sabarirjpm
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The meet was very informative and gr8 to see people in person. We should meet more often.. Thanks much for the organizers
Chennai hfv meet- 29th january 2012
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badrisuper
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Had a good time around there with you Hifi team. First meet of this kind. Thanks to Capt. Rajesh, Srinisundar and fellow hifiers. Demonstration conducted by Acoustic Portrait, Genelec highlight of the show. Looking for more of this. Again thankyou Hifi.
contactblaise
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Hi All,
It was a wonderful meet. I really enjoyed it.:yahoo:
Chennai and India need more of these kind of meets.
People meet for all kinds of crazy things but comparatively not so much for science and technology.
Indian junta needs to embrace Audio & Video engineering much more and these meets are an awesome way to do that.
It was a good learning experience.We should have these meets at-least once a quarter.Would I be willing to spend 4 days out of 365 days per year to enrich my knowledge on AV engineering.Absolutely!!
hyeah:
My sincere thanks to Captain Rajesh and the entire organizing committee.:signthankspin:
P.S.:The pod-casts that I mentioned in my intro are
HDTV and Home Theater Podcast - Podcasts
AVRant Home Theater Podcast
It was a wonderful meet. I really enjoyed it.:yahoo:
Chennai and India need more of these kind of meets.
People meet for all kinds of crazy things but comparatively not so much for science and technology.
Indian junta needs to embrace Audio & Video engineering much more and these meets are an awesome way to do that.
It was a good learning experience.We should have these meets at-least once a quarter.Would I be willing to spend 4 days out of 365 days per year to enrich my knowledge on AV engineering.Absolutely!!
hyeah:My sincere thanks to Captain Rajesh and the entire organizing committee.:signthankspin:
P.S.:The pod-casts that I mentioned in my intro are
HDTV and Home Theater Podcast - Podcasts
AVRant Home Theater Podcast
Thad E Ginathom
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It was a long day, but a good one. Great sounds, but outstanding sounds from both Acoustic Portrait and Genelec, with "special award for technical interest" to David & co for the networked specialist PA system.
srinisundar
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Are you sure
Yes it is great to see people in persons known online with only handle name
Yes of course both are highlight of Meet + Love the Norge speakers/Amps which are VFM.
Thanks for organizing the meet guys. It was good listening to the Acoustic Portrait and Genelec Gear. Siva from Acoustic Portrait spoke about Acoustic Portrait's philosophy and also shared some nice tips that would help newbies in this wonderful hobby of ours. I came in late and left early, so missed out on the Norge-Sonodyne-Yamaha demo. Also missed out on the PA gear that was played later in the day.
Was also nice to meet so many HFVians and put a face to many names that I have come across but had not met before members like Thad, Matbhuvi, Mikchm, bottle, Roshan etc to name a few.
@Kuruvilajacob: It was really nice to meet you and discuss your TTs and Vintage gear. Will definitely visit your place when I am in your part of Kerala.
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Was also nice to meet so many HFVians and put a face to many names that I have come across but had not met before members like Thad, Matbhuvi, Mikchm, bottle, Roshan etc to name a few.
@Kuruvilajacob: It was really nice to meet you and discuss your TTs and Vintage gear. Will definitely visit your place when I am in your part of Kerala.
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Thad E Ginathom
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Bottle and I took some time out to talk about cars.
We're hoping to make up for it by discussing hifi at a Team-BHP meet
We're hoping to make up for it by discussing hifi at a Team-BHP meet
Haha , great meet, great to see all the faces behind the handles.
Santhosh was good to see you and others from out of Chennai who made it here as well
And have to say a big thanks to the organizers for putting the whole thing together without any glitches
Santhosh was good to see you and others from out of Chennai who made it here as well
And have to say a big thanks to the organizers for putting the whole thing together without any glitches
Ah, I missed that part. I am a bhp-ian too.Bottle and I took some time out to talk about cars.
We're hoping to make up for it by discussing hifi at a Team-BHP meet
@Bottle: Was that Cedia with Oz wheels yours?
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Hi,
I thank the organisers for a wonderful meet .
The Acoustic Portrait and Genelec listening sessions were very good. I had to leave early and missed listening to David and Roshan's software controled beam stearing line array speakers.
Regards
Rajiv
I thank the organisers for a wonderful meet .
The Acoustic Portrait and Genelec listening sessions were very good. I had to leave early and missed listening to David and Roshan's software controled beam stearing line array speakers.
Regards
Rajiv
Ah, I missed that part. I am a bhp-ian too.
@Bottle: Was that Cedia with Oz wheels yours?
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No that was Pbr's I think. mine was a Polo
It was a wonderful session. Loved listening to Acoustic Portrait. Unfortunately I missed that last few session on the DAC comparison and genelec speakers. The other highlight of this meet was that we discovered lot of fellow team bhpians.
Thad E Ginathom
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It was a great "PS" to the hifi, as it is not meant to compete with domestic speaker systems. The technology, its use of IP networking, and the amazing power of the controlling software was fascinating. It's a long time since I found a networking/computer technology so interesting!
square_wave
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What speakers were the AP electronics connected to ?
