Synology Post GST?

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Do you know the cheapest expansion bay is 5 BAY and is even more costly than the NAS itself. DX513 is 100+USD more than your DS416Play.

Again IMHO , 416J can host/support a whopping 10TB HDD, spend in upgrading the Hardrive than getting a much costlier NAS like 916+ and then an expansion bay, which is almost the same price of 916+ and on the top of that purchase 4-6 TB HDD to fill it. Does not make sense.

If you will do a quick calculation, getting 10TB HDD on 416play will land you cheaper than 916+ and expansion bay and wall filled with 4TB hard drives, and you will get more TB(storage) as well

I think you do make a lot of sense. I have sent an email to EBM asking for their price for 416j play. Though I must tell you that I do have two Synology formatted 10TB HDD (hope I won't have to reformat). And two fresh 10TBs waiting for the new diskstation. My space needs are enormous. From the moment I shoot a film, I need to keep the rushes for 3 years. I intend to keep it on this for at least a year and a half. Digital rush can amount from 1TB upwards. This is of course, apart from more than 15 years of movie and reference material collection.

I know the expansion unit is expensive but just seemed a sleeker solution with extra 10TB. And as you may have noticed I do not indulge too much when you guys talk chippers and CPU. I watched and read rave reviews of the Pentium inside 916+, was enough to be influenced.


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[TCHeN]

From the moment I shoot a film, I need to keep the rushes for 3 years.

Are you into movies and TV?

Anyways just wanted to give you a heads up that a NAS (even a Synology) is not a backup guaranteed device. If a HDD or two crash, you will lose data... unless its classic RAID 1.

So always have 2 or more backups... I've 2 secondary NASes just for backup.

 

[sam9s]

I think you do make a lot of sense. I have sent an email to EBM asking for their price for 416j play. Though I must tell you that I do have two Synology formatted 10TB HDD (hope I won't have to reformat). And two fresh 10TBs waiting for the new diskstation. My space needs are enormous. From the moment I shoot a film, I need to keep the rushes for 3 years. I intend to keep it on this for at least a year and a half. Digital rush can amount from 1TB upwards. This is of course, apart from more than 15 years of movie and reference material collection.

I know the expansion unit is expensive but just seemed a sleeker solution with extra 10TB. And as you may have noticed I do not indulge too much when you guys talk chippers and CPU. I watched and read rave reviews of the Pentium inside 916+, was enough to be influenced.


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Now you are venturing into the realms of professional work, and I thought all this will be used as a Home NAS. When using it in a profession, rules and consideration start to differ. Also, I think you need more a backup solution than a NAS, wherein you can keep stashing your footage for editing and all at a later stage. Correct me if I am wrong.
I would rather seek into more professional NAS solution from DELL if I were you, I mean if its all for Audio Video Movie Profession. I would consider something like DELL Edge Server with DAS like PowerVault MD series, but that would land pretty expensive BUT, IT THE solution for High-level Audio Video editing AND high-end storage with industrial grade backup and security solution.

Anyway, that's just a recommendation. Coming to Synology, if you are going to fill the expansion bay with 10TB as well then I guess getting an expansion bay might be more beneficial to you, considering price ain't a factor and all you need is space n space ...

 

[sam9s]

If a HDD or two crash, you will lose data... unless its classic RAID 1.

So always have 2 or more backups... I've 2 secondary NASes just for backup.

No , not with Synology SHR-two disk protection. With SHR, any two disks, if fail you can easily recover data by just replacing it with a new one. Yes if you loose 3 disks out of 4 at the same time (which is like highly improbable), then you will loose data. I have done it and it super easy 2-3 step procedure ...

What you are saying is kinda disaster recovery solution, where in one complete site goes bad, could be due to any reason, like assuming one Synology unit is one site, and god forbids it falls down from 2 floor or lightining sticks and burns the whole unit, or your house burns down, then you have to have a backup at second location and preferably not on the same site as the first one ......

 

[TCHeN]

No , not with Synology SHR-two disk protection. With SHR, any two disks, if fail you can easily recover data by just replacing it with a new one. Yes if you loose 3 disks out of 4 at the same time (which is like highly improbable), then you will loose data. I have done it and it super easy 2-3 step procedure ...

What you are saying is kinda disaster recovery solution, where in one complete site goes bad, could be due to any reason, like assuming one Synology unit is one site, and god forbids it falls down from 2 floor or lightining sticks and burns the whole unit, or your house burns down, then you have to have a backup at second location and preferably not on the same site as the first one ......

Learned from experience... high power voltage surge resulted in data loss that could not be recovered.

Now I use a NAS that is also synced to a cloud service and then another backup option that is offline i.e. DVDs or external HDDs or even a NAS that goes offline after running backups.

Like you say, a fire or an electrical surge would destroy all data. An online, an offline, and a cloud backup working together are a better solution, especially if the data is precious.

 

[sam9s]

Learned from experience... high power voltage surge resulted in data loss that could not be recovered.
Like you say, a fire or an electrical surge would destroy all data. An online, an offline, and a cloud backup working together are a better solution, especially if the data is precious.

Yep thats DR ... I rest my case. That is actually rare too rare for the efforts unless its mission critical data like Nuke Launch Codes ....

 

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Anyways just wanted to give you a heads up that a NAS (even a Synology) is not a backup guaranteed device. If a HDD or two crash, you will lose data... unless its classic RAID 1.

So always have 2 or more backups... I've 2 secondary NASes just for backup.

Let me explain. Raw footage is fundamentally kept at two places. We pay a professional studio for storage as well as usage on their machines. Then, there is a well documented and stored single external HDD that's allocated to each project. So the NAS, would be the third back up.

Now you are venturing into the realms of professional work, and I thought all this will be used as a Home NAS. When using it in a profession, rules and consideration start to differ. Also, I think you need more a backup solution than a NAS, wherein you can keep stashing your footage for editing and all at a later stage. Correct me if I am wrong.
I would rather seek into more professional NAS solution from DELL if I were you, I mean if its all for Audio Video Movie Profession. I would consider something like DELL Edge Server with DAS like PowerVault MD series, but that would land pretty expensive BUT, IT THE solution for High-level Audio Video editing AND high-end storage with industrial grade backup and security solution.

Anyway, that's just a recommendation. Coming to Synology, if you are going to fill the expansion bay with 10TB as well then I guess getting an expansion bay might be more beneficial to you, considering price ain't a factor and all you need is space n space ...

I am looking at Synology for a bit of both. When I have the rushes at home, and my client needs an edit. I save time by quickly checking the rushes and directing my editor for a particular edit. I do not edit myself. Second, after I shoot a film, if I have access to raw footage, I don't waste time in the edit studio going through all the footage again. This saves time and in this case time is money; that too in an hourly basis. Also, it gives me downtime with my footage without anybody breathing down my neck. I don't need it for editing or any heavy duty task, that's all done in a professional studio.

Money is always a factor my friend. But in this case, I don't think I truly have an option. But thank you both for your suggestions, it made me think and weigh.

But finally, my original question: Will the price of Synology go up or down after GST? And an additional question; will customs duty rise or stay the same?

 

[sam9s]

But finally, my original question: Will the price of Synology go up or down after GST? And an additional question; will customs duty rise or stay the same?

No Idea.. I am the last person who would have an ans to this Query. Maybe someone who understands economics better can ans ..