Sony Bravia HX950

Thanks for the info.... have been waiting for this egarly. :)

Was speaking to sales manager in Sony world Aundh, Pune. He mentioned possibility of its launch on or before Diwali.

Speculative pricing around 2.6 L for 55' set....

We shall see in near future...

Regards,

Amit
 
Most unfortulately because of bad blood we lost a lot of posts here.

May I humbly request all members not to post inflamatory posts not in just this thread but everywhere else.
 
oh man... if HX850 is such a wonderful TV, HX950 PQ shall be out of the world... only dampener is going to be the price ... no way will get to own one... at best may be a demo at the neighbourhood SONY store..
 
Most unfortulately because of bad blood we lost a lot of posts here.

May I humbly request all members not to post inflamatory posts not in just this thread but everywhere else.

I agree with you 100%. In fact I went through multiple websites to collect details on HX950 and it's comparisons with other reference models and when I made a post, the entire thread was removed. :o The problem is - Even if two referencee models are similar on performane, most of the people make sweeping statements that their favourite model is superior to the other.
Guys- I am missing some fruitful discussions on HX950. Let's not make any sweeping statements from now on.
 
The HX950 will be marginally costly than current HX929. Bringing from abroad is an option but the size may be an issue. It will be the typical case of "neighbour's envy, owner's pride".
 
I agree with you 100%. In fact I went through multiple websites to collect details on HX950 and it's comparisons with other reference models and when I made a post, the entire thread was removed. :o The problem is - Even if two referencee models are similar on performane, most of the people make sweeping statements that their favourite model is superior to the other.
Guys- I am missing some fruitful discussions on HX950. Let's not make any sweeping statements from now on.
If possible, please do repost.
 
For those considering buying the HX950, I have some interesting news. Next year Sony will come out with a game changer TV for around the same price as the HX950. It could potentially be the biggest success story for Sony since the WEGA days.

And no I'm not talking about OLED or an improved LCD TV with local dimming

Performance wise it will match OLED and surpass Plasma and LCD by quite a good margin.

Perfect blacks, 0.0000xxxxxx cd/m2. Brightness -400cd/m2. Power consumption 70W for 55 inch model ;)
 
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For those considering buying the HX950, I have some interesting news. Next year Sony will come out with a game changer TV for around the same price as the HX950. It could potentially be the biggest success story for Sony since the WEGA days.

And no I'm not talking about OLED or an improved LCD TV with local dimming

Performance wise it will match OLED and surpass Plasma and LCD by quite a good margin.

Perfect blacks, 0.0000xxxxxx cd/m2. Brightness -400cd/m2. Power consumption 70W for 55 inch model ;)

Are you taklin about crystal led? afaik sony were supposed to release it this year i wont be suprised if they abandon the technoligy midway
 
If possible, please do repost.

Thanks just4kix. Here are some of the details on HX950 and comparison details on how it fared against other reference models. The intent behind this comparison is to let a buyer know what works best for him. Again - these details are collected from various review websites, forums, etc. I can assure that I filtered out some of the unwanted details (from various forums). For example, some people found to pull down HX950 with no respect and some others used adjectives to describe HX950 as the model to dethrone others. With all respect, I request forum members not to pick up fights on this.

1. Black levels/contrast ratio of HX950
- A true black level achieved on a full black/dark screen. None of the Plasmas or any LED (except for Elite) can produce that.
- A medium sized black image (like a true black coat/suite being worn by an actor) in a movie can look more inkier. Kuro and Elite are slighly better on this ground, VT50 is slightly behind HX950.
- A darker scene with less contrast things on the image. HX950 is slightly better than VT50 where as Kuro and Elite are slightly better.
- A darker scene with high contrast images, VT50/Kuro/Elite are better as they are able to sustain the same black level irrespective of the scenes.
- Though HX950 can produce the deepest black levels, it can also contribute to a slight disadvantage (only slight) in showing accurate shadow details. Kuro and VT50 are better. A true dark shadow (which is not actually a complete black) can still be painted as black (black crush). Both Kuro and Vt50 doesn't do that.

2. Color Depth of HX950:
- HX950 produces the best among any of the LED (even better than Elite).
- Almost on par with VT50/Kuro, but VT50 looks more natural (even better than Kuro)
- Darker shade colours in HX950 is second only to Kuro/VT50. Even better than Elite.

3. Motion handling of HX950:
- Best among the LEDs.
- In real world, HX950 is almost at the level of VT50/Kuro though some stressful motion tests (which are not real world) might make both VT50/kuro superior. Here, there is nothing specific to complain about HX950 as LED/LCDs do always have a slight disadvantage (when compared to plasmas) with respect to pixel response time.

4. Miscelleanous:
- When used as computer or gaming consoles, VT50/Kuro no match for HX950.
- None of the poblems like IR, buzzing sound, bright room viewing, power consumption etc when compared to VT50/kuro. Again, no offence to Plasma, it is just that we need to take care of Plasmas little bit where as HX950 can be free of that.
- Gamers would prefer HX950 for the fear of the above Plasma disadvantages.
- Off-axis view performance in HX950 doesn't meet the standards set by Kuro/VT50. No idea how it performs against Elite though.

Conclusion: Though this may not be a complete list, I have tried to put some of the important points that can be useful for a buyer to decide on HX950.
HX950 has shown the Plasmas on how it can challenge them when no other LEDs can even think of doing it. In fact HX950 wins (marginally) in some cases and loses (again marginally) in other cases to the best plasmas on the PQ. So on a net result, almost all top end referene models (HX950, VT50, Elite) are on even grounds. There is no clear winner here. The only thing that will decide is what looks/works best for an individual. We all need to appreciate HX950 with the way it could close or resolve some of the disadvanatges an LED used to have in comparison to Plasmas.

ONe can argue that why some one needs to pay a huge amount for HX950 when it's PQ is on par with the less expensive VT50/ (or even ST50) . A right question. Some will say that there is no need to pay such a huge amount - AT the same time, the other could also say that he/she is ready to pay just to avoid some of the problems (IR, bright room, etc) of Plasmas. Again - this is strictly an individual preference.
 
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May I know from where you collected all that info ? There is only 1 review of HX950 so far and the site isn't the most accurate when it comes to figures. So the above seems like HX925 vs VT50 to me and not HX950 vs VT50. Or maybe speculative comparison of HX950 and VT50.

So I suggest you wait for expert/professional reviews.
 
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May I know from where you collected all that info ? There is only 1 review of HX950 so far and the site isn't the most accurate when it comes to figures. So the above seems like HX925 vs VT50 to me and not HX950 vs VT50. Or maybe speculative comparison of HX950 and VT50.

So I suggest you wait for expert/professional reviews.

I agree with you - we need to wait for the expert professional reviews for getting the most accurate details. I have put a caveat in my earlier post saying that it only based on the details posted in various websites and not fully based on the reputed expert opinion. So there will be some facts in that and some will be always speculative. I also agree that I am not an expert, but only tried to collect some details which I felt it would be accurate to some extent. For example, few people have described the blooming issue in HX950 and that is a fact, but the speculations are on to what extent that impact is. Probably, a resputed reviewer can give more accurate details.
I looked at various other forums like avforums, highdefjunkies, etc.. Also if you look at all these forums, many have commented that there is no any significant difference between HX950 and HX929. My opinion is that the details present in various websites may not be all speculative except for some crazy fan clashes :lol:
Yes - we need to wait until big experts share their results. What I have posted is just a starter and all are not based on mere speculation. :)
 
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Blooming was a major issue with the HX929 and according to Chad B ( top US ISF calibrator) he felt that the issue has been rectified to acceptable levels in the HX950. Also the first and only review of HX950 indicates that HX929 and HX950 are not the same sets and there is a huge difference in contrast as well as color performance.

Which is why I said wait for professional reviews as for now all the comparisons are mostly with HX929 and not HX950.
 
Thanks just4kix. Here are some of the details on HX950 and comparison details on how it fared against other reference models. The intent behind this comparison is to let a buyer know what works best for him. Again - these details are collected from various review websites, forums, etc. I can assure that I filtered out some of the unwanted details (from various forums). For example, some people found to pull down HX950 with no respect and some others used adjectives to describe HX950 as the model to dethrone others. With all respect, I request forum members not to pick up fights on this.

