Lg 50pk550 r

[Mannu]

Auto dimming is enabled in some cameras. To know if yours has it, Just perform this on your camera and let me know your observation. You dont have to click any pictures for this.

Just focus a camera to an area quite away to a light source (say tube light). Now move the camera to focus the tube light. Did the overall brightness of the picture you see in the preview screen of the camera decrease?

Now move again and focus something other than the light. Do the brightness of the picture increase?

If the above is true, your camera is adjusting the overall picture brightness in accordance with the focussed object. Any hotos in that mode will not be useful.

And yes, it is hard to showcase anything by photos as vramak says. You can only give a rough idea which I think you already gave.

If you are not able to see the frame, well yes that is a good indication of a good black level. Iam surprised LG could pull in this much in a year's time comparing with their TVs last year.

Will demo and tell. BTW, Any guys in hyd acquired one and willing to give a home demo?

Well i tried what u have said here and yes the image in the screen would change in the display whenever i focused it on my fluorescent lamp and the brightness increased and decreased as you have mentioned.

Also if pictures don't help then i can say one thing about the black levels of this display, i was using the break in slides and i didn't use the slideshow option and toggled my way to the fully black slide, turned off every light source in my room, had my curtains pulled down, and it was night time so it was pitch dark in my room and i noticed something very strange , whenever i shuffled and got to the full black image the display was grey for the intial first second and the bezel was visible in the dark surroundings and then after ~1 seconds it changes colour to fully black and the bezel is not visible anymore, now i don't know if it happens with other people's display as well, but i repeated this for over 10 times and every time the black image was up, the same thing happened, so for me the blacks of this display are really great and call it a flaw of this TV or whatever but i was able to see the difference in blacks and how good they really were because of it.

 

[dotMac]

@Mannu,

From the pic, the match stick looks more detailed when lights are ON. But blacks are better when lights are OFF. The flame color itself has changed. And the match-head has dissolved in the flame.

With Lights ON:

With Lights OFF:

As many pointed out, the lose of detail in 2nd pic could be due to the Camera settings.

Instead of observing the pics, I thought why not ask you directly.
When you see that image in your TV in dark, do you see a lose in detail? Or you see exactly the same amount of detail that you get when lights are ON?

 

[Mannu]

@Mannu,

From the pic, the match stick looks more detailed when lights are ON. But blacks are better when lights are OFF. The flame color itself has changed. And the match-head has dissolved in the flame.

With Lights ON:

With Lights OFF:

As many pointed out, the lose of detail in 2nd pic could be due to the Camera settings.

Instead of observing the pics, I thought why not ask you directly.
When you see that image in your TV in dark, do you see a lose in detail? Or you see exactly the same amount of detail that you get when lights are ON?

I haven't noticed any loss of detail, rather in the dark the image looks more vibrant and the blacks as i have already told are very good, so it is probably my camera, it had quite a lot of options ON in it like vivid contrast and auto WB setting, centre weighted brightness etc. so that can be the probable reason for this.

 

[BLASTO]

it was pitch dark in my room and i noticed something very strange , whenever i shuffled and got to the full black image the display was grey for the intial first second and the bezel was visible in the dark surroundings and then after ~1 seconds it changes colour to fully black and the bezel is not visible anymore,

This is new to LG but samsung and planasonic already has it. One of the most useless features!

To give you a perception of pure black, when the whole screen is black, the TV cuts off power to the panel for the period the full black image remains in the panel. This is hardly useful and hardly encountered in real life viewing.

Have a small enough white circle in the corner of the black image and try it out. The TV will not cut off power to panel this time. That is the true(est) black that the TV can produce.

 

[Mannu]

This is new to LG but samsung and planasonic already has it. One of the most useless features!

To give you a perception of pure black, when the whole screen is black, the TV cuts off power to the panel for the period the full black image remains in the panel. This is hardly useful and hardly encountered in real life viewing.

Have a small enough white circle in the corner of the black image and try it out. The TV will not cut off power to panel this time. That is the true(est) black that the TV can produce.

That is interesting, i was also thinking on the same line, but still i think the display has an above average black level performance, i mean keeping in mind that the blacks being displayed are with contrast, brightness, color etc all set at below 50( i have them at 45) plus with everything in advanced options turned off.

