why this much of negative publicity about BOSE

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Hi guys..every where I am observing one thing that..nobody is giving advise to buy Bose or any website not giving reviews about Bose Home theatres.if they are not giving 1st rank we can understand but they are not even considering Bose speakers.This is surprising me most.Please friends giving the technical explanation about these.I am new to these things so want to know about this.
 
Please friends giving the technical explanation...

Google is your friend.

Bose has a reputation of dragging folks who give bad reviews of their products to court.

RoC, I didn't know that Bose were litigious like that, but that might be because I never took much interest in the company anyway. Did I mention Monster cables in the same context? Oh no! I'm not brave enough!

Sometimes we should look at more than just the product when deciding where to shop.
 
If the price of Bose is x

In the budget of X/3 ie one third the budget far better sound can be achieved

Price to performance ratio is bad

In fact their Sub sat do not ever cover all frequeny bands ( please google
 
You can find answer below

"Go to a store that sells Bose along with other audio equipment and actually compare the sound of Bose speakers to others that are in your budget and decide for yourself!"
 
Store means a dealer is there to sell the Bose product or a direct store by bose, just keep your favorite track with you and you can compare it with bose and other brand setup then compare.Every audio dealer should have a demo room for audition.

This is what I mean.
 
Oh no....not again ! :D
Sorry, did not mean to trivialize the subject, but OP should just search the forum to get perfect idea why.
 
How about a Bose 201 Series speaker, reasonable size . Is it not a vfm product ?
should work with the entry level amp . Remember it was 12 k few years back .
 
Hi guys..every where I am observing one thing that..nobody is giving advise to buy Bose or any website not giving reviews about Bose Home theatres.if they are not giving 1st rank we can understand but they are not even considering Bose speakers.This is surprising me most.Please friends giving the technical explanation about these.I am new to these things so want to know about this.

I don't see the actual answer to your questions in all the posts so far.

The answer is not technical because what the industry has taught us to believe for "technical" information is frequency range, distortion, watts are all ambiguous measurements with no standard and that can be falsified.

Example frequency range doesn't tell you the fidelity to the original signal. Distortion doesn't either as its usually a test sine wave and not actual music signal and fidelity to it. Neither does watts since the info can be fudged by reporting at a single frequency, etc. All generally meaningless.

The actual answer comes in listening to bose. Music through a bose system sounds homogenized and accentuated electronically. It is not true to the sound of the original recording/instruments/voice and what is lost is detail. Bose is to music what a TV dinner is to well cooked meal.

So there is no technical answer based on the limited and false parameters that we are commonly exposed to for hi-fi specs.
 
ok , just checked . it is 14 K now. What do we get for 14k these days ! ?

https://boseindia.com/product/201-series-v-direct-reflecting-speaker-system/

I have heard both 201 and 301 recently, good soundstage, somewhat suppressed details. Attractive sound, but you will be able to tell that it is not 'true' sound, neither is it honest. I mean there is a feeling of artificial tonality to it, very likable for the casual music lover, but not at all for serious listening.
 
rsud, I love your TV-dinner analogy! It says more than measurements ever could :lol:


I'm not saying that they have never made a good product. From my point of view, entirely personal, and perhaps as much prejudice as anything else, I can say that I have never even thought of them as a hifi company, and, as I have never been interested in HT, have never really had reason to think about them at all.

Given that, which is no exaggeration, it is a measure of how penetrative their marketing is that I even much of an idea what they make! Like Apple, Cocacola, and a few others, that marketing is so good that they are household words even to those of us who have never and probably will never own what they sell.
 
Soundstage will be wider no wonder as there are speakers all over the places. But what about imaging?
Apart from that, you have already mentioned the flaws like not true sounding. Texture of sound is not true.
 
I don't see the actual answer to your questions in all the posts so far.

The answer is not technical because what the industry has taught us to believe for "technical" information is frequency range, distortion, watts are all ambiguous measurements with no standard and that can be falsified.

Example frequency range doesn't tell you the fidelity to the original signal. Distortion doesn't either as its usually a test sine wave and not actual music signal and fidelity to it. Neither does watts since the info can be fudged by reporting at a single frequency, etc. All generally meaningless.

The actual answer comes in listening to bose. Music through a bose system sounds homogenized and accentuated electronically. It is not true to the sound of the original recording/instruments/voice and what is lost is detail. Bose is to music what a TV dinner is to well cooked meal.

So there is no technical answer based on the limited and false parameters that we are commonly exposed to for hi-fi specs.

I fully agree with you.

Without entering into "grammer of audio", listening experience is more important. And that is more satisfying in Bose.

I was carried away by bose haters on many forums, but after actual listening and more importantly comaparing with others, I changed my views. My main system at present is a non Bose system, but now I have decided to go with Bose in future.

So it upto the purchaser to listen and decide.

By the way how many "Audio Grammer experts" have tested their own hearing ability or audiometry test?
 
By the way how many "Audio Grammer experts" have tested their own hearing ability or audiometry test?

How does that matters to you? People ask for opinions and we all contribute to that. As a Bose lover it is your opinion above and so is that of mine few posts earlier. You found it good and I found it crap ... now what is your exact point over here? !
 
listening experience is more important. And that is more satisfying in Bose.

I have never felt like doing anything but walking away from every Bose system I have ever seen. As you say, technical education was not necessary: it was the listening that counted.

I'm not a film or HT man. I never go to the cinema, I see a film on the TV, on average, once every year or so. Maybe the cinema experience is as artificial-sounding as some of the HT stuff I have heard? Probably, but hey, it is an utterly different experience from stereo listening to serious music.

But... I've just been talking about the importance and validity of preference, so, if the Bose experience is yours, fine.
rsud said:
The answer is not technical because what the industry has taught us to believe for "technical" information is frequency range, distortion, watts are all ambiguous measurements with no standard and that can be falsified.

Example frequency range doesn't tell you the fidelity to the original signal. Distortion doesn't either as its usually a test sine wave and not actual music signal and fidelity to it. Neither does watts since the info can be fudged by reporting at a single frequency, etc. All generally meaningless.
There's a huge difference between specifications and measurements. The former, in any hifi company, let alone Bose, have probably been carefully picked and presented by the marketing men and their graphic artists. The latter, if from a truly independent source might tell much more. Frequency range may say little to nothing about the sound, but a frequency response chart, showing that chunks of sound are almost missing, and others are emphasised, is going to say, at least, this is not high fidelity.
 
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