Hifi Rack

[magma]

My experiments were with my own largish TV cum storage unit
Maybe i should have mentioned that earlier

Some audiophile friends extend this to even 3 foot tall racks
and i stated what they believe, partly because i believe in it too from my earlier experience

However i do not claim to know directly of ill effects of 3 foot equipments (nominal equipments as you put it)
My experience is limited to my own unit

On another note
statements like these
"where did this concept originate? - has it anything to do with alteration of gravitational forces ?
and "very strange - all this"

are not welcome

i have seen a couple of times your statements seem to belittle what other members believe on the forum
some see it as sarcastic and some a sense of humour
(i see it as rude and imposing)

You may be far more experinced than many here (me included)
but theres always a much better way to put stuff

you are entitled to your opinion and i to mine
i wrote what i believe and i stand by it
If i cannot back it by physics or technical knowledge does not mean anything

 

[suri]

My experiments were with my own largish TV cum storage unit
Maybe i should have mentioned that earlier

Some audiophile friends extend this to even 3 foot tall racks
and i stated what they believe, partly because i believe in it too from my earlier experience

However i do not claim to know directly of ill effects of 3 foot equipments (nominal equipments as you put it)
My experience is limited to my own unit

On another note
statements like these
"where did this concept originate? - has it anything to do with alteration of gravitational forces ?
and "very strange - all this"

are not welcome

i have seen a couple of times your statements seem to belittle what other members believe on the forum
some see it as sarcastic and some a sense of humour
(i see it as rude and imposing)

You may be far more experinced than many here (me included)
but theres always a much better way to put stuff

you are entitled to your opinion and i to mine
i wrote what i believe and i stand by it
If i cannot back it by physics or technical knowledge does not mean anything

alright magma - i suppose there are better ways of wording that- and i am sorry if i have hurt your sensibilities -

but, i do not think that this forum is about individual opinions -

i think it is about evolving a consensus about how best to do something - and, sometimes, what not to do-

again, consensus is important, because (even) regarding subjective sensations -cause and effect can usually be explained.

confusion arose in my mind because you stated -"equiment or rather anything BETWEEN your speakers will tend to destroy imaging
this is quite a well known fact."

perhaps my ignorance - but i did not know the fact -

you will realise that because i voiced my doubts (perhaps, in an abrasive way) discussion may follow - and a consensus may form.

and no, i do not know a lot of things about lots of things - still learning, but, maybe, asking questions using language that is not welcome.

and yes. you are free to use abrasive language with me - i will not take offence -

and no - i will try not to use that sort of language if i respond to your posts

 

[arj]

As Asit pointed out, in the end spatial imaging is due to the waves which reach our ears..some our ears ignore intrinsically and some it does not and it forms the image.

what i have seen on my system is that as long as the rack is Behind the speaker plane, the image is not really impacted much.. and the simple tweak in case it does is to throw a blanket over it..as that will kill the reflected waves from the rack/Tv which distort the image

 

[magma]

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what i have seen on my system is that as long as the rack is Behind the speaker plane, the image is not really impacted much..

exactly
i think i have written along similar lines in my discussion with ROC above
i observed the same with my setup

@hifiashok
thanks for the pics
i dunno if Mr shirke will let me have a very close look

but
fortunately if that setup belongs ( i think it used to belong to though)
to gentleman in that pic; im in luck because as luck would have it i personally do know that gentleman quite well

 

[arj]

He he.
but the turntable has a different problem it needs to be more worried about the SPL from those speakers impacting the turntable rather than the turntable affecting the image !

since the tweeters are well above the components it should be ok.
My guess is that having reflective surfaces is what really disrupts the image (TV/Monitor) disruptive/absorptive objects which provide an irregular face may not impact it that badly.

Never tried it for a very long tome as I by second nature always draw about the speakers in front of the rack...

 

[magma]

arj
not only are the tweeters well above the equiment
you can see that the rack is also behind the plane of the speakers
(well almost)
at least the front baffle of the speakers seems to be a good foot ahead of the equipment rack
this is what ROC and i discussed and i think thats what you meant as well

 

[magma]

double post
sorry

 

[hifiashok]

@hifiashok
thanks for the pics
i dunno if Mr shirke will let me have a very close look

i hav been over a few times and had no major issues.

however, the finite-elemente site has detailed documents with pix, close-ups, sizes and specifications.

but
fortunately if that setup belongs ( i think it used to belong to though)
to gentleman in that pic; im in luck because as luck would have it i personally do know that gentleman quite well

mzr-snt

 

[arj]

exactly

fortunately if that setup belongs ( i think it used to belong to though)
to gentleman in that pic; im in luck because as luck would have it i personally do know that gentleman quite well

no..But his setup is Uber Awesome

 

[magma]

more pics of a recent rack using 10mm tough glass black as shelves
base/bottom most shlef however is 19mm granite

 

[sidvee]

Awesome looking rack Magma:clapping:
Cheers
Sid

 

[magma]

thanks sid
belongs to a member here now
i think he'll put up some pics with his equip tonight

btw
ive posted your brass spikes too

 

[sidvee]

btw
ive posted your brass spikes too

Yes I saw those - they are looking great as well - looking forward to using them soon.
Cheers
Sid

 

[Kittu]

more pics of a recent rack using 10mm tough glass black as shelves
base/bottom most shlef however is 19mm granite

Nice RACK :lol: ...

seriously awesome finish magma bhai..... imagine few nice stereo/integrated amps and cd players on it with blue illumination :licklips: wow..

 

[captrajesh]

That rack has smashing looks. Hope the drool quotient extends to the SQ also.

 

[magma]

Though the Type 2 rack- solid stealth is primarily designed for aesthetics (especially since there are no ugly side columns and the rack doesnt look lke your regular shelf design) i have made a point to use 3 point inverted spike contacts for each shelf as well as the entire rack as a whole too (in effect isolating each equipment from the other)
i have also designed such that each shelf is not freely kept on the cantilever but is actually locked in to avoid any vibrations

base frame can be mas loaded with lead shot
and the heavy granite at the base ensures fine stability

hope it works out well for the buyers
has worked decently for me

 

[sidvee]

My new amp. stands as designed, executed and delivered by Magma. As always superb workmanship and rather good looking. I provided the MDF shelves soon to be upgraded to rosewood.
Cheers
Sid

 

[magma]

hey sid
when you find the source for rosewood please direct me to him
Hell, even if you can get cherry please let me know

Im finding it difficult to source here especially when i ask for 24inch by 18inch planks (12mm or 19mm thick)

P.S thanks for the kind words

 

[sidvee]

hey sid
when you find the source for rosewood please direct me to him
Hell, even if you can get cherry please let me know

Im finding it difficult to source here especially when i ask for 24inch by 18inch planks (12mm or 19mm thick)

P.S thanks for the kind words

Sure Magma - Actually I am having the same problem - finding larger sizes. A friend of mine who has a coffee estate and has rosewood trees offered to get the shelves made for me - but felling a rosewood tree even if it is on your own land apparently takes a bit of paperwork - so I am waiting to hear back from him.
Cheers
Sid

 

[KalyanVizag]

more pics of a recent rack using 10mm tough glass black as shelves
base/bottom most shlef however is 19mm granite

Wonderful looking rack... I wish I could own one of this.hyeah: