Best Price for Panasonic 50ST30

I saw one of the participants claiming that 50V20 is better than 50ST30 -in terms of 2D picture quality. Is it so? This is indeed surprising. Latest model (2011) having the latest panel offering comparitively low quality? Some one please clarify..

Thanks
Vijjy
 
I saw one of the participants claiming that 50V20 is better than 50ST30 -in terms of 2D picture quality. Is it so? This is indeed surprising. Latest model (2011) having the latest panel offering comparitively low quality? Some one please clarify..

Thanks
Vijjy

It is ot surprising.. To give you a perspective.. It is like comparing samsung 8 series LCD of 2010 with 6 series of 2011..

The equalent version in V series is V30 which is not released in india.. Then there is GT series and ST comes third in the lineup..
 
I saw one of the participants claiming that 50V20 is better than 50ST30 -in terms of 2D picture quality. Is it so? This is indeed surprising. Latest model (2011) having the latest panel offering comparitively low quality? Some one please clarify..

Thanks
Vijjy

The 3D version of 50V20 is 50VT20. It is available in hyderabad with 2 glasses for 80k.
 
So if I view only 2D should I go for 50V20 instead of 50ST30 - for the time being ignore the price factor. I am talking in terms of 2D picture quality only.

Vijjy
 
So if I view only 2D should I go for 50V20 instead of 50ST30 - for the time being ignore the price factor. I am talking in terms of 2D picture quality only.

Vijjy

The indian V20 is different from international version in that it has a different anti-relfective filter. Except that part both should be same.
But 50V20 costs 73k without any glasses in hyderabad. No use in buying from here. You should source it from bangalore for 64k which involves transit risk.

Edit: You can see V20 and ST30 side by side in reliance digital banjara hills in the panasonic counter. The VT20 comes with same filter as ST30, so same black levels in the bright light.
 
Hi vijjy,

Not basically a videophile but this is what i could correlate from various blogs.

ST30 has the neo plasma panel which is the latest from Panasonic. Moreover all 30 series have the fast changing phosporous as mentioned in the pan asia site.

VT series had Isf calibration and THX mode that is extra to the ST series. so VT20 might have THX and ISF but not the qualities of the 30 series panel. Few blogs say that VT20 had better blacks but i was very happy with the blacks of ST30. Other adv of 30 series is the fixing of issues like floating blacks etc that were part of 20 series.

If u want a cheaper series, then you should look at UT30 this is due for deewali 2011. From the dealer i heard that UT30 would be placed 20k less than ST30 and would be a competitor for samsung D550. It shares almost every capability of the ST30. What it might miss is the Neo plasma but would have the 30 series's fast changing phosporous with a tough glass panel.

80k price qouted here is excellent as its just 30k more than the US price.

Enjoy..
 
I am not sure if I have made myself clear. I want to know if I view only 2D should I go for 50ST30 (which is a 3D model) or 50V20D (which is a 2D model of 2010).. (So I am not bringing the VT model into the arena). Let us asume the price is not the decisive factor here. In short what would be your best 2D 50" Plasma model in Panasonic.

Thanks

Vijjy
 
I am not sure if I have made myself clear. I want to know if I view only 2D should I go for 50ST30 (which is a 3D model) or 50V20D (which is a 2D model of 2010).. (So I am not bringing the VT model into the arena). Let us asume the price is not the decisive factor here. In short what would be your best 2D 50" Plasma model in Panasonic.

Thanks

Vijjy

In 2011, all good models have 3D you like it or not. Only base models come with 2D.
In other words, the best 2D models are not best in displaying 2D. It is the 3D models that do.
The best 2D model is U30 which will not even come close to ST30 in performance.
Year 2010 was a bit different. All the TVs had 2D counterparts. V series is the top of the series with V being 2D and VT being 3D. ('T' being the third dimension).
Difference between V and VT is an anti reflective screen and 3D. The difference in cost being 35k.
Now V is available for 73k and VT for 80k.
The 2011 V series is not released in india..
VT>GT>ST in the series lineup of 2011.
We are lalking of 2010 V series vs 2011 S series.
Hope everything is clear.
 
