Fostex Thunderpants Orthodynamic Headphone-My impressions

hmm - my impression would be much less detailed and less articulated. Right now trying to muster up the courage to redo the connections on my setup to use the cdp as source, and maybe the dac with appletv.
 
^I meant that they slightly exaggerated the sibilance inherent in the tracks probably due to some peaks in the upper mids. "Eva Cassidy - Songbird " is one such album.

Yup..i don't know if yo uguys remember reading my post before i sent it across..i mentioned this too as well as thebass not being all that a TP can be. THose are the main two faults i had with the TPs i sent across to you lads and just didn't have the time to fool with the damping what with searching for a job and all :o
 
Sorry, could not get the setup redone. So doing my listening with appeltv's analog out. I found laptop out too noisy, and my hrt streamer dac is not yet here. Amp is similar to gurubhai's - ehha.
These headphones are excellent.
There is decent bass, reverbs and layers in the bass, mid are meaty, and details are there in the treble.
However, when comparing with yamaha's the bass is lesser, lesser detailed, there is some sibilance and slightly fatiguing to listen to them. They are heavy and hence fatiguing to wear for long duration.

some of the songs I used to do a comparison:
Kehna hi kya - Bombay
Dil to bachcha hai ji
The fireswamp and the rodents
Dirty Diana - MJ

May be able to do a 1 to 1 with hd 650 on monday night. Will ship it to esanthosh on tuesday morning.
 
Overnite courier (the official courier of our company) picked it up on Fri.

Tracking says - In-Transit : Arrived at COIMBATORE on Saturday, February 12, 2011

esanthosh - please update if you have received the headphones?
 
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they only deliver to esanthosh's area once a week. Did not have this knowledge beforehand otherwise would have used another courier. Overnite has an office within my office so they are easy to follow up in case there is a problem.

Other issue is the cost of sending it back to the US. How can we contribute to ease the burden on esanthosh? Contribution is not a problem, logistics may be.
Esanthosh, I think we can send via netbanking to your account.

I propose we split the cost equally between all the members who listened to it.
 
Ananth, I was about to mention that we all should contribute to the shipping charges incurred in sending the TPs to the USA. NEFT would be good enough. I guess we should contact Brendon and Gurubhai too.
 
Couriers like Aramex don't deliver to our area either. But they hand it over to Professional Couriers which deliver them the next day. I thought Overnite would do the same. I had no idea that they had a weekly schedule, otherwise I'd have told anm when he called for confirming my address on Friday. The office is likely to be closed tomorrow and since they are not picking up phone now, I will need to wait till Thursday.

As far as sharing the amount is concerned, I'll be relieved. NEFT should work out just fine.
 
Yep, we all can contribute for international shipping.I was thinking about bringing this topic up & I am glad you guys did.

First, we have to decide which shipping service to use. IIRC, sachi said that he prefers USPS, which would mean that we can ship it through Indiapost.

The two options are:

Registered Post : Cheap, a bit slow but very secure.

Speedpost : more expensive, fast, reasonably secure.

What do you guys think would be better?
 
Secure and safe should be the prime concern as the item is very valuable and rare. When you say, ' A bit slow', how slow would it be? Sorry I am not familiar with these services.
 
what about private couriers like dhl? they should be fast and reliable too? I am yet to receive my hrt streamer sent via usps.
 
International shipments take about 2 weeks on an average, though there are variations.
The fastest IME was a registered mail from england which reached me in 3 days stat. The slowest being about 30 days for a priority mail.

I usually prefer the registered mail option since I was told that it uses a different & more 'secure' route than other mail(including speedpost) methods.

DHL is also a viable option but there will be issues of customs with private couriers.
Maybe sachi can chime in with his preference.
 
FWIW, DTDC local office says that they can offer a lower rate than DHL and they have an office in US. I am using DTDC for deliveries within India, but I am not very sure about their International services.

In other news, I did not get a solid reply regarding delivery from Overnite. So, I've picked up the parcel myself. Will post early impressions tonight or tomorrow.
 
Thanks for picking it up. I checked the rates at dhl site giving 1kg as weight and 30cmx15cmx15cm as dimensions - it said about 4k and delivery date 18th.
 
My Initial Impressions

Introduction:

First off, thanks to sachi for trusting us with the TPs and making this thread possible.

I am the odd one out of the lot. I own headphones, but almost never use them. I am more used to sticking IEMs inside my ear. So, I'll be comparing TPs to IEMs when it comes to sound characteristics.

Enough has been said about the build quality and looks of the TP. So, I hope I can take a shortcut and go directly to sound impressions.

The Setup

Everyone so far has tried to drive TP out of the best amplifier / source they've got. Me? I throw rules out of the window. Reading about how they are relatively easier to drive and the presence of a 3.5mm plug set the weird side of my mind in motion.

I first tried the TPs directly out of a Cowon S9 (Vol: 28) -> iBasso T3 (Both gains engaged = +7 dB Gain, Vol: 9) and TPs seemed to work just fine. This was too big to carry for me. So, I decided to run TPs for this review straight out of a .... (drums roll) ... Rockboxed Clip+. To my knowledge, Clip+ has one of the least powerful headphone outs. But this diminutive device drove TPs easy enough at Vol of -2 (RB goes from -88 to +6). As is usual with my listening sessions, I kept on reducing volume at regular intervals and was listening at -8 towards the end of the session. Just to compare, that's the max vol level I'd have used to drive RE262 out of Clip+.

Now, I expect TPs to improve on some fronts for future sessions with a proper headphone amp. So, while reading, keep in mind that I am describing TP out of Clip+ ;)

Sound Signature

The bass is smooth, fast and rounded. It does not extend to the lowest lows and has a slight mid-bass bump. In some ways, it reminds me of Brainwavz M2's bass, except that TP has thicker notes. TP's bass quantity is almost at the right level for me. Bass seems to step in only when needed without boosting up every song.

Mids of TP are neither forward, nor recessed and seem to be where they need to be. Mids are warm, slightly thick and well detailed. They make the overall sound smooth and non-fatiguing, but fall a tad short of sounding seductive / romantic / whatever term you audiophiles use enough for my ears.

The treble of TPs are not for a treble-head like me. They do have clarity, details and a bit of sparkle. Treble is thankfully not recessed and is more in balance with the rest of the spectrum. But, I like my cymbals a bit more forthcoming.

Vocals are almost always in the center, much to my liking. Sibilance present in recording shows through a bit, but not to alarming or disturbing levels.

Sound stage of TP has good width as well as depth, but I felt they were shorter in height, many times to the point of feeling two dimensional. For instance with Miles Davis' "So What?", I could not figure out who's standing and who's sitting, something clearly laid out by an IEM like Ortofon e-Q5. This may have more to do with driving out of Clip+ though!

TPs carry good clarity across the spectrum. Instrument separation is very good. Imaging had everything I normally expect for describing 'very good imaging', but it did not have any 'wow' factor for me to consider them something special.

Conclusion

Overall, I felt TPs to be smooth, non-fatiguing and refined. They don't lack much to my ears, but they fall just a tad short of my expectations / requirements. I am not saying they are 'bad' or not 'good enough'. They are very good and do many things which are about right or apt for me, but I expected a bit more. But this being just the first day and that too out of a portable device, let's see how it pans out over the rest of the week.

At this stage, this is how I feel about the TPs - If an IEM sounded exactly like the TPs, I would probably place them in the Top-Tier of my rankings, but they won't be my favorite IEM.
 
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