1. Black levels/contrast ratio of HX950
- A true black level achieved on a full black/dark screen. None of the Plasmas or any LED (except for Elite) can produce that.
- A medium sized black image (like a true black coat/suite being worn by an actor) in a movie can look more inkier. Kuro and Elite are slighly better on this ground, VT50 is slightly behind HX950.
- A darker scene with less contrast things on the image. HX950 is slightly better than VT50 where as Kuro and Elite are slightly better.
- A darker scene with high contrast images, VT50/Kuro/Elite are better as they are able to sustain the same black level irrespective of the scenes.
- Though HX950 can produce the deepest black levels, it can also contribute to a slight disadvantage (only slight) in showing accurate shadow details. Kuro and VT50 are better. A true dark shadow (which is not actually a complete black) can still be painted as black (black crush). Both Kuro and Vt50 doesn't do that.

2. Color Depth of HX950:
- HX950 produces the best among any of the LED (even better than Elite).
- Almost on par with VT50/Kuro, but VT50 looks more natural (even better than Kuro)
- Darker shade colours in HX950 is second only to Kuro/VT50. Even better than Elite.

3. Motion handling of HX950:
- Best among the LEDs.
- In real world, HX950 is almost at the level of VT50/Kuro though some stressful motion tests (which are not real world) might make both VT50/kuro superior. Here, there is nothing specific to complain about HX950 as LED/LCDs do always have a slight disadvantage (when compared to plasmas) with respect to pixel response time.

4. Miscelleanous:
- When used as computer or gaming consoles, VT50/Kuro no match for HX950.
- None of the poblems like IR, buzzing sound, bright room viewing, power consumption etc when compared to VT50/kuro. Again, no offence to Plasma, it is just that we need to take care of Plasmas little bit where as HX950 can be free of that.
- Gamers would prefer HX950 for the fear of the above Plasma disadvantages.
- Off-axis view performance in HX950 doesn't meet the standards set by Kuro/VT50. No idea how it performs against Elite though.

Conclusion: Though this may not be a complete list, I have tried to put some of the important points that can be useful for a buyer to decide on HX950.
HX950 has shown the Plasmas on how it can challenge them when no other LEDs can even think of doing it. In fact HX950 wins (marginally) in some cases and loses (again marginally) in other cases to the best plasmas on the PQ. So on a net result, almost all top end referene models (HX950, VT50, Elite) are on even grounds. There is no clear winner here. The only thing that will decide is what looks/works best for an individual. We all need to appreciate HX950 with the way it could close or resolve some of the disadvanatges an LED used to have in comparison to Plasmas.

ONe can argue that why some one needs to pay a huge amount for HX950 when it's PQ is on par with the less expensive VT50/ (or even ST50) . A right question. Some will say that there is no need to pay such a huge amount - AT the same time, the other could also say that he/she is ready to pay just to avoid some of the problems (IR, bright room, etc) of Plasmas. Again - this is strictly an individual preference.

Thanks Shanmune !!! Looks like a very balanced post and let us wait for some more reviews to come with actual measurements. Meanwhile, I came across this website.
Sony XBR55HX950 3D LED LCD HDTV- First Review | HD Guru

Keeping all these aside and on a lighter note : avmaxfan - you seem to be very passionate about HX950 :-) Various forums are having very encouraging words for HX950. Are you planning to buy it ? And one confusion I generally have with respect to the model numbers from Sony. I guess Sony gives different numbers to the same model belong to different regions. Does HX950 also have a different number for India ?
 
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Looks like Sony hasn't fixed the problems from HX925 on the successor. It is will interesting to demo HX850, HX950 and VT50 side by side.

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That hdguru review is quite 'interesting'. Firstly he could not take a single photo of a tv he supposedly reviewed and also the fact that he bashed HX950 in a forum and claimed how plasma is much superior to any LCD. :rolleyes:

@rangan

Yes I am but now I'm not entirely sure after reading about crystal led sony tv coming next year as well as sony oled. I'll wait till CES and decide


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Just a pic from avsforums to show the blacks on the HX950. Tough to distinguish the bezel from the screen ;). Also note this is with the backlight set to 3 points below MAXIMUM.

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Also 3 videos of HX950 in action. Check out the contrast. :ohyeah:

Sony XBR 950 Local Dimming Stress Test (Sin City) - YouTube

XBR HX950 Halo Effect - YouTube

Sony XBR 950 - WOW Test Disc Expert Settings Walkthrough - YouTube
 
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