What RCA Cables and Speaker Cables to import from Unites States.

[manoj.p]

You should laugh IF they suggest something [CAT5 or something else] without trying it out first. Then it defies logic (if you can call it that). BUT, if they have tried it out and they FEEL that it makes a difference then there is no reason to laugh because in their mind (or in reality) it has worked and there's no telling otherwise unless you try it out yourself and it does not work for you. And even if it does not, there are too many variables that one can blame it on.

24AWG in my mind is too thick. And why do you need shielding?

Actually, 24AWG is thinner than 17 AWG. Bigger the no, thinner is the wire.

 

[keith_correa]

Actually, 24AWG is thinner than 17 AWG. Bigger the no, thinner is the wire.

Yes, 24AWG is thinner than 17AWG. Why only 17, it's thinner than 23AWG and lower numbered AWG.

 

[jls001]

Mogami 2549 with Neutrik ProFi Gold RCA connectors - brilliant and rocking. ProFi is not cheap but superior to Neutrik's regular gold plated RCAs. REAN is cheaper than regular Neutrik but construction is also clearly inferior.

I'm guessing the 2549 with Eichmann Bullets will be even better.

 

[jls001]

@Keith: I haven't found the time or energy to try out the CAT x IC. Speaker cable is fairly involved but IC seems simple enough.

 

[prem]

Mogami 2534 will have slightly softer transients and better vocals as compared to 2549 which is a good thing for digital recordings. Also 2534 will have a higher noise rejection which also might be a good thing for digital. If digital is going to be your main source the 2534 would be a better choice.

 

[prem]

Hi Amitkumar

I would suggest you write to Dr Bass on this forum and ask for his opinion on which connectors work best with Mogami. I think he has pretty much tried them all.

 

[Thad E Ginathom]

You should laugh IF they suggest something [CAT5 or something else] without trying it out first. Then it defies logic (if you can call it that). BUT, if they have tried it out and they FEEL that it makes a difference then there is no reason to laugh because in their mind (or in reality) it has worked and there's no telling otherwise unless you try it out yourself and it does not work for you. And even if it does not, there are too many variables that one can blame it on.

One cannot question the perception of another. However, the perceived remains wide open to question, and the interpretation even wider. As you say, there are many variables, and audio people are often not very good at recognising that. We speak of laughing (and some things, like acrylic speaker cable supports, seem to me to deserve nothing else) but, of course, questioning and discussion is both more polite and more productive. Among other things, it allows the possibility of the questioner being proved wrong. So let the questioning continue .

I wish that more audio lovers would take note of my signature. it does not in any way deter experiment, even extreme experiment --- but it says that one has to look further than experience.

 

[alphacentury100]

I too would like to recommend the BlueJeanCable. for speakers go for 10 or 12awg cables.

 

[AmitKumar]

Mogami 2549 with Neutrik ProFi Gold RCA connectors - brilliant and rocking. ProFi is not cheap but superior to Neutrik's regular gold plated RCAs. REAN is cheaper than regular Neutrik but construction is also clearly inferior.

I'm guessing the 2549 with Eichmann Bullets will be even better.

it will be a great help to me if you can give me model numbers or links of those connectors that you are recommending.

I also wanted to know if you are using or have heard connectors made with mogami w2549 cable.

Regards.

 

[AmitKumar]

Mogami 2534 will have slightly softer transients and better vocals as compared to 2549 which is a good thing for digital recordings. Also 2534 will have a higher noise rejection which also might be a good thing for digital. If digital is going to be your main source the 2534 would be a better choice.

i basically need to change the stock interconnects of my turntable, then need one interconnect for phono stage to amp and another for bluray to amp.

So you feel that for the TT and the phono connection i can use 2549 and for the bluray i can use the 2534?

 

[manoj.p]

Yes, 24AWG is thinner than 17AWG. Why only 17, it's thinner than 23AWG and lower numbered AWG.

Didn't want to offend you or anything. But I saw your one post recommending 17 AWG and another saying 24 AWG too thick, so just wanted to clear the confusion (if there was any to begin with).