So I can imagine that after the break in period is over they will be pretty good, already ChadB has commented on it's black level performance so what else needs to be said. it was measured at 16Ftl from him which is pretty decent. All i can say is that i am enjoying this set, the size is just awesome, it really draws you in, it is silent as anything, so far no dancing green pixels for me, no buzzing, handles BD playback like a charm, line bleed in menus and when playing ps3 games is evident but that is known to be inherent to the plasma technology so what else can be said about it, all in all good value for money.

And yes about playing games, for the casual gamer the input lag is pretty hard to detect, but it maybe a problem for hard core gamers, i mean for those who like to beat the sh!t out of the controller ( those kind ), for me though i hardly noticed any, but then i am only a casual gamer.

 

[BLASTO]

That is interesting, i was also thinking on the same line, but still i think the display has an above average black level performance, i mean keeping in mind that the blacks being displayed are with contrast, brightness, color etc all set at below 50( i have them at 45) plus with everything in advanced options turned off.

So I can imagine that after the break in period is over they will be pretty good, already ChadB has commented on it's black level performance so what else needs to be said. it was measured at 16Ftl from him which is pretty decent. All i can say is that i am enjoying this set, the size is just awesome, it really draws you in, it is silent as anything, so far no dancing green pixels for me, no buzzing, handles BD playback like a charm, line bleed in menus and when playing ps3 games is evident but that is known to be inherent to the plasma technology so what else can be said about it, all in all good value for money.

And yes about playing games, for the casual gamer the input lag is pretty hard to detect, but it maybe a problem for hard core gamers, i mean for those who like to beat the sh!t out of the controller ( those kind ), for me though i hardly noticed any, but then i am only a casual gamer.

If you are enjoying the set, that is all that matters.

Unfortunately was not able to do a demo this weekend. Will update this thread as soon as Iam able to do a demo. Hyd guys, Anyone got this yet?

 

[Mannu]

Yup i am having a Blast, i watched Avatar on ps3 yesterday and it was awesome, it was so much more better than watching it in the theatre, i have my bed right in front of my setup, perfect viewing distance of 9 feet, and i had all my cushions stuffed up behind my back, pizza ordered from Domino's along with a soft drink, voice connected to my surround sound system, and it was just awesome, it just blew me away.

I am also thinking of installing the bias lights as well but i haven't been able to run into any in the stores or even online , nor do i have any idea of how much wattage would suffice, i am thinking of getting a cheap LED tube lighting made ( like the one's used in and around diwali ), but the color temp is another problem, haven't found any with the color temperature of 6500K, to add to the woes i think no one making lamps in India feels the need to mention ay specs about their product, and i doubt if i will be able to find any, i will post a pic if i do get my hands on one. i would appreciate if any of the guys have had any experience with bias lighting, if you could share it here that would be very helpful.

 

[bnsbhat]

Well if u are asking if i have edited the pics then honestly i haven't done anything to them but the same cannot be said about my camera since i took these pics in auto mode.

Also i totally understand your point of view and i wouldn't want it any other way, as you can see from my earlier posts, i have posted every single detail, so i am also unbiased here, i just want to contribute cos i know how confusing all this can become and if i can help anyone in any way i will be happy to do that, so there is no need to apologise about it, that is the whole point of making this thread, it would make me more than happy to see someone benefit from all of this,

I will post the pic tomorrow, the wallpaper is of a halloween pumpin with a pitch black background and i will take this using manual settings and under controlled light environment. I will post the settings as well so if u think something need to be changed, you can suggest that as well.

P.S --> (This is for all who are reading this thread) i just wanna say that I am not trying to do any kind of marketing for LG or for any other company, neither do i prefer anyone over the other, in my eyes all these companies be it sony, samsung,LG, panasonic or any other for that matter are filled with money mongers, low life, trash people for whom words like honesty, faith, trust don't hold any water, and trust me i have had my share of dealing with these people, and i have perfected my skills of how best to deal with these retards and that is the only reason (hands on experience) i got the replacement set in 1 day straight.

I am just a regular guy who wants to share his experience with all you guys, so that all those interested in buying a HDTV in the near future can maybe avoid the mistakes that i have made.

Thanks for being brutally honest, I am on the look out for info on buying a good Plasma and our good friend Mr. Google brought me to this forum. Have enquired for price quote on LG 42Pj560R and 50Pk550. will get the correct price quote on Monday next. Indication on first one is arrund 42k, none on second yet. Would appreciate views on both.

