Good call. The Jamo 426 is pathetic IMHO
Pioneer sp-fs52 andrew jones designed now in india
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sandeepmohan
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Cranking them up a little should be done so the loudspeaker driver suspension loosens up a bit. Else, the driver remains right and the burn in process will end up taking much longer than you think.
Thad E Ginathom
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Good. Could find this page for 5.1, how about those who want to buy floor-standers or bookshelves alone for 2.0? They are supposed to be "awesome" value for money!
shriharsha.p
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I just cant believe how many reviews are full of praise for these budget speakers! After aeons of research, I thought I had finalized my first serious HT purchase - I am getting a Yamaha RXV475 receiver and a Polk TSx 150c center channel by the month-end to pair with TSx 440s which will be bought locally. These Pioneers are disruptive to say the least and gave thrown me in a real quandary 
I am now wondering whether it is worth spending the extra dough on the polks as i loved the sound on them. Would much appreciate anyone helping me out with a comparison for a HT designated area of about 16' X 13'.
Thanks
Harsha
I am now wondering whether it is worth spending the extra dough on the polks as i loved the sound on them. Would much appreciate anyone helping me out with a comparison for a HT designated area of about 16' X 13'. Thanks
Harsha
+ 1 Pathetic IMHO too
True that. These are among the best examples for VFM. I heard the previous version of bookshelves in 2.0 at my home powered by Emotiva mini -Ax100. Quite impressive it was.
Add mine too. They are very good.
I am sure Hifimart would be able to sell them in BS or FS pairs if required. If they insist on selling as a package, there's always Ashish of Avenuesound who would gladly sell them all over India with dealer's warranty thrown in.
His customer service is quite impressive. For my floorstanders, the base plate had an issue with the position of the drilled holes. I found another user who's in the US having the exact same issue. Out of the four holes machine-drilled, two of them are off by a few millimeter. Even though I was able to affix it to the speaker by fixing only two screws, since it was a new speaker, I casually mentioned it to Ashish. He promised to get the base plate replaced from Pioneer and is actually going to deliver the new base plate at my place today
Since he imports his speakers from the US, I was not very sure of whether he'd be able to replace the base plate, but he did it! I am sure he has won a customer for life with that service.
The 5.1 would be a good deal for someone who wants the entire set on a budget, but if we go by the reviews from most of the US sites, the subwoofer is average and one can do better if one has the budget. Mind you, the sub complements the rest of the speakers quite beautifully for movies and if you notice, it's discounted in the way the 5.1 are priced.
His customer service is quite impressive. For my floorstanders, the base plate had an issue with the position of the drilled holes. I found another user who's in the US having the exact same issue. Out of the four holes machine-drilled, two of them are off by a few millimeter. Even though I was able to affix it to the speaker by fixing only two screws, since it was a new speaker, I casually mentioned it to Ashish. He promised to get the base plate replaced from Pioneer and is actually going to deliver the new base plate at my place today
Since he imports his speakers from the US, I was not very sure of whether he'd be able to replace the base plate, but he did it! I am sure he has won a customer for life with that service.
The 5.1 would be a good deal for someone who wants the entire set on a budget, but if we go by the reviews from most of the US sites, the subwoofer is average and one can do better if one has the budget. Mind you, the sub complements the rest of the speakers quite beautifully for movies and if you notice, it's discounted in the way the 5.1 are priced.
shriharsha.p
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I need some help from the gurus.
1. Where do i audition the pioneers in (preferably south) Bangalore?
2. How do they hold up against the Polk Tsx440t which I liked? I understand the FS52s have garnered rave reviews but bear in mind that I have a largish living room and will be initially investing only in floorstanders and a center speaker?
3. For my kind of listening, it is important to have bass at low volumes as I live in an apartment and cranking up the volume too much is not an option.
4. How is the pioneer center channel that is matched with the FS52 floorstanders? I assume a Polk 150C would not be timbre matched with the Pios?
Thanks in advance,Harsha
1. Where do i audition the pioneers in (preferably south) Bangalore?
2. How do they hold up against the Polk Tsx440t which I liked? I understand the FS52s have garnered rave reviews but bear in mind that I have a largish living room and will be initially investing only in floorstanders and a center speaker?
3. For my kind of listening, it is important to have bass at low volumes as I live in an apartment and cranking up the volume too much is not an option.
4. How is the pioneer center channel that is matched with the FS52 floorstanders? I assume a Polk 150C would not be timbre matched with the Pios?
Thanks in advance,Harsha
I finally got delivery of my speakers from Avenue Sound.
I was out of town, so the speakers were kept on hold for a month and a half.
Tested them at the New Bombay showroom before taking delivery and they sounded pretty f***ing good!
Got them back home, and they sounded a little flatter. I think I need to place the speakers better, or add some furniture to enhance sound to make them sound like the did in the demo room.
You can easily tell the difference between low quality mp3's and flac's on them. The classical western music 128-192 kbps mp3's I had didn't sound very nice. However, the 320 kbps ones sounded pretty nice, and the few flac's I had sounded awesome.
