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[malvai]

Ascendo is a fantastic product... congrats sidvee...

 

[heliumflight]

Lovely!

Are the center ones in white, diffusers & bass Traps?

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Helium
Asus Xonar STX + Bottlehead Foreplay III + Lyrita Audio SET 6C33C + Vintage Acoustic Research AR2ax + Lyrita cables = Nirvana

 

[square_wave]

Interesting speaker. Is the rear-mounted Magnetostat doing support or is it the main source of music above 2.2 kHz ?

Lovely setup !!

 

[sidvee]

Lovely!

Are the center ones in white, diffusers & bass Traps?

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Helium
Asus Xonar STX + Bottlehead Foreplay III + Lyrita Audio SET 6C33C + Vintage Acoustic Research AR2ax + Lyrita cables = Nirvana

Thank you Helium. The 4 panels in the ctr. are what is described by vicoustics as " acoustic properties of the wood and foam combined with non-linear sequential cavities that enable Wave Wood to act as both an absorber and diffuser. It is particularly effective in treating medium and high frequencies as well as solving issues such as flutter echoes".
Practically, they replaced 2 echobuster panels which I had previously and to my ears they have opened up the sound stage more and I feel the sound is more expansive. I also like their aesthetics better than regular panels.
Cheers,
Sid

 

[sidvee]

Interesting speaker. Is the rear-mounted Magnetostat doing support or is it the main source of music above 2.2 kHz ?

Lovely setup !!

Thanks Square - As I understand the rear mounted ribbon tweeter is only for ambience. There is switch to turn it on and off, so I don't believe it acts as a main or super tweeter though the specs claim high frequency response to -3db at 32khz (perhaps this a summed response of both tweeters). However practically speaking it has superb high frequency response - enough for cymbal strike shimmer/decay as good as my previous Harbeth shl5 which did have a super tweeter and claimed freq response upto 40khz.
Cheers,
Sid

 

[sidvee]

My 2nd system located in my bedroom. Recently acquired the older model ATC SCM7. Having owned the the SCM19, these are equally good if not better in imaging and staging. Within their low frequency limitation these are superb speakers. I am thoroughly enjoying music in my bedroom. Currently using the meridian explorer DAC, soon to be replaced with a Line magnetic DAC.
Cheers,
Sid

 

[mpw]

good pic sidvee..

they will do better on stands and it is only then that the imaging / soundstage etc... etc... will be really heard.

These are wonderful speakers and deserve better but if there are space issues and the owner is happy... then no problemo..

njoi !!

regards
mpw

 

[sidvee]

good pic sidvee..

they will do better on stands and it is only then that the imaging / soundstage etc... etc... will be really heard.

These are wonderful speakers and deserve better but if there are space issues and the owner is happy... then no problemo..

njoi !!

regards
mpw

Thanks mpw. Yes I know that they will perform better on stands, but space is a premium as this is a bedroom setup. So the side table has to do. I did put some rubber bumpers on the bottom to somewhat isolate the speakers and it seems to be doing its job. They sound quite good, soundstage is huge and more importantly imaging is very precise, which as you know is mini monitor strength. So far in this location I have had the Usher be718, the B&W N805, ATC scm 19, Dynaudio focus 110, Paradigm studio 20v3, usher 520 and these are the best IMO.
Cheers,
Sid

 

[Nikhil]

Sid,

I'm told Billy Woodman listens mostly on a pair of SCM 7s in his personal setup.
Great speakers those little ATCs - was high on my list of speakers in my speaker search.

Regards.

 

[mpw]

So far in this location I have had the Usher be718, the B&W N805, ATC scm 19, Dynaudio focus 110, Paradigm studio 20v3, usher 520 and these are the best IMO.
Cheers,
Sid

Thats a long list of illustrious names there.... any reason why this one works better than the others / is it the diminutive size ? or maybe its the only sealed box speaker ?

The others ( save scm 19 ) were all ported speakers and since the placement is not upto what it should be - to allow them to shine to their fullest...maybe the sealed unit works..

the ATC SCM 19 would have required more power to shine...

In my short audio journey i am yet to hear of imaging / soundstage etc.. from speakers placed on a side table... maybe my journey isnt long enough as yet.

My observations are solely to understand what you are trying to express as the conventional experience i have doesnt get it.

regards
mpw

 

[sidvee]

I'm told Billy Woodman listens mostly on a pair of SCM 7s in his personal setup.

Thanks Nikhil, I just bought these thinking that they would be good, but to be very honest they are exceptional. I have even placed them in my main listening room on 26" sand filled sound organization stands, with the Kraft 250 amp. no less, and I was amazed how good they sounded. If I pair them with a nice sub. like a REL or perhaps one of JL audio's fathom, IMO I would have sonics rivaling the Ascendos. I am mulling a higher end sub for these for my bedroom setup. I have heard the SCM19's and even the 40's from this series, but these are something special.
Maybe Mr. Woodman knows that these are special as well:lol:.
Cheers,
Sid

 

[sidvee]

Thats a long list of illustrious names there.... any reason why this one works better than the others / is it the diminutive size ? or maybe its the only sealed box speaker ?

My observations are solely to understand what you are trying to express as the conventional experience i have doesnt get it.

regards
mpw

The reason it works is :
1. It is a sealed box - IMO only way to stop offending mid & lower bass which is the most problematic of any domestic listening room and the source of problem for most setups.
2. The acoustics of any placement is paramount, not the amount of money spent on it. As you can see, the speakers that have preceeded this cost many multiple times, but yet could not produce what I consider even half the magic of this.
3. BTW the SCM19 was driven by a symphonic line rg7 (300w x 4 ohms) and a Acoustic Research ls26 preamp- yet to my ears did not sound as good as these driven by the humble belles soloist and the parasound jc2. And please don't get hung up on dedicated stands as the only way to get the best out of a speaker, I have heard so many inwall/onwall speakers and other unconventional placements, like flowerpot stands, poured concrete pillars, suspended ceiling supports etc. that sound superb. The idea is to isolate/decouple the speaker from the surroundings/ whether by stands or by hanging in the air by cables - does not matter, however the isolation matters.
Anyways just my experience, I am no expert, definitely no authority, just a simple observer. There are so many more people on the forum with a lot more knowledge, experience and better systems/acoustics than me, so just consider this rantings of an over eager music/equipment lover and if anything helps your setup please consider it or else just ignore it.
Cheers,
Sid

 

[reignofchaos]

Wow Sid you are on a roll! New equipment every week . Sometimes the smallest speaker actually ends up sounding the best in the line up when put in a constrained environment. Maybe that is at play here. I look forward to your impressions of the line magnetic dac as well.

 

[sidvee]

Sometimes the smallest speaker actually ends up sounding the best in the line up when put in a constrained environment.

Yes ROC, I believe that is partially what is happening here. Ultimately fitting the speaker to the room within the constraints of placement is very critical, and in my case, due to the side table placement close to rear wall, this speaker shines the brightest. However I also believe that amongst the previous ATC entry level series, this sounded the most balanced and best to my ears, having heard the 11, 19 & 40. Anyways there is a new revision available now and the model 11 is garnering rave reviews. Overall, in general, I guess one cannot go too wrong with any ATC loudspeaker.
Cheers,
Sid

 

[mpw]