 

[Mannu]

Thanks for being brutally honest, I am on the look out for info on buying a good Plasma and our good friend Mr. Google brought me to this forum. Have enquired for price quote on LG 42Pj560R and 50Pk550. will get the correct price quote on Monday next. Indication on first one is arrund 42k, none on second yet. Would appreciate views on both.

Now, if you ask me, i would say that it really depends on the person in question about what is his usage going to be, and first thing that has to be done is set the priorities right, so i am going to put it in terms of that only

1. If you are going to watch SD content for the most part ( by most part i mean 70 to 80%) then in that case try whichever set you want it will look like crap only (there are minute differences between different brands about how they show SD content, and TBH they look like crap no matter which brand it is), but now considering that almost all the DTH operator have ventured into HD, so for that you can try this at the store also, it is nearly impossible to find out the difference between full HD and HD ready when both are playing the same HD channel, it might be evident if you have your nose up against the screen of the display but at normal vieiwng ditance it is impossible to see any difference). Also since the HD content will be scaled at 720p or 1080i, atleast for now even in US no channel has started transmission on 1080p, so you can well imagine how long that is going to take for it to happen in INDIA, and by that time technology would have changed also, so it's good too look for a future reliable product but getting lost in the future is also not a good thing. So here the choice would be an HD ready set rather than a Full HD plasma, size will depend on your viewing distance, 42" is perfect for 6 to 8 feet viewing distance, and 50" is perfect for 9 - 11 feet of viewing distance.

2. Now if you are going to game on your ps3 etc for the most part, then there is no substitue for a full HD plasma, and as of now most of the games are being created for 1080p resolution, and also this is where you will really see the difference between HD ready and Full HD. 50PK550 has an input lag of 86ms, and i suppose 560 wouldn't be far behind as well ( i could be wrong about 560) but then if you are really a hardcore, die hard gamer i wouldn't look anywhere other than Panasonic. But if you are short on budget i would go for the 50PK550 and suck up with the input lag thing, cos frankly the extra 8 inches makes all the difference in the world, considering viewing ditance as well.

3. Now if you are going to mostly use the display for watching movies, and you have a blu ray player, or are looking to buy one in the near future (by near future i mean in 2 to 3 months time), or are thinking of buying a media player (WD TV, Xtreamer etc ), plus you are willing to shell out more than 1000 bucks to own a blu ray movie, or have a fast enough connection to download huge amounts of Data, only then would i recommend going for the Full HD plasma, but if you are thinking of running DVD movies then there is no point in spending extra bucks for something that is not going to be used, the 50PK550 handles BD playback at 24p like a charm, it's one of it's huge selling point, and also the difference for BD movie is clearly evident between HD ready and Full HD, so if DVD's are what you are looking at, go for the 42PJ560, if you think you can shell the extra bucks for that movie theatre effect at home then nothing beats a Full HD plasma

Now with that being said, i am going to tell you that you are not going to find any set which is perfect, hell even Kuro's or LED TV's that are priced in lakhs are not perfect, everyone has it's flaws, in the end it has to come down at what you are going to do with it, and that is why i didn't go in the pros and cons of these sets, or a comparison between these sets, because that will be a pointless thing to do, that is like the "kohlu kaa Baihl" thing, you are going to go round and round looking for that perfect display and in the end you will see how much time you have wasted for nothing at all, so first u need to clearly set out in your mind what you will be doing with this display, there is no point in paying extra for something that is never going to be used or is not going to make a difference while watching, also looking to far ahead in the future can be a bad thing also, u can loose sight of the present, so a balanced approach is what does it here, once you have done that half the job is done, you can now narrow your choice down based on your viewing habits and trust me the decision becomes way more easier once you have done that, because the priorities have been set right and now you only have to look what suits you the best, it's similar to buying shoes from somewhere, u can get the best shoes in the world and every brand available at your discretion, with all kind of different shoes like anklets for playing basketball, runners, joggers, spikes, studs etc, but what's the point in looking and inspecting them if they don't fit you or are out of your budget and don't serve your purpose, that is why first thing that you do when buying shoes is u state the purpose for which you require them, then u look for the size, and then you see what suits you the best in that particular shape and size.

P.S: Sorry for being so blunt in my approach, and i know you wanted to know about the pros and cons of these sets, but after reading your choices i remembered where i was a few months back, so all i am trying here is to tell you what happened after months of searching and debating about the pros and cons of every display without getting anywhere in the end, so i want you to avoid that months of time wastage and skip to the part where i realized what was needed to be done which i have already explained above (that is decide the purpose based on your usage, whether u want a Full HD or HD ready display, what size is best for you 42" or 50", for what purpose mostly is the TV going to be used, Gaming or movies, what kind of movies DVD, BD etc.), because quite frankly it's a never ending sea of technology out there, every set will have it's up and down side to it, firstly you have to find out what fits your needs and usage, and then look for what suits you the best among the shortlisted one's and once you have it in sight, don't go looking for other displays, cos quite frankly that's gonna throw you back to square one, once you have it shortlisted just go for it and after it's done grab a pizza or whatever sizzles your tongue, something to drink with it, some nice fluffy pillows, and just enjoy the experience.

 

[idlebrain]

Very well written post. Your post perfectly reflects most of the people's state when buying the Plasma/LCD first time.

 

[bnsbhat]

You are great. you have almost written a thesis there for any potential buyer. I watch EPL through out the year (nearly fanatic about it. Dont have much time on hand to watch movies and for my age I still dont know what ps3 or gaming is

So, thanks to your advice, I am sure i will surely go for 42" and thanks for saving me a tidy sum of money too

 

[Mannu]

You are great. you have almost written a thesis there for any potential buyer. I watch EPL through out the year (nearly fanatic about it. Dont have much time on hand to watch movies and for my age I still dont know what ps3 or gaming is

So, thanks to your advice, I am sure i will surely go for 42" and thanks for saving me a tidy sum of money too

I am glad i could help you out in some way by sharing my experience, that makes me happy too :clapping:

 

[avidyarthy]

Fantastic thesis .......

You look to be as dedicated as BLASTO ..... maybe a shade higher to his levels .... :clapping: for both of you .......

 

[BLASTO]

Now, if you ask me, i would say that it really depends on the person in question about what is his usage going to be, and first thing that has to be done is set the priorities right, so i am going to put it in terms of that only

1. If you are going to watch SD content for the most part ( by most part i mean 70 to 80%) then in that case try whichever set you want it will look like crap only (there are minute differences between different brands about how they show SD content, and TBH they look like crap no matter which brand it is), but now considering that almost all the DTH operator have ventured into HD, so for that you can try this at the store also, it is nearly impossible to find out the difference between full HD and HD ready when both are playing the same HD channel, it might be evident if you have your nose up against the screen of the display but at normal vieiwng ditance it is impossible to see any difference). Also since the HD content will be scaled at 720p or 1080i, atleast for now even in US no channel has started transmission on 1080p, so you can well imagine how long that is going to take for it to happen in INDIA, and by that time technology would have changed also, so it's good too look for a future reliable product but getting lost in the future is also not a good thing. So here the choice would be an HD ready set rather than a Full HD plasma, size will depend on your viewing distance, 42" is perfect for 6 to 8 feet viewing distance, and 50" is perfect for 9 - 11 feet of viewing distance.

2. Now if you are going to game on your ps3 etc for the most part, then there is no substitue for a full HD plasma, and as of now most of the games are being created for 1080p resolution, and also this is where you will really see the difference between HD ready and Full HD. 50PK550 has an input lag of 86ms, and i suppose 560 wouldn't be far behind as well ( i could be wrong about 560) but then if you are really a hardcore, die hard gamer i wouldn't look anywhere other than Panasonic. But if you are short on budget i would go for the 50PK550 and suck up with the input lag thing, cos frankly the extra 8 inches makes all the difference in the world, considering viewing ditance as well.

3. Now if you are going to mostly use the display for watching movies, and you have a blu ray player, or are looking to buy one in the near future (by near future i mean in 2 to 3 months time), or are thinking of buying a media player (WD TV, Xtreamer etc ), plus you are willing to shell out more than 1000 bucks to own a blu ray movie, or have a fast enough connection to download huge amounts of Data, only then would i recommend going for the Full HD plasma, but if you are thinking of running DVD movies then there is no point in spending extra bucks for something that is not going to be used, the 50PK550 handles BD playback at 24p like a charm, it's one of it's huge selling point, and also the difference for BD movie is clearly evident between HD ready and Full HD, so if DVD's are what you are looking at, go for the 42PJ560, if you think you can shell the extra bucks for that movie theatre effect at home then nothing beats a Full HD plasma

Now with that being said, i am going to tell you that you are not going to find any set which is perfect, hell even Kuro's or LED TV's that are priced in lakhs are not perfect, everyone has it's flaws, in the end it has to come down at what you are going to do with it, and that is why i didn't go in the pros and cons of these sets, or a comparison between these sets, because that will be a pointless thing to do, that is like the "kohlu kaa Baihl" thing, you are going to go round and round looking for that perfect display and in the end you will see how much time you have wasted for nothing at all, so first u need to clearly set out in your mind what you will be doing with this display, there is no point in paying extra for something that is never going to be used or is not going to make a difference while watching, also looking to far ahead in the future can be a bad thing also, u can loose sight of the present, so a balanced approach is what does it here, once you have done that half the job is done, you can now narrow your choice down based on your viewing habits and trust me the decision becomes way more easier once you have done that, because the priorities have been set right and now you only have to look what suits you the best, it's similar to buying shoes from somewhere, u can get the best shoes in the world and every brand available at your discretion, with all kind of different shoes like anklets for playing basketball, runners, joggers, spikes, studs etc, but what's the point in looking and inspecting them if they don't fit you or are out of your budget and don't serve your purpose, that is why first thing that you do when buying shoes is u state the purpose for which you require them, then u look for the size, and then you see what suits you the best in that particular shape and size.

P.S: Sorry for being so blunt in my approach, and i know you wanted to know about the pros and cons of these sets, but after reading your choices i remembered where i was a few months back, so all i am trying here is to tell you what happened after months of searching and debating about the pros and cons of every display without getting anywhere in the end, so i want you to avoid that months of time wastage and skip to the part where i realized what was needed to be done which i have already explained above (that is decide the purpose based on your usage, whether u want a Full HD or HD ready display, what size is best for you 42" or 50", for what purpose mostly is the TV going to be used, Gaming or movies, what kind of movies DVD, BD etc.), because quite frankly it's a never ending sea of technology out there, every set will have it's up and down side to it, firstly you have to find out what fits your needs and usage, and then look for what suits you the best among the shortlisted one's and once you have it in sight, don't go looking for other displays, cos quite frankly that's gonna throw you back to square one, once you have it shortlisted just go for it and after it's done grab a pizza or whatever sizzles your tongue, something to drink with it, some nice fluffy pillows, and just enjoy the experience.

:clapping:
Can you put this info as part of a new thread or something? Not many people browze thru these many pages to find this post.

Dint read as it is huge but am sure you did your homework.

 

[Mannu]

Fantastic thesis .......

You look to be as dedicated as BLASTO ..... maybe a shade higher to his levels .... :clapping: for both of you .......

Thanks for the compliment, but i am not even .000...1 % compared to these guys, i just hope to share my experience with my fellow Indians so that someone might benefit from it. Once again thanks for the appreciation shown.

 

[Mannu]

:clapping:
Can you put this info as part of a new thread or something? Not many people browze thru these many pages to find this post.

Dint read as it is huge but am sure you did your homework.

These guys are just being generous, i am sure it doesn't deserve to be posted in a new thread.

 

[illusion_heart]

These guys are just being generous, i am sure it doesn't deserve to be posted in a new thread.

Trust me mannu it really does. Almost everyday there is a soul searching for advice and starting a new thread with same queries worded differently for no reason whatsoever.

Now with the launch of HD channels more the reason for a seperate thread.

 

[Mannu]

Trust me mannu it really does. Almost everyday there is a soul searching for advice and starting a new thread with same queries worded differently for no reason whatsoever.

Now with the launch of HD channels more the reason for a seperate thread.

okay if more people asked for it, i will make another thread otherwise it is still there in this thread for those who think this could help them.

I agree HD channels are gonna confuse a lot of peeps.

 

[bnsbhat]

Go ahead and create a new thread, if you dont mind.
I have been talking to my friend/dealer for LG. He is nudging me towards 50pk550r. He says he has auditioned these TVs and its fanta-bulous!. He does not have a demo piece, since HE cannot afford one. Says he could get one for me at good price. He also informed (he heard-unconfirmed) that these models are directly imported to Bangalore from Korea and that is why the model is not there on LG-India web-site. The 42pj560 and 50pj560 models are being assembled in India and are a bit cheaper models. May get quote on Monday earliest for 50pk550r.

BTW Tata-Sky HD STBs ate not available in this part of the world and no one seems to know or sadly care for them either

 

[Srinivas29]

Mu LG PK550R is manufactured in noida. It is made in India. All the people who had bought this TV with me also have the Tag "Made In India".

Please ask you dealer/friend, is there a way by which we could enable the advanced calibration menu in this TV.