I've hooked up my XBMC HTPC to the Pioneer VSX 523 AVR I've got powering the speakers. I'd like to use an equaliser to tune the music, but the Pioneer only has options to adjust the bass and treble, and XBMC doesn't have an equaliser. I'm streaming the music through my AMD video cards HDMi out.
Does anyone have any ideas on how to proceed?
I was out of town, so the speakers were kept on hold for a month and a half.
Tested them at the New Bombay showroom before taking delivery and they sounded pretty f***ing good!
Got them back home, and they sounded a little flatter. I think I need to place the speakers better, or add some furniture to enhance sound to make them sound like the did in the demo room.
You can easily tell the difference between low quality mp3's and flac's on them. The classical western music 128-192 kbps mp3's I had didn't sound very nice. However, the 320 kbps ones sounded pretty nice, and the few flac's I had sounded awesome.
I've hooked up my XBMC HTPC to the Pioneer VSX 523 AVR I've got powering the speakers. I'd like to use an equaliser to tune the music, but the Pioneer only has options to adjust the bass and treble, and XBMC doesn't have an equaliser. I'm streaming the music through my AMD video cards HDMi out.
Does anyone have any ideas on how to proceed?
Prakash Kumanan
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You may try The home theatre store located at JP Nagar 7th Phase or reliance digital on bannerghatta road diagonally opp. meenakshi mall. However please make sure you call them and then land up for auditioning on availability.
MJ23Bulls
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+1.
By the way, I always wonder that our *Music" volume is always found too noisy by our neighbors in general just because they don't listen to what we listen in tandem.
But during a popular tv serial or a program like super singer et al, I can mute my tv and still listen easily, that too with full stereo surround effects from neighboring flats. In general, if you're the odd one out, you're noticed.
You may check with DNI , in outer ring road near Bellandur
Chief it's same every where .in my building I face similar problem neighbors can play idiotic serials at loud noise than there is no effect because at same time the same or other serials are going on in surround flats but if u play ur music at normal volume than they feel it's noise pollution.
spirovious
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Neighbors are not sitting/present in sweet listening spot and wont understand how much we can feel the music.
Hello all, apart from Andrew Jones there is todoroki speakers of three category.
SP-7735TT, SP-3335TT, SP-E335XT. While specification on paper all are same, so my question is what make differance in it.
Which one is best for movie purpose, also the supporting avr for any one of this paclage,
Please throw some lights...
Thnx
SP-7735TT, SP-3335TT, SP-E335XT. While specification on paper all are same, so my question is what make differance in it.
Which one is best for movie purpose, also the supporting avr for any one of this paclage,
Please throw some lights...
Thnx
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I've had my SP-FS52 speakers for a couple of months now and I think they're great!
They didn't sound amazing to me when I'd just gotten them (though they sounded fantastic when I demoed them before taking delivery), but that could have been because my music was primarily on 128-192kbps mp3's. Or because the acoustics in my living room are terrible. The bass was boomy, and I sometimes thought that the speakers weren't playing the low frequency sounds. The upper range also sounded a bit harsh.
Sometimes the speakers sounded really good, and sometimes not.
I got some lossless music and that sounded a lot better, but it wasn't anything like the experience I had in the demo room.
I'd connected the speakers to my Pioneer VSX-523 AVR, and wondered if that may have been the weak link. But then, the same set-up sounded great while taking a demo.
I hadn't used the speakers or AVR to watch movies, but when I finally did watch some I was blown away. These speakers may not have sounded very musical in the beginning, but they made movies come alive.
I usually watch movies in my small office/computer/gaming room on my computer, playing back audio on my 5.1 creative speakers.
While my 2 channel set-up in the living room couldn't replicate the 5.1 set-up for positional audio, it did a damn good job of throwing sound. I did get a surround sound experience, with roars and gun-shots coming at me from my sides.
And the clarity of the dialogue was exceptional. The bass was fantastic, and I kept playing back scenes with cars racing, or helicopters flying in them.
Movies tend to get loud very suddenly and then soft again, and I found myself listening to the speakers at louder volumes than I had so far. (Though, at no point did I ever cross the 50% mark)
I watched a few movies, and then got back to listening to music, and suddenly the speakers sounded a lot better!
I guess the speakers needed to be broken in. And my playing music at about 30% amplification just wasn't giving them what they needed. The gun-shots, and explosions did though, and the speakers now sound more open, and less harsh.
I've got constraints as to where I can place the speakers in my room, and usually have them about 8 inches from the wall.
Today while cleaning out my computer, I came across a booklet I'd downloaded about speaker placement, and after perusing it, decided it was time to move my speakers a bit forward and see how that affected the sound.
I moved them so that they were about 3 feet away from the back wall, and played some music. What a revelation that was! The SP-FS52's now sounded a lot better. The bass didn't boom, it was much more controlled. And the soundstage improved dramatically.
I moved the sofa ( the one facing the speakers) 6 inches away from the wall, and was rewarded by yet another improvement in sound quality.