It was great to meet up and put names & faces onto "nom de plumes".
Huge thanks to Capt.Rajesh Srini & Harish who organized it all.
Thanks for allowing David & myself to show off the Orange Pale LAD 16 Networked Digital Line Arrays. Also lovely to meet up with Nick H - the mod from Indiamike & Carnatic musician extraordinary - and my old friend and fellow hi-fi maniac Rajiv, after a twenty year gap - no change to his enthusiasm for all things hi-fi..!
Huge thanks to Capt.Rajesh Srini & Harish who organized it all.
Thanks for allowing David & myself to show off the Orange Pale LAD 16 Networked Digital Line Arrays. Also lovely to meet up with Nick H - the mod from Indiamike & Carnatic musician extraordinary
- and my old friend and fellow hi-fi maniac Rajiv, after a twenty year gap - no change to his enthusiasm for all things hi-fi..! Thad E Ginathom
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Fascinating stuff, Rosh. Do you guys have a website? Maybe I'd better ask google in case answering that might be advertising! I don't play music, just enjoy it. Similarly, with IndiaMike, I'm glad to say that I've just been an ordinary member for some years now. Forum moderating is hard work!
A Little More on Genelec
Having read with great interest about the Genelec event in Mumbai, I was delighted that they were able to make it, albeit for a shortened demonstration of just one pair of speakers from their range. Hopefuly they will be able to come again one day for a longer session.
Genelec speakers aim for flat, unflavoured sound. As such, they are probably not the choice of many a hifi listener. In the catalogue, there is one photograph of their littlest model flanking a MacBook, all the others are of pro-audio studios, and not a single living room. Howoever, it seems that some people are taking this sound into their homes On display was one of their digital-input DSP series. I think it was the 8240A. Between the laptop and the speakers was the Motu Microbook interface. It could be any similar of course: Clifford recommended not to use a mother-boad built-in.
Active: No amplifier required. Digital: No DAC required. DSP: things get a little more complex!
Active speakers is a well understood concept and needs no further comment, except to note that these 2-way speakers do not have just one amplifier feeding a crossover. they have an amplifier for each driver! Thus, the woofer amp is precisely tailored to feed the woofer driver and the tweeter amplifier is precisely tailored to feed the tweeter. Some stuff about impedence I did not understand; next time maybe, or someone else could fill in the gap?
Digital Input is not unknown, either. At the lower end of the market, my response is, these speakers cost Rs.x, and that has to be split over amplifier, drivers, case and DAC? That's spreading it a bit thin, and maybe we can't expect that much of each component. The DAC may be no better than the ones that PC motherboards comes with.
However, Genelec are not at the lower end of the market, by any means. In size, these were "bookshelf;" in price, they were around Rs.3.5 Lakh. They are engineered to sound superb, if anyone wants to feed the analogue input from an another DAC, they can, but it would be a waste.
It is even possible for the speakers to process digital 5.1 sound, in which case the original signal is fed to the subwoofer.
DSP (Digital Sound Processing). The speakers have, as mentioned, a digital input. This signal (whether from pro sound gear or even just the RCA output of a CD deck) gets split into two channels at the first speaker, the second channel being passed to the second speaker. There is also another set of connections, via cat-5 cable, from a Genelec box about the size of a laptop power supply. This is connected to laptop/PC. There is a microphone which is placed in the listening position. Controlled by the Genelec software, each speaker outputs a sweep tone. The tone "as heard" by the mic is used to calculate the DSP settings, which are then fed back to speakers to provide correct tonal and timing settings for that listening position.
This information can be saved on the speakers, in which case, the control equipment and cables can now be put away. Alternatively, different listening-position profiles can be saved on the PC and uploaded to the speakers when needed. They can also be manually tweaked.
If the PC remains connected, it can also be used to control the volume of the speakers. This is a digitally controlled analogue volume control: the bit depth/resolution is not affected as the volume is reduced.
The physical appearance is pro-studio. Not hard, because just about surface is curved, but not the perfect "piece of furniture" for the traditional living room. However, if the customer is prepared to wait, they can have any colour they want! Apparently, even veneered finish can be made.
A very interesting demo --- that did nothing to reduce my potentially-expensive interest in studio monitoring speakers
A Little More on Genelec
Having read with great interest about the Genelec event in Mumbai, I was delighted that they were able to make it, albeit for a shortened demonstration of just one pair of speakers from their range. Hopefuly they will be able to come again one day for a longer session.
Genelec speakers aim for flat, unflavoured sound. As such, they are probably not the choice of many a hifi listener. In the catalogue, there is one photograph of their littlest model flanking a MacBook, all the others are of pro-audio studios, and not a single living room. Howoever, it seems that some people are taking this sound into their homes On display was one of their digital-input DSP series. I think it was the 8240A. Between the laptop and the speakers was the Motu Microbook interface. It could be any similar of course: Clifford recommended not to use a mother-boad built-in.
Active: No amplifier required. Digital: No DