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sowhatxyz said:
Yes it did. indeed.....
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Unfortunately, the OP has a budget limited to 100k :) Plus a relatively small room and 70% usage is for movies. So recommendations need to be aligned to these requirements.

If the OP is willing to go for just a pair of fronts and an AVR, then the options are more, subject to availability in his city.
 
Sure, if experts feel ki considering smaller size of room, I am ready for AVR and only front speakers.
Kindly suggest options.
 
Since you are bound by what is available in your city, is the choice restricted to Polk, Mission and KEF? If so, then I think it should be easy to listen all of the options? KEF's Q series is a good choice but you need to confirm with the local retailer if he has these.
Try listening to Denon 1713 with Q500 (floor standers) or Q300 (book shelves). See if the sound suffices, else try going for a KEF center. Honestly speaking, these 2/3 speakers (fronts+center) should be good to get you started.
If you are trying to get last year's Denon series then while 1612 may drive the Q300, Q500 will require 1912.
 
milestoneseeker said:
If you are trying to get last year's Denon series then while 1612 may drive the Q300, Q500 will require 1912.
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please consider my ignorance:)

isnt there any avr which dont have all the misleaneous functions but do have the capacity to drive decent floorstanders along with centre and rear...

as the so many various functions wont be used...

as the price jumps of an avr with power rating increasing..

example

considering only fronts

1612---75w+75w at 8 ohms----26k
1912---90w+90w at 8 ohms----36k
2312---105w+105w at 8 ohms-----65k:mad:


so my basic question is if only the power is required and not the all modern functions.......is not there any solution...:o
 
On the contrary, you are hardly ignorant. It is true that when all one wants is an increase in power, he/she ends up shelling significantly more under the guise of buying more features :) Unfortunately, I do not see an alternative to the options.
I am not sure if any branded Indian product exists in the AVR sphere (like Norge etc) but if there is one, that may be much more VFM.
One solution is buying separates where one buys a good but cheap AVR with a preout. This allows AVR to play the role of a pre-amp if needed and any additional power as required can be bought by buying power amps rather than changing the AVR every time. Unfortunately, this turns out to be even more expensive (the first time i.e.). In the long run with multiple cycles of upgrades, this actually is cheaper and more effective.
 
The guy is suggesting a Polk center with Kef fronts!!! I would be instantly suspecious of him...he's either trying to hose you or is brilliant with his matching skills. Polk to my ears have been very bright across the board...and Kef's have been a bit laid back. IMO they would not go well together and timbre mismatch would be very distracting.

I'd be a good idea to go for the front and center from the same series...

I've been using Kef's for a few years now...and I like the sound but they are not versatile. If you are into music like ghazals, hindustani or jazz, they are brilliant but you might find them lacking a bit for stuff like trance or hard rock. That does not mean that they don't do them well but there are other speakers that could do them better.

I am saying this based on my experience with the Coda series and the earlier Q and later iQ series. Not heard C yet but i've read that they are great entry-level HT speakers. Listen to them and then a few others. That would help you get a perspective...
 
Hi friends,
A lot of confusion with so many options!
What I feel....
KEF Q 300 - Rs 31000
KEF C4-SUBWOOFER - Rs 25000
Denon 1513 - Rs 25000 OR Denon 1612 27K OR 1713 @36K. (Tell me which one is better as far as day today use and future upgrade is concerned. Is it worth to spend Rs 10k extra for 1713?)

Considering small living room, I think is it fine? Any valuable suggestions?
If needed surround can be added later when budget is ready.
Thanks
 
joshiks7 said:
Hi friends,
A lot of confusion with so many options!
What I feel....
KEF Q 300 - Rs 31000
KEF C4-SUBWOOFER - Rs 25000
Denon 1513 - Rs 25000 OR Denon 1612 27K OR 1713 @36K. (Tell me which one is better as far as day today use and future upgrade is concerned. Is it worth to spend Rs 10k extra for 1713?)

Considering small living room, I think is it fine? Any valuable suggestions?
If needed surround can be added later when budget is ready.
Thanks
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Between 1513 and 1713, 1713 is a clear winner. While the power/ch is not very different, the connectivities (4 HDMI IN vs 6 HDMI IN etc) make 1713 a better choice, especially when it comes to upgrades.
I don't have specifics of 1612 but if it was anything like 1611, I would recommend 1713. You get more power, many more features and the latest product. Considering the budget you spoke of is 100k, why not the latest model?
That will still leave with you some moolah for sorrounds down the line :)

P.S: Just remembered ... you will need to factor in 6-8k for a pair of good stands for the BS.
 
Hi,
sorry for so many questions...
Hows this system at approx. Rs 60k--
Polk Blackstone TL1600 - Rs 35000
Denon 1513 - Rs 25000. or 1612
Rs 60000/-
 
Hi. You seem to be very confused. You want to match a mid range speaker to an entry level AVR. Have you auditioned any of these or are you simply going by word of mouth?

How do you like your music and movies? Do you like a lot of bass or are you more of a treble guy? There is very little that you have shared. Also, please specify if you have a dedicated room. This will help you enhance performance by adding room acoustics.
 
Hi,
v. difficult to get audition of all brands in small town, hence relying on forum.
No dedicated room.
I like bass more.
Thanks
 
joshiks7 said:
Hi,
v. difficult to get audition of all brands in small town, hence relying on forum.
No dedicated room.
I like bass more.
Thanks
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Trust me it's equally difficult to audition these brands even in a metro, given that they aren't available under one roof.

Coming to your requirements, assuming that you'll be sitting close to the back wall along the length of 15', you can go either for the Q500 or Q300. Audition the two and take a pick.

As far as surround is concerned, choose dipole or bipole speakers although i must warn you that the matching surround from KEFs are gonna be as expensive as the main speakers.

Pair this with the Denon 1912 or its successor.

If instead, you want the denon 1612, then pair it with a much smaller speakers as the amp will not be able to do justice to the KEF Q500 or Q300.

Onkyo offers some very good HTIB that you can consider.
 
Hi,
With Denon1713 and KEF Q300 front speakers, do I need to keep C4 subwoofer since begining? B'coz due to my soundbar decision for bredroom, I am tight on budget.
How much difference is subwoofer going to make?

Ok, in above configuration in future upgrade, which KEF centre and surround should be added and whats its approx. cost?
 
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Subwoofer makes a definitive difference. But does it make that much a difference that you no longer enjoy the experience without it? Nope. If on tight budget, start with just the fronts. And then move towards either a center or a subwoofer.
 
Hi,
Again one advice needed. I am ready to spend around Rs.100k for KEF in phased manner.
But honestly such powerful system in small living of 15x10 sq. feet----is it serious overkill and overspending of hard earned money? Heart says go for best---KEF, but brain says its too much-----get something like POLK blackstone with Denon in 60k and enjoy.
Give me correct advice please. I must decide system in weeks time and proceed further.
Thanks
 
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