Digital Stabilizers - Horrors in our Apartment

[suri]

Just make sure you do it on a day when there is thunder and lightning in your area so you can blame it all on nature. The weatherman will then be your best evidence. Also fry a few other discarded items to add to the 'mayhem' caused by nature. Then you will certainly get the fat cheque.

Cheers

perhaps the best way would be to wait for that day in June (in the tropics)

And upgrade in september

 

[SilS]

those who say their solution works, have you experienced a mighty surge and survived, or it's just that it hasn't struck as yet?

I have a Belkin Gold series 8 socket surge protector. It has protection for telephones lines as well.

Recently there was lightning in my area and all the equipments connected to this was safe.However the phone port stopped working after the incident.

All the other telephones in my house which was not connected via belkin was burnt.

Since the device have lifetime warranty Belkin replaced it with a new piece.

 

[soundbar]

Just bounced into this thread and well, its scaring.
I have a Samsung 40 LCD
Onkyo HTS 3400
DVD player
Set Top Box

What are the options that i should consider -
Stabiliser + Surge + UPS? what should be the sizing and how do i calculate the requirements and output?

As of now, i have connected all the power cor's to a local spike buster (400rs) that is connected to a UPS and that to a Fridge Stabiliser? I have just connected without looking at the input and output considerations and so far do not have any problems

But now reading thru this thread, want to ensure that i do i the right way?

 

[dkaile]

I have a similar experience of some power surge lately and luckily just 1-2 bulbs shorted; My entire LED and AV system was protected by a 3 year not so costly/cheap Microtek 800va ups system which did its job perfectly and saved the day for me.

 

[prankey]

I never thought about such things! :-o


Is surge protector alone without the stabilizer enough?

It is not a "branded" item - a friend of the family runs an electrical business (inverters, generators etc...) and he designs and builds these and this was done as a favour.

Regular manual surge protectors that are slightly blocky and ugly are not that expensive - and should be within 1K.



This thread has me totally scared and I have asked for a quote for installing a custom single/multiple stabilizer system around the house.

I am also looking for a line surge suppressor for my apartment. I have a couple of them to connect to my TV and other equipments like mobile chargers. Most of the current TVs and even recent regenerators have in built stabilizers and I honestly do not want them as they add noise to the utility supply and we anyway need to be protected against overvoltage. Undervoltage usually do not cause much issue rather than device malfunction. Most of the current equipments support 100 to 240V supply eliminating the need for a stabilizer.

FYI while it may not be recommended, I preferred CLEANER supply which only a line conditional can provide. Undervoltage and mild overvoltage has not damaged my equipment even when it might have reduced the overall lifetime of them (they still last their lifetime without an issue).

 

[crewcut]

Recently there was lightning in my area and all the equipments connected to this was safe.However the phone port stopped working after the incident.

My Netgear DSL/WiFi Router doesn't work downstream of the Belkin phone port. Any suggestions?

 

[baijuxavior]

My Netgear DSL/WiFi Router doesn't work downstream of the Belkin phone port. Any suggestions?

Have you checked for any burnt fuse etc.?

 

[denzong]

i checked with a lot of people on the stabilizer parts and with the kind of equipment i had all suggested heavy duty.
the simplest solution given to me was out a Vguard 15A stabilizer and that was typically an air conditioner stabilizer. bought that for 3300 (much lesser then the others cause as explained to me the other ones are in lesser Amp, expensive and just good to look at). i am quite happy after that

 

[ark]

My Netgear DSL/WiFi Router doesn't work downstream of the Belkin phone port. Any suggestions?

Did it work before ? It is unlikely to work. These devices are designed to protect a typical voice line, which is a low frequency signal. DSL uses high frequency signal transmitted on the same line. The issue is , you need to trap DSL signal before any other load is connected to the line. The high frequency DSL signal might be getting filtered out by the Belkin port.

 

[Thad E Ginathom]

We can't tell without knowing the model, and what it claims to do, but I would be very surprised if it is designed only to protect phones. A phone is of insignificant value compared to the modem/router and other devices connected to the network.

 

[olly42]

I am a victim of Surge Voltage as well lost 85K worth of Equipment including Spike Guard, voltage stabilizers, 42 "Plasma, DVD player. Microwave, Fans, ELCB in the mains etc

At that point of time I did not have a circuit breaker inside my house. So I got that put immediately. Secondly i got a power connection box made especially for my audio video connection which has a circuit breaker + fuse and that is connected to the Spike guard which also has a fuse

So if anything has to happen post all these measures I thnk its time to upgrade ;-) Thats how I ended up picking up the 50V20D

 

[crewcut]

Did it work before ? It is unlikely to work. These devices are designed to protect a typical voice line, which is a low frequency signal. DSL uses high frequency signal transmitted on the same line. The issue is , you need to trap DSL signal before any other load is connected to the line. The high frequency DSL signal might be getting filtered out by the Belkin port.

It never worked, even from from Day 1. It looks like my only hope is that the DSL splitter burns first.

 

[ark]

We can't tell without knowing the model, and what it claims to do

Agreed.

My point is, if the protector is designed for a typical phone line, it is unlikely to work with a DSL line. This is true for most protectors available until a few years back. We need one specifically designed for both.

I had a similar case with an APC UPS. It had a port for phone line, but it wont work with DSL.

 

[crewcut]

This is true for most protectors available until a few years back...

Don't bet on it. My Belkin protector is less than an year old.

 

[arunlouie]

Very nice informative warning thread.

Why not someone make an article and publish it with experiences and suggestions in our Articles section. will be useful for many.

 

[omishra]

I think I posted below information in wrong thread. So copying and pasting it again here -

I hope people forgive me for this too much technical details. But anybody interested in DIY noise filter and spike/surge protector can look into this. I feel circuit breaker (10A rating) can stop the damage. I never faced anything so far. Also inline caps and inductors can improve PF (measuring required) and noise filtration Mains Filter
I have used this one behind computer PS using 300V MOV, but now planning to extend this idea at every 3 pin socket using 1 step of the filter.

 

[HTuser]

Which is better

Belkin Surge Protector --> Stabilizer/servo --> A/V Equipment

or

Stabilizer/Servo --> Belkin Surge Protector --> A/V Equipment

 

[sudhishkv]

My newly installed Belkin Surge Protector's(F9G826) surge protction indicator lights stop glowing. Wanted to know what happened and it seems I need to replect the sacrificed suge protector. From the maual its free if we contact Belkin. Anyone got it replaced? Also came across the following blog.

Surge Suppressors: Ticking Time-Bomb? | Overclockers

 

[pralhadz]

I have inverter for entire house.
I have got belkin ultimate surge protector. Planning to add it in between main plug (which will draw power from inverter whenever power get cut off.
Out put of surge protector will be used for 51 inch plasma + DTH

So please let me know your opinion

#1
Inverter --> surge protector --> equipment

#2
Inverter --> surge protector -->stabilizer--> equipment

Please note here inverter is for entire home and will come up when power goes.

Please advise.

Thanks

 

[Kittu]

Sinewave inverter with enough load capacity and equipment.

Wall mains -> Stabilizer - > Equipment.

Dont mix inverters , stabilizers and surge protectors.