What RCA Cables and Speaker Cables to import from Unites States.

[Thad E Ginathom]

This is a bit like the question of whether the light in the fridge really goes off when one shuts the door

Except, of course, that one can take the wire out of the terminal and look at it. Hopefully it has not oxidised too much where the actual screw-pressure contact was.

On the whole though, you're probably right about tinning, and shaping the end to give max content is probably a good idea too. Try flattening the twist before tinning?

Still, though, the best idea I've heard so far is ultrasonic welding.

 

[keith_correa]

All said and done, IMO, all this [tinning, flattening, bare wire, banana jacks, spades, soldering, ultrasonic welding] amounts to going anal and I think the variations are hardly audible.

 

[Thad E Ginathom]

Out of all the things just mentioned, oxidation is probably the one that might be audible, and that can happen to just about any kind of connector (unless gold-plated, I suppose) and some people swear as much by occasional disconnecting and reconnecting, to disturb that, as others do by their favourite cable or termination types. It does seem like a sensible sort of theory.

Err... no, I can't confirm/deny from experience

 

[keith_correa]

I've put in cables that were oxidized and then have cleaned them and listened. No difference. Like I said. Lead ears!

 

[AmitKumar]

Hope these Canare speaker cables will work fine in the following simple way:

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[keith_correa]

Hope these Canare speaker cables will work fine in the following simple way:

Of course it will.

 

[keith_correa]

Isn't Biren the dealer for Canare too? Maybe his prices are good.

 

[AmitKumar]

Isn't Biren the dealer for Canare too? Maybe his prices are good.

Let me check, i think he deals with beldon cables.

 

[Thad E Ginathom]

Hope these Canare speaker cables will work fine in the following simple way:

Absolutely fine.

 

[reubensm]

What I have learnt is that the world of cables is a very subjective world. I tied different co-axes like microphone cables, cable TV cables, custom made cables with thick copper cores, etc and finally settled for straightforward phthon interconnects that I bought on a visit to Houston.

For speaker cabling, I found the best results with Finolex, since I run longer wires, these cables offered negligible or no loss of bass response.

check this out: http://www.hifivision.com/speakers/44930-speaker-cables-i-am-believer-now.html

 

[AmitKumar]

What I have learnt is that the world of cables is a very subjective world. I tied different co-axes like microphone cables, cable TV cables, custom made cables with thick copper cores, etc and finally settled for straightforward phthon interconnects that I bought on a visit to Houston.

For speaker cabling, I found the best results with Finolex, since I run longer wires, these cables offered negligible or no loss of bass response.

check this out: http://www.hifivision.com/speakers/44930-speaker-cables-i-am-believer-now.html

Hi Reuben,

i went through this thread earlier and infact i was thinking to go ahead with your way. but now somebody has agreed to carry the cables for me from US. the one shortlisted will just cost me USD 2 per metre which is not at all high and the cable is famous one. Let us see how it goes.

 

[manniraj]

What I have learnt is that the world of cables is a very subjective world. I tied different co-axes like microphone cables, cable TV cables, custom made cables with thick copper cores, etc and finally settled for straightforward phthon interconnects that I bought on a visit to Houston.

For speaker cabling, I found the best results with Finolex, since I run longer wires, these cables offered negligible or no loss of bass response.

check this out: http://www.hifivision.com/speakers/44930-speaker-cables-i-am-believer-now.html

+1 to the above and even I have tried the same but not the Finolex branded one some local brand Maharaja. It did perform well and I am still keeping it but the only issue in my case is that this is a very thick cable which I am not be able to pass in my cabinet wiring and I have to invariably keep it out and my daughter plays with it saying they are snakes . Hence looking at other options as well. Yesterday I took my old QED speaker cables which were being used for surrounds and they perform good for my Zaph speakers.

 

[Thad E Ginathom]

I should have guessed. Those helpful fellows at Blue Jeans Cables* have done some experiments and put together an extremely helpful article on hum rejection in unbalanced cables.

The basic answer, for interconnects, is yes to shielded coax, but they compared different shield configurations. The table of results speaks for itself ---although the choice, for each person, might depend on whether or not you have a cell tower on your neighbour's roof!

They also threw in a multi-core cable, normally used for balanced connectivity, and it performed badly.



*I really must buy something off them one of these days! :lol:

 

[GeorgeO]

DH Labs cables are also a good option-they can be bought in bulk for diy use. Ive been using them for many years.

 

[AmitKumar]

I should have guessed. Those helpful fellows at Blue Jeans Cables* have done some experiments and put together an extremely helpful article on hum rejection in unbalanced cables.

The basic answer, for interconnects, is yes to shielded coax, but they compared different shield configurations. The table of results speaks for itself ---although the choice, for each person, might depend on whether or not you have a cell tower on your neighbour's roof!

They also threw in a multi-core cable, normally used for balanced connectivity, and it performed badly.



*I really must buy something off them one of these days! :lol:

Hello,

It is very nice article, thanks a lot for posting this. Not sure if BJC LC-1 is available in bulk for DIY use.

I came across a good article on DIY Interconnects, thought to paste the link here. not sure though if it is the correct thread for the same.

How to Solder: An Illustrated DIY Guide to Making Your Own Cables - Home Theater Forum and Systems - HomeTheaterShack.com

REgards.

 

[keith_correa]

<snip>*I really must buy something off them one of these days! :lol:

Just remember that they all have just one thing in mind. Your money!!!

 

[keith_correa]

<snip>Those helpful fellows at Blue Jeans Cables* have done some experiments and put together an extremely helpful article on hum rejection in unbalanced cables.

For the test that they conducted they say:

We put together twenty-foot interconnects in each of these seven cables.

20 feet? I wonder why? Did they want the interconnects to act as antennae?
If they were to be maybe 3 feet - would the hash be so insignificant so as to not matter? I wonder.

 

[Thad E Ginathom]

Did they want the interconnects to act as antennae?

Yes! I think they did! Not many interconnects, in real life, are going to fastened to a high-current-carrying mains lead, either.

Perhaps some of these experiments have to be taken to a bit of an extreme to get unequivocal results from them. But hey, who loves theoretical extremes anyway? Audiophiles! :lol: And, in all seriousness, we can all look at them and say, well, if it can stand that, it can stand my 18 inches . Sometimes theoretical advantages make us feel comfortable, and I don't mind that, as long as the theory comes from an engineer, not a marketing man.

I was doing a bit of cable browsing, around the pro/manufacturer sites yesterday. IIRC, another snippet I noticed was a recommendation that unbalanced interconnects should not exceed 15ft. (I really should have taken a note/link; sorry). Again, not many of us have components that far apart. But there are always exceptions. Probably not many need even speaker cables that long, as the centre rack remains favoured by most --- but there must be a few who have the rack by the listening chair, I remember that I did, when none of the gear had remotes.

 

[Thad E Ginathom]

I came across a good article on DIY Interconnects, thought to paste the link here. not sure though if it is the correct thread for the same.

How to Solder: An Illustrated DIY Guide to Making Your Own Cables - Home Theater Forum and Systems - HomeTheaterShack.com

Thanks. I have some home-made leads, and the soldering is awful . Always looking for hints --- although, as fellow FMs keep telling me, it's practice that makes perfect!

EDIT: Wow, that article covers everything. Bookmarked for later consumption. Thanks again.

The article opens

Most enthusiasts who frequent this and other home theater forums are no doubt familiar with the Canare do-it-yourself cables that use the companys proprietary crimp-on RCA connectors.

Curiously, I was also reading about Canare connectors, yesterday. It sems that, for digital applications, the Canare RCAP has no comparison! Sorry, the link is another Blue Jeans article, but hey, they are good! As they don't use this connector for analogue interconnects, I guess there is no advantage.

Anyway, crimping for DIY? One would have to have a lot of cables to make for it to be worthwhile buying the equipment!

 

[keith_correa]

<snip>Anyway, crimping for DIY? One would have to have a lot of cables to make for it to be worthwhile buying the equipment!

Crimpers are inexpensive. MX makes/sells them.