Hi Blasto,

You have offered the nearest answer I am looking at. Thank you. This is what that confused me when a comment said that for 2D performance 50V20 is better than 50ST30. I believe that 50ST30 is a 3D model that displays 2D even better than 50V20d. Correct me again if I am wrong. Now coming to the prices I am not getting anywhere near the prices you mentioned in Hyderabad. For 50ST30 I am getting a so called lowest quote of 100K!

Thanks

Vijjy
 
how many confirmed buyers do we have as of now?

and what is the deadline for closing the groupbuy?

i am going to buy plasma since i have sold off my sony 3lcd rptv. and i cant wait indefinitely.

please post a deadline so that if the groupbuy fails, i can go ahead with my purchase here?
 
Hi Blasto,

You have offered the nearest answer I am looking at. Thank you. This is what that confused me when a comment said that for 2D performance 50V20 is better than 50ST30. I believe that 50ST30 is a 3D model that displays 2D even better than 50V20d. Correct me again if I am wrong. Now coming to the prices I am not getting anywhere near the prices you mentioned in Hyderabad. For 50ST30 I am getting a so called lowest quote of 100K!

Thanks

Vijjy

No you are wrong.
Refer the below thread.
http://www.hifivision.com/televisio...panasonic-v20-st30-x30-samsung-d490-d550.html
 
The VT20 was voted as a reference TV of 2010 and also as the best performing 2D TV of 2010 by many reviewers.

They even compared it to the 2D-only model V20 and still concluded that the VT20 was a better performing model in the 2D arena. Keep in mind the V20 sold abroad comes with an Infinite Black PRO panel while the one sold here in India is just plain vanila Infinite Black (no PRO).

So your comparision between the ST30 and the best 2D performer of 2010 should be limited to the VT20 in my opinion.
 
In 2011, all good models have 3D you like it or not. Only base models come with 2D.
In other words, the best 2D models are not best in displaying 2D. It is the 3D models that do.

One more relevant point which many members are not aware of is that in the case of active 3D, that is in plasmas, there is little cost involves in adding 3D. The costly technology is on the glasses. That is why 3D is incorporated in all high end plasmas, whether you liked it or not. The reverse is the case with passive 3D. Here the technology is on the TV, and the glass is very cheap. So there will be significant price difference, even in future, between TVs with 3D and without 3D, where passive 3D is used.
 
Hi Blasto,

You have offered the nearest answer I am looking at. Thank you. This is what that confused me when a comment said that for 2D performance 50V20 is better than 50ST30. I believe that 50ST30 is a 3D model that displays 2D even better than 50V20d. Correct me again if I am wrong. Now coming to the prices I am not getting anywhere near the prices you mentioned in Hyderabad. For 50ST30 I am getting a so called lowest quote of 100K!

Thanks

Vijjy

If you want the best 2D....you being in hyderabad have the option of buying the 50VT20.......do pick up without much thinking....while they last
 
If you want the best 2D....you being in hyderabad have the option of buying the 50VT20.......do pick up without much thinking....while they last

Just saw hez in hyderabad.. Man.. Just pick up the VT20 @80k and call it a day.. We have done all reasearch for you and negotiated the best prices for you.. You have to just go and take the TV..