The reason it works is :
1. It is a sealed box - IMO only way to stop offending mid & lower bass which is the most problematic of any domestic listening room and the source of problem for most setups.
2. The acoustics of any placement is paramount, not the amount of money spent on it. As you can see, the speakers that have preceeded this cost many multiple times, but yet could not produce what I consider even half the magic of this.
3. BTW the SCM19 was driven by a symphonic line rg7 (300w x 4 ohms) and a Acoustic Research ls26 preamp- yet to my ears did not sound as good as these driven by the humble belles soloist and the parasound jc2. And please don't get hung up on dedicated stands as the only way to get the best out of a speaker, I have heard so many inwall/onwall speakers and other unconventional placements, like flowerpot stands, poured concrete pillars, suspended ceiling supports etc. that sound superb. The idea is to isolate/decouple the speaker from the surroundings/ whether by stands or by hanging in the air by cables - does not matter, however the isolation matters.
Anyways just my experience, I am no expert, definitely no authority, just a simple observer. There are so many more people on the forum with a lot more knowledge, experience and better systems/acoustics than me, so just consider this rantings of an over eager music/equipment lover and if anything helps your setup please consider it or else just ignore it.
Cheers,
Sid

sidvee,

if what an experienced member ( with a number of industry reviews to his credit ) writes are rantings .... then god save the audio enthusiasts on this forum including myself.

all i was asking was that - i could not understand why is it that it works so well out of a side table ??

Nobody is hung up on stands simply because the ATC was not designed to be put in wall or to be hung by a thread from a ceiling.

The ATC SCM7 was not designed to be placed in wall or to be stuck on a wall so its better to focus the answer to just what is asked / requested or to ignore the question.

I was fascinated by the Belles ( especially after i saw it on your thread for sometime now with the Usher S520) and i was hoping weather the combination of belles and parasound did some magic of pouring a high current drive into the ATC since the SCM 7 has a "poor" sensitivity of 84.5 dB.

I am sorry you mis-understood a simple question.

regards and have a good day !

mpw

 

[sidvee]

simply because the ATC was not designed to be put in wall or to be hung by a thread from a ceiling.
mpw

Not sure how one can hang a heavy speaker with a thread, but strong cables yes, I have seen 1 or 2 of these types in homes and of-course in clubs and other places ceiling suspension is quite common, with cables, rods etc. Also not sure what the SCM7 was designed for, but it is quite clear with the sealed box it can be placed on wall, perhaps not inwall, but there are other designs for that. I have also seen some sealed cabinet speakers placed inwall and sound quite good, I did it with my NHT super zero's long ago, by recessing them into drywall, 2 x 4 stud construction. I am sure the same can be done for the scm7 if one is so inclined. - Some images of speakers hanging from ceilings.
https://www.google.co.in/search?q=h...=PKVyVOKxLtGcuQSTmoGYCw&sqi=2&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ

I am sorry you mis-understood a simple question.
mpw

I am not sure what I misunderstood, I was replying to your query that how is the speaker demonstrating soundstage and imaging from being placed on a side table, to which I replied that dedicated stand mounting is not the only option and there are various means of mounting speakers, and also the bit about inefficient speakers, to which I replied that perhaps proper acoustics at speaker placement location is more important to good sound than even amplifer matching.
BTW no offence intended, just trying to explain what I think is right.

Cheers,
Sid

 

[sidvee]

I look forward to your impressions of the line magnetic dac as well.

Sure ROC, I am eagerly awaiting the 502. Read some really glowing reviews about the unit , this is the most recent from pf.

Line Magnetic LM-502CA DAC

More importantly, I feel that some tube magic will supercharge this system.

Cheers,
Sid

 

[AVM]

Hi Sid,
Echo ROCs post there.
I did read that earlier. The dac seems very promising.
After having now settled with the amp/speakers/transport (all in transit), dac is the last of my quest.
Your impressions would definitely help me drive my decision.

Also, Read about there amp LM 219A. Its impressive and well appreciated. Not sure if anybody has had an experience with this.

Regards,

 

[sidvee]

Some speakers that passed through my listening room in the past few months.
The Contrast audio Model 1 & the Ascendo c6. Different types of speakers at different price points, but each excellent in their own way.
Cheers,
Sid

 

[Nikhil]

Hi Sid,

Just curious, in the pic of the Contrast Audio on the left, I see that you have something else in place of your Ayon DAC. Care to share what gear that is?

Regards.