Before I moved the speakers forward, I could notice the soundstage in some tracks, but not in most. After moving them forward, I feel that sound isn't coming from the speakers, but from the entire front listening area, and it keeps moving depending on which instruments being played.
It isn't as good as some of the experiences I had while demoing speakers, where once, I could almost picture an entire orchestra playing in front of me, but it's not bad.
My rooms got lots of reflective surfaces, hardly any furniture, is open on one side, and has French windows on the other. I need to place a few plants, and some other audio-diffusers/absorbers to get audio to sound better.
However, the little things I've done so far, moving the speakers and sofa forward, adding a thick lining to my curtains, and putting a carpet in have shown me what my speakers, and well, the AVR too, the Pioneer SP-FS-52s, and the 523-k are capable of.
I don't think I've quite broken in my speakers yet, they seem to sound better every day.
This is the first set of decent AV equipment that I've owned, so I can't make comparisions, but to my ears they sound pretty f******* good.
I listen to western classical, rock, hard-rock, pop, trance, country and folk, and it all rocks!
They didn't sound amazing to me when I'd just gotten them (though they sounded fantastic when I demoed them before taking delivery), but that could have been because my music was primarily on 128-192kbps mp3's. Or because the acoustics in my living room are terrible. The bass was boomy, and I sometimes thought that the speakers weren't playing the low frequency sounds. The upper range also sounded a bit harsh.
Sometimes the speakers sounded really good, and sometimes not.
I got some lossless music and that sounded a lot better, but it wasn't anything like the experience I had in the demo room.
I'd connected the speakers to my Pioneer VSX-523 AVR, and wondered if that may have been the weak link. But then, the same set-up sounded great while taking a demo.
I hadn't used the speakers or AVR to watch movies, but when I finally did watch some I was blown away. These speakers may not have sounded very musical in the beginning, but they made movies come alive.
I usually watch movies in my small office/computer/gaming room on my computer, playing back audio on my 5.1 creative speakers.
While my 2 channel set-up in the living room couldn't replicate the 5.1 set-up for positional audio, it did a damn good job of throwing sound. I did get a surround sound experience, with roars and gun-shots coming at me from my sides.
And the clarity of the dialogue was exceptional. The bass was fantastic, and I kept playing back scenes with cars racing, or helicopters flying in them.
Movies tend to get loud very suddenly and then soft again, and I found myself listening to the speakers at louder volumes than I had so far. (Though, at no point did I ever cross the 50% mark)
I watched a few movies, and then got back to listening to music, and suddenly the speakers sounded a lot better!
I guess the speakers needed to be broken in. And my playing music at about 30% amplification just wasn't giving them what they needed. The gun-shots, and explosions did though, and the speakers now sound more open, and less harsh.
I've got constraints as to where I can place the speakers in my room, and usually have them about 8 inches from the wall.
Today while cleaning out my computer, I came across a booklet I'd downloaded about speaker placement, and after perusing it, decided it was time to move my speakers a bit forward and see how that affected the sound.
I moved them so that they were about 3 feet away from the back wall, and played some music. What a revelation that was! The SP-FS52's now sounded a lot better. The bass didn't boom, it was much more controlled. And the soundstage improved dramatically.
I moved the sofa ( the one facing the speakers) 6 inches away from the wall, and was rewarded by yet another improvement in sound quality.
Before I moved the speakers forward, I could notice the soundstage in some tracks, but not in most. After moving them forward, I feel that sound isn't coming from the speakers, but from the entire front listening area, and it keeps moving depending on which instruments being played.
It isn't as good as some of the experiences I had while demoing speakers, where once, I could almost picture an entire orchestra playing in front of me, but it's not bad.
My rooms got lots of reflective surfaces, hardly any furniture, is open on one side, and has French windows on the other. I need to place a few plants, and some other audio-diffusers/absorbers to get audio to sound better.
However, the little things I've done so far, moving the speakers and sofa forward, adding a thick lining to my curtains, and putting a carpet in have shown me what my speakers, and well, the AVR too, the Pioneer SP-FS-52s, and the 523-k are capable of.
I don't think I've quite broken in my speakers yet, they seem to sound better every day.
This is the first set of decent AV equipment that I've owned, so I can't make comparisions, but to my ears they sound pretty f******* good.
I listen to western classical, rock, hard-rock, pop, trance, country and folk, and it all rocks!
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I auditioned the pioneer todoroki speaker package in the 35-40k range and it was pure junk.
Does the FS52 sound completely orthogonal to its sibling? Because I am seeing good reviews here and am wondering how.
Does the FS52 sound completely orthogonal to its sibling? Because I am seeing good reviews here and am wondering how.
spirovious
Well-Known Member
Yes they sound totally different.I hear both series and Andrew Johns designed speakers are VFM.
Andrew Jones is now designing a new coaxial speaker for Pioneer which is going to be placed a bit higher than the FS52/BS22 range. These would be launched around the end of June. No other details have been shared as of now except the picture of the driver itself.
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