Checkout the reviews..
VT20
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panasonic-tx-p50vt20b-tx-p50vt20-20100520694.htm

ST30
Panasonic TX-P42ST30/ TX-P42ST30B (ST30) Review
 
in Delhi, panasonic has come out with this ad for ST30 @ discount price of 1.08L. Hence if this is available for 80K with delivery from Delhi, I am also in for the same. Please let me know the process for this group buy.
Cheers
 
Having some problem with motions,please go throug report

Panasonic Viera TC-P50ST30 50-inch 3D Plasma TV HDTV Review | PCWorld





Panasonic TC-P50ST30 Plasma HDTV Review: Great Features, Subpar Sound and Image
Panasonic Viera TC-P50ST30 50-inch 3D Plasma TV Review, by Lincoln Spector July 26, 2011
You might expect a 50-inch 3D plasma set from a respected manufacturer to put on a great show. In that regard, however, the Panasonic TC-P50ST30 (estimated street price of $1400 as of June 8, 2011) might disappoint you. Sure, it has all the right features--Wi-Fi, a generous selection of Internet feeds, and multimedia via USB, SD, and DLNA. But the picture quality leaves much to be desired, and the audio will make your ears hurt.

In our image-quality tests, the TC-P50ST30 had particular problems with motion. The landscape vibrated significantly in our diagonal-panning test, for instance. To be fair, that torture test is designed to exaggerate problems that would be slight in real-world use. But we saw plenty of motion problems in our real-world tests, too. Moving-camera shots from the Blu-ray releases of Mission: Impossible III (chapter 7) and The Dark Knight (chapter 9) produced shimmering. In our baseball test, one judge noted that the pitcher's mound was vibrating.
Color and contrast problems cropped up as well. The TC-P50ST30 tended to apply red or orange tints over light colors, so pale skin tones often ended up looking sunburned. Scenes often appeared dark or oversaturated.

The audio was considerably worse than the picture. With the volume turned all the way up, the sound was horribly distorted. At 50 percent (a far more reasonable volume), we still detected considerable distortion. When a singer in Phantom of the Opera (chapter 2) sang the word "indeed," I could hear the speakers straining with the high note. The simulated surround was acceptable but unexceptional.

At this point in every HDTV review, I remind readers that all TV speakers have their limits, and that you should buy a separate surround receiver and speakers for the full cinematic 5.1 audio experience. With the TC-P50ST30, that advice goes double.

But then again, if you buy a TC-P50ST30, you may also want to invest in special glasses. This HDTV offers active-shutter 3D, but it doesn't provide the necessary glasses. Panasonic sells them for $150 a pair.

Panasonic does include a Wi-Fi adapter, so you can get network access even if you can't stretch an ethernet cable from your router to your TV. However you make the connection, the TC-P50ST30 provides a good selection of Internet content, including Amazon's and CinemaNow's pay-per-view services, Facebook, Netflix, Pandora, YouTube, and more.

That same network connection also gives you access to the photos, music, and videos on your computer. Your PC will have to be on and running a DLNA server, but since Windows Media Player is a DLNA server, that shouldn't be a problem. The DLNA option does an especially good job with music; you can search for the right song by genre, artist, albums, playlists, and other criteria.

The TC-P50ST30 has USB ports and an SD Card slot, so you can carry media files physically to the HDTV if you prefer. You can't browse music on a card or drive as you can via DLNA; the television finds all of the appropriate files on the plugged-in media, saving you the hassle of searching through folders. It also offers an impressive slideshow tool, with plenty of transition effects and background-music options.

Its video and audio formats are limited, however. The TC-P50ST30 plays only .mp3 and .aac audio, and it couldn't manage two of the video formats I threw at it. It handles more formats with DLNA, where the server can do some of the decoding. You'll find a list of supported formats on page 30 of the manual, which is downloadable as a PDF.

Whether electronic or on paper, that manual is well laid out, and it includes several useful explanations and illustrations. It has a three-page FAQ and an index. The TC-P50ST30 also comes with a colorful and useful quick-setup guide.

Panasonic did a very good job of making this set easy to use, but not a perfect one. The main on-screen menu is large, legible, and attractive, with short but useful explanations. But it isn't always intuitive. For instance, pressing the right arrow won't take you to a submenu; you have to press OK for that.

