Plasma/LED?? Please help

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Hi there-

I'm planning to buy a 40-incher but am not sure whether an LED or a plasma is a better buy. I've done some research and am aware that plasma consumes more power and is perhaps cheaper than LEDs, although I'm not sure of the picture quality..black and white levels.

Please feel free to suggest if I also need to look at Plasma TVs

I have checked out the Samsung LED 40D5000 and Sony Bravia KR40..if there any other models that you would recommend in Panasonic/Toshiba, please feel free to do so..
 
PLASMA TV will be the best VFM. Samsung PS43D490 3D is a good option for 40k. Else Panasonic has 42X30 for 2D. 42ST/UT30 for 3D.
 
PS51D550 vs D6000 which is better?

I am very tempted to go for PS51D550 from this forum reviews for that TV. But I have not seen demo... I went to near by samsung dealer for demo, they didn't have D550, they had Plasma 4 series (490) I guess. I think they don't want to sell plasma TVs :( he was asking to look at D6000 and D6600 and telling that plasma is old technology :(
 
Samsung PS51D550 is one of the best 3DTV's in the market and is also vfm and has cheap and light 3d glasses and it is one of the only plasmas in the market to output led like brightness (160 nits). It is available for as low as 63k or even lower in some places.

Buy it without any second thoughts unless you want to spend extra and go for panasonic vt20(60 nits brightness and is 2010 model) or st30(105 nits brightness and costs min 85k) and want to spend even more on expensive infrared 3d glasses.

You can get 51D550 demo in Devi International Jaynagar. Contact our forum member prankey before going there as he can get you the best price.
 
Thanks for the reply....

will go and have a demo on PS51D550 on this weekend :yahoo: . After that I will contact Prankey for best price ... I hope it should be 63K :clapping: .. as you all bought in group buy .
 
This forum, in my views, misleads many buyers in recommending plasma tv.

I am a owner of Panasonic plasma tv, V20D.

I recommend LED (LED Backlit) TV for general purpose use. If you are looking for a TV just for watching movies, especially, through a media player, plasma TV may be better.

Image burn-in is still a real thing, if you challenge, please come to my home, I will show you all the logos.
 
Buying a plasma tv has its share of advantages and limitations. It is a very educated purchase and one must be prepared to follow certain precautions to overcome its limitations.

IR/Burn-in is a real thing even now but it can be easily avoided by 200 hours break-in and smart usage pattern thereafter. Also proper calibration is necessary and running a plasma in torch mode with all high contrast brightness and running channels with prominent logos for hours together will increase the risk.
 
i recently bought plasma...touch wood till now i haven't seen IR on my plasma...lets hope for the best...
btw..i was wondering if IR was such serious issue why still there are millions of new buyers of plasma sets.. with slim and sleek leds in the market plasmas should have been extinct by now..

if majority of users had burnin, then companies would have seriously stopped making these sets....besides if used properly rare burnin can be avoided...
Most Leds launched till now are not perfect either...they suffer from technology limitations like bad artifacts with fast moving objects, viewing angle restriction, worse black levels etc

although i have to agree, that, those who are not bothered about detail, less demanding, casual viewing customers, Leds are the way to go....

PS:according to me in tv market, Plasmas are like Royal Enfeilds and Leds are like Bajaj Pulsars...in automotive industry.lol...:ohyeah:

This forum, in my views, misleads many buyers in recommending plasma tv.

I am a owner of Panasonic plasma tv, V20D.

I recommend LED (LED Backlit) TV for general purpose use. If you are looking for a TV just for watching movies, especially, through a media player, plasma TV may be better.

Image burn-in is still a real thing, if you challenge, please come to my home, I will show you all the logos.
 
IR is not much of a problem and does not affect PQ adversely, it is hardly even visible unless one looks out for it. Also IR only occurs in certain cases. It goes off soon after switching to other content or running scrolling.

As far as burn-in is concerned, companies have invested a lot to increase the life of phosphors in plasma tv and hence permanent burn-in is near impossible in newer plasmas.

One has to understand that temporary IR and permanent burn-in are totally different. Permanent burn-in means one part of the screen pixels have aged quicker and are no longer able to produce proper image and hence give a ghost or halo like image. Newer plasma phosphors have around 600k hours life and hence burn-in is near impossible atleast for 10 years :)
 
Hi there-

I'm planning to buy a 40-incher but am not sure whether an LED or a plasma is a better buy. I've done some research and am aware that plasma consumes more power and is perhaps cheaper than LEDs, although I'm not sure of the picture quality..black and white levels.

Please feel free to suggest if I also need to look at Plasma TVs

I have checked out the Samsung LED 40D5000 and Sony Bravia KR40..if there any other models that you would recommend in Panasonic/Toshiba, please feel free to do so..

Hi, there are some good comments in the forum but I guess you must feel confused. Let me try to simplify. Plasma will give you the best pic quality for the price be it black levels, contrast, colour accuracy, wide angle viewing, etc. You would have to pay more with LED/LCD to get the same pic quality. Having said that what would be the main criteria would be ambient lighting. Plasma really comes alive in dark ambient lighting just like a movie theatre. If there is a lot of light or reflection that would really affect the plasma pic quality. But if I were you, I would still go with plasma and then work on the lighting, if required.

Panasonic make the best plasmas..............only if you buy them with neo pdp panels. Unfortunately entry level panasonic plasmas are not neo pdp. Only the VT, V, S, ST, G, GT are. The U and X series do not have neo pdp panels. If this is not possible then go with Samsung, they make the best value for money plasmas. They are a lot better than the Pan U or X series.

all the best!!!
 
