-label new releases.
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Yes please do share information about label.
I may be wrong but employees used to get "Not for Sale" stamped copies. I guess these are test pressings as otherwise there would not be any need to sign it and write 'clean score 8 or less'. I got this from a fellow Mr. Brahmandkar in Dadar. This was about 8/9 years ago.
Regards.
I may be wrong but employees used to get "Not for Sale" stamped copies. I guess these are test pressings as otherwise there would not be any need to sign it and write 'clean score 8 or less'. I got this from a fellow Mr. Brahmandkar in Dadar. This was about 8/9 years ago.
Regards.
reubensm
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Here are 2 'white-label' samples from quite a few that I have. I wonder what the serial number on the inner sleeve, refers to. Also notice the label on the second record, they stuck on 'A' by mistake and manually corrected it to 'B'
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