As with most HDTVs, you change inputs (for example, moving from broadcast channels to your Blu-ray player) by pressing the remote's Input button, which brings up a scrollable list. But Panasonic has improved that standard by adding the ability to edit this list. You can assign various labels to your inputs, making them easy to recognize. If you assign the 'Not used' label to an input, it will be skipped when you scroll through the list.

The remote control isn't exceptional, aside from the well-done backlighting and a ridge on the back that gives it a good grip. The volume and channel controls are perfectly located, but the circle of arrows is too high. The remote is not programmable.

Another button on that remote, for Viera Tools, allows you to change some common options without searching through the more complex main menu. These options include one to convert 2D programs to simulated 3D. Since Panasonic didn't bundle glasses with our review unit, I can't tell you whether the effect looks any good. The Viera Tools menu also provides access to media-player settings, the video mode, and 'Eco' settings to turn the TV off automatically after too much time of nonuse.

Although the TC-P50ST30 has Energy Star certification, it isn't particularly green by today's standards, burning 138 watts when on. Plasma HDTVs generally consume more power than LCDs or LEDs do, so this result shouldn't be surprising. When turned off, the TC-P50ST30 sipped so little electricity that the amount didn't show up on our tests.

Panasonic got a lot right when it designed the TC-P50ST30. Unfortunately, the image quality wasn't one of those things. The picture isn't awful, but it should be better
 
Just saw hez in hyderabad.. Man.. Just pick up the VT20 @80k and call it a day.. We have done all reasearch for you and negotiated the best prices for you.. You have to just go and take the TV..

Checkout the reviews..
VT20
Panasonic TX-P50VT20/ TX-P50VT20B/ 50VT20 3D TV Review

ST30
Panasonic TX-P42ST30/ TX-P42ST30B (ST30) Review

More opinions more doubts. VT20 is the top end of the 3D offered in India. Right? But Panasonic calls it V series. This is one of the reasons we get confused it with the 50V20D of 2010. Now this 50VT20 (3d model) is not available for the price you mentioned in Hyderabad. Lowest quote is 130K ! Besides I saw in some reviews ( more knowledge more pain - more indecision - cant help it) that 50VT20 has got Flicker problem.
http://www.avforums.com/reviews/Panasonic-VT20-TX-P50VT20-VT20-3D-Plasma-Review.html.

Mainly the price and this review again holding me back!! Here I tend to become philosophical - those who do so much R&D like us will have tough time taking decisions and have problems and those who straight away walk into the showroom and swipe the card will live happily ever after...

Vijjy
 
VT20 is the top end of the 3D offered in India. Right? But Panasonic calls it V series.
Thats wrong.
This is one of the reasons we get confused it with the 50V20D of 2010. Now this 50VT20 (3d model) is not available for the price you mentioned in Hyderabad. Lowest quote is 130K !
Wrong again. read this especially past weeks discussions www.hifivision.com/television/17578-panasonic-plasma-v20-series-group-buy.html Dont go by title of thread.
 
More opinions more doubts. VT20 is the top end of the 3D offered in India. Right? But Panasonic calls it V series. This is one of the reasons we get confused it with the 50V20D of 2010. Now this 50VT20 (3d model) is not available for the price you mentioned in Hyderabad. Lowest quote is 130K ! Besides I saw in some reviews ( more knowledge more pain - more indecision - cant help it) that 50VT20 has got Flicker problem.
http://www.avforums.com/reviews/Panasonic-VT20-TX-P50VT20-VT20-3D-Plasma-Review.html.

Mainly the price and this review again holding me back!! Here I tend to become philosophical - those who do so much R&D like us will have tough time taking decisions and have problems and those who straight away walk into the showroom and swipe the card will live happily ever after...

Vijjy

Make up your mind and PM me if you are interested in 50VT20 for 80k with finance.. Iam in hyderabad and know the place.. 1.3L is last year price.
 
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