Hi, there are some good comments in the forum but I guess you must feel confused. Let me try to simplify. Plasma will give you the best pic quality for the price be it black levels, contrast, colour accuracy, wide angle viewing, etc. You would have to pay more with LED/LCD to get the same pic quality. Having said that what would be the main criteria would be ambient lighting. Plasma really comes alive in dark ambient lighting just like a movie theatre. If there is a lot of light or reflection that would really affect the plasma pic quality. But if I were you, I would still go with plasma and then work on the lighting, if required.

Panasonic make the best plasmas..............only if you buy them with neo pdp panels. Unfortunately entry level panasonic plasmas are not neo pdp. Only the VT, V, S, ST, G, GT are. The U and X series do not have neo pdp panels. If this is not possible then go with Samsung, they make the best value for money plasmas. They are a lot better than the Pan U or X series.

all the best!!!

I have personally checked Samsung / SONY / panasonic / toshiba
and my pref is
1) panasonic
2) toshiba
3) SONY
Samsung is bowled out as the picture is quite artificial. If you watch a cricket match played in chinnaswamy stadium, the grass will look like 'lords' ground. its all artificial. Samsung is good for computer monitors and not for TVs

yes, plasma is definitely good compared to LCD and LED.

In the showroom, keep the TVs of your choice nearby and play only HD channels like discovery or HBO. keep the contrast / brightness to level 60 in all the TVs, keep the volume MUTE and check the video 1by 1. The sales rep in shop will keep the picture settings in such a way, the customer will choose a particular brand by default.
 
Please dont get me wrong...I am not saying this because I now own UT30,
But I couldnt stop myself from correcting this...
FullHD Panasonic UT30 3D...even without NeoPDP panel..is Highly Superior in all aspects of PQ to Samsung 43 inch 3D HD ready grainy plasmas(leave alone the 51incher) PS:I do agree that NeoPDP makes a difference, but only majorly by reducing screen reflections....and lowering power consumption..and also i agree that Samsung Plasmas are not at all bad by any stretch of imagination..they are infact more Value for money than panasonics...

Any person seeing any of the fullhd Panasonic plasmas and Samsung D450/D490 side by side with same source Video will know what I am speaking....if you compare with D550 then the case may be slightly different....

Panasonic make the best plasmas..............only if you buy them with neo pdp panels. Unfortunately entry level panasonic plasmas are not neo pdp. Only the VT, V, S, ST, G, GT are. The U and X series do not have neo pdp panels. If this is not possible then go with Samsung, they make the best value for money plasmas. They are a lot better than the Pan U or X series.

all the best!!!
 
Please dont get me wrong...I am not saying this because I now own UT30,
But I couldnt stop myself from correcting this...
FullHD Panasonic UT30 3D...even without NeoPDP panel..is Highly Superior in all aspects of PQ to Samsung 43 inch 3D HD ready grainy plasmas(leave alone the 51incher) PS:I do agree that NeoPDP makes a difference, but only majorly by reducing screen reflections....and lowering power consumption..and also i agree that Samsung Plasmas are not at all bad by any stretch of imagination..they are infact more Value for money than panasonics...

Any person seeing any of the fullhd Panasonic plasmas and Samsung D450/D490 side by side with same source Video will know what I am speaking....if you compare with D550 then the case may be slightly different....

I think you got a bad demo.
I've been there and done that..

Samsung has no FHD 42" but the D450 and D550 handles motion pretty well than the U30. Upscaling is also better in the samsung.

I have low end samsung B450 and high end panasonic VT20 at home. Never saw grains extra in the samsung which is not present in the VT20 with SAME source and SAME material.
 
I think we should not bring VT20 in btw especially while speaking about supposedly low end ones..honestly haven't demoed B450, hence cant say,either way i guess in this case we are speaking about D450 and D490 and let us not touch the whole FHD and HD Ready thing....

I have done endless demos in multiple showrooms for months together with my USB Stick with multiple movies and varied resolutions.....after days and endless hours of comparisons with multiple sources..offline and online...
besides there are plethora of reviews on internet as well by professionals....with SAME opinion...
anyways...I would just suggest any person to demo himself and observe these points to know the facts....


I think you got a bad demo.
I've been there and done that..

Samsung has no FHD 42" but the D450 and D550 handles motion pretty well than the U30. Upscaling is also better in the samsung.

I have low end samsung B450 and high end panasonic VT20 at home. Never saw grains extra in the samsung which is not present in the VT20 with SAME source and SAME material.
 
This forum, in my views, misleads many buyers in recommending plasma tv.

I am a owner of Panasonic plasma tv, V20D.

I recommend LED (LED Backlit) TV for general purpose use. If you are looking for a TV just for watching movies, especially, through a media player, plasma TV may be better.

Image burn-in is still a real thing, if you challenge, please come to my home, I will show you all the logos.

I am not sure how you ended up getting all channel logos whichever you see.

I have Panasonic Plasma C10 purchased in Oct 2009. I took all care for 1 month with keeping 40% contrast etc. After than I calibrated it and re-calibrated again after 6 months using pattern generators. Picture is still top quality producing all color and contrast levels. Nothing changed, I verified again few days back.

I do not control any channel usage, still no burn-in happened. My son plays game over that for max 1 hr once/twice in a month. This is measly. Still I fear for that burn-in and avoid stand-still images by activating screen saver in all devices including xtreamer and TV itself (power saver mode). You have to take care of plasma panel whatever technology claims. Burn in was true with CRT also.

If you can take precautions then buy Plasma. Otherwise if you want to forget this then buy LCD/LED.
 
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