Incidently 24 gauge is quite thin for speaker wire that I have seen. Even Home Depot sells speaker wires that are 18 AWG minimum.

 

[AmitKumar]

Didn't want to offend you or anything. But I saw your one post recommending 17 AWG and another saying 24 AWG too thick, so just wanted to clear the confusion (if there was any to begin with).

Incidently 24 gauge is quite thin for speaker wire that I have seen. Even Home Depot sells speaker wires that are 18 AWG minimum.

hi Manoj,

the cable we are discussing for making RCA is 24 awg and the one recommended for speakers is 17 awg.

I hope it gives some clarity.

 

[prem]

Hi Amitkumar

For both i would personally prefer 2534. It has better rf rejection. But you could try out the 2549 from the phono to the pre

 

[keith_correa]

Didn't want to offend you or anything. But I saw your one post recommending 17 AWG and another saying 24 AWG too thick, so just wanted to clear the confusion (if there was any to begin with).

Incidently 24 gauge is quite thin for speaker wire that I have seen. Even Home Depot sells speaker wires that are 18 AWG minimum.

No offense taken but you have got it wrong. The 17AWG wire was for speakers and 24AWG was for IC's.

 

[manoj.p]

hi Manoj,

the cable we are discussing for making RCA is 24 awg and the one recommended for speakers is 17 awg.

I hope it gives some clarity.

No offense taken but you have got it wrong. The 17AWG wire was for speakers and 24AWG was for IC's.

Oops, my bad then. :sad:

 

[AmitKumar]

Oops, my bad then. :sad:

hi Manoj,

dont worry, it happens with us some time.

I suggest you google canare 4S8, which is recommeded earlier, seems a very good option.

Each cable has got 4 small cables inside. We need to convert them to two by joining them.

The result might be 14 awg or lower.

Regards, Amit

 

[jls001]

it will be a great help to me if you can give me model numbers or links of those connectors that you are recommending.

I also wanted to know if you are using or have heard connectors made with mogami w2549 cable.

Regards.

Neutrik ProFi Gold used to be stocked by Promedia in Mumbai, but they don't have it right now. I asked a fortnight ago. Eichmann is available online from Australia. If you want to go more exotic, Furutech makes really, really nice RCA connectors.

I have listened to the W2549 with ProFi in my setup and liked it a lot. It is comparable in all aspects to my reference single-ended cable.

 

[jls001]

i basically need to change the stock interconnects of my turntable, then need one interconnect for phono stage to amp and another for bluray to amp.

So you feel that for the TT and the phono connection i can use 2549 and for the bluray i can use the 2534?

The Jelco tonearm cable that sells for megabucks is made with Mogami cable. I don't know the exact model number of the cable used but I'm guessing it will be well shielded and have low capacitance.

 

[AmitKumar]

Neutrik ProFi Gold used to be stocked by Promedia in Mumbai, but they don't have it right now. I asked a fortnight ago. Eichmann is available online from Australia. If you want to go more exotic, Furutech makes really, really nice RCA connectors.

I have listened to the W2549 with ProFi in my setup and liked it a lot. It is comparable in all aspects to my reference single-ended cable.

Are talking about the ones in this link: Neutrik NF2CB/2 Profi | Redco Audio
These seems to be premium ones, abt 30 USD will go into the one RCA for connectors only. I was thinking for spending not more than 10 USD on connectors for each pair RCA.
By chance you came across these connectors from Neutrik: Neutrik NYS 352G | Redco Audio
many websites in US seems to be selling them, not sure how they will be.

Also request you to recommend any budget speaker cable. i was intending to buy this one: Mogami W3103 | Redco Audio
Have strong recommendation for this: Canare 4S8 | Redco Audio
Please give your view or recommend any other cable, i can go upto 3 USD per feet.

Regards, Amit

 

[AmitKumar]

Hi Amitkumar

I would suggest you write to Dr Bass on this forum and ask for his opinion on which connectors work best with Mogami. I think he has pretty much tried them all.

I dropped a PM to Dr. Bass, Let us see.