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Hi

While I wait for my rig to reach me I have been trying to read up on how to set it up to make it sound good

From your pic and description of your room (and my so far entirely theoretical understanding, and also hope that 2605s do hi fi things like soundstage etyadi) may I suggest you take a look at these resources

Room acoustics for home audio

Speaker Placement

[audio physic] - no loss of fine detail

Speaker PLACEMENT / Set Up / POSITION Loudspeakers ADVICE Room SHAPE ACOUSTICS

Optimizing the Sound of Your Room | Articles | Polk Audio

and ofc this thread http://www.hifivision.com/av-lounge/49532-speaker-positioning.html#post562934 thread

edit: added the uhoh watchout

So, you spent money and exerted time and effort for a good setup, but you're not hearing a sound stage. The cause for a lack of a sound stage may not be your gear and setup. Try some recordings that aren't multi-tracked and multi-miked. Classical and Jazz recordings tend to be made this way. This probably explains why Classical and Jazz fans usually report about the sound stage they experience. Try a recording that brags about it's minimalist approach to recording. You may just hear that sound stage that you're thinking your gear won't reproduce.

Most recordings have good to excellent imaging. That is they have a nice left to right spread of musicians. Unfortunately most of those same recordings have little to no sound stage. That is, they have little to no depth. Many of those that have a small sense of depth have a cardboard cutout sound to the performers. This is probably caused by the recording engineer attempting to add imaging to a multi-tracked studio recording by manipulating reverb and time delay.

Very few multi-tracked studio recordings have much, if any kind of sound-stage. I believe this is why many have never heard of or can't achieve a good sound stage. It's not necessarily your system, speakers or set up. It's the recordings you listen too. A good rule of thumb is; The more multi-tracking and studio massaging, the less sound stage. Recordings that are done with minimal miking and little to no studio "massaging" usually have some kind of a soundstage. For good examples of this, listen to any direct to disc LP or any Groove Note recording.

If your system is set up using the standard positioning, setup tricks, tweaks and techniques and you're not hearing a sound stage look to your recordings as the reason. 90+% of rock and pop studio recordings have no real sound stage. The multi-tracking and studio sweetening makes a sound stage all but impossible to achieve. Changing or swapping your gear will have far less effect than selecting recordings that actually have a sound stage to reproduce.

If you want to hear a good sound stage try listening to any recording done with a minimum number of microphones and little to no studio mastering, mixing, re-mastering and re-mixing. All that studio "sweetening" sours what little sound stage that may be there.

Try some Jazz (not smooth Jazz) or Classical. Recordings of these two types of music tend to be done all at once (no overdubbing) with a minimal number of microphones. Listening to either of these two types of music makes you more liable to hear a soundstage. This is because these recordings actually have a soundstage, whereas rock and pop recordings just don't.

Imaging is IMO left right spread of musicians. Every system ever made can do this. A sound stage adds depth to the imaging. Only well set up systems do it well.

You can have imaging without a sound stage but not the reverse.


ciao
gr
 
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Hi

While I wait for my rig to reach me I have been trying to read up on how to set it up to make it sound good

From your pic and description of your room (and my so far entirely theoretical understanding, and also hope that 2605s do hi fi things like soundstage etyadi) may I suggest you take a look at these resources

Room acoustics for home audio

Speaker Placement

[audio physic] - no loss of fine detail

Speaker PLACEMENT / Set Up / POSITION Loudspeakers ADVICE Room SHAPE ACOUSTICS

Optimizing the Sound of Your Room | Articles | Polk Audio

and ofc this thread http://www.hifivision.com/av-lounge/49532-speaker-positioning.html#post562934 thread

edit: added the uhoh watchout

So, you spent money and exerted time and effort for a good setup, but you're not hearing a sound stage. The cause for a lack of a sound stage may not be your gear and setup. Try some recordings that aren't multi-tracked and multi-miked. Classical and Jazz recordings tend to be made this way. This probably explains why Classical and Jazz fans usually report about the sound stage they experience. Try a recording that brags about it's minimalist approach to recording. You may just hear that sound stage that you're thinking your gear won't reproduce.

Most recordings have good to excellent imaging. That is they have a nice left to right spread of musicians. Unfortunately most of those same recordings have little to no sound stage. That is, they have little to no depth. Many of those that have a small sense of depth have a cardboard cutout sound to the performers. This is probably caused by the recording engineer attempting to add imaging to a multi-tracked studio recording by manipulating reverb and time delay.

Very few multi-tracked studio recordings have much, if any kind of sound-stage. I believe this is why many have never heard of or can't achieve a good sound stage. It's not necessarily your system, speakers or set up. It's the recordings you listen too. A good rule of thumb is; The more multi-tracking and studio massaging, the less sound stage. Recordings that are done with minimal miking and little to no studio "massaging" usually have some kind of a soundstage. For good examples of this, listen to any direct to disc LP or any Groove Note recording.

If your system is set up using the standard positioning, setup tricks, tweaks and techniques and you're not hearing a sound stage look to your recordings as the reason. 90+% of rock and pop studio recordings have no real sound stage. The multi-tracking and studio sweetening makes a sound stage all but impossible to achieve. Changing or swapping your gear will have far less effect than selecting recordings that actually have a sound stage to reproduce.

If you want to hear a good sound stage try listening to any recording done with a minimum number of microphones and little to no studio mastering, mixing, re-mastering and re-mixing. All that studio "sweetening" sours what little sound stage that may be there.

Try some Jazz (not smooth Jazz) or Classical. Recordings of these two types of music tend to be done all at once (no overdubbing) with a minimal number of microphones. Listening to either of these two types of music makes you more liable to hear a soundstage. This is because these recordings actually have a soundstage, whereas rock and pop recordings just don't.

Imaging is IMO left right spread of musicians. Every system ever made can do this. A sound stage adds depth to the imaging. Only well set up systems do it well.

You can have imaging without a sound stage but not the reverse.


ciao
gr

Wow!! That was pretty informative.. But i do have some questions.

When you say minimal miking, you mean instruments recorded through the mic?
And if its Indian classical music then most of the instruments will be recorded through the mic.. Is it not?

Which gear did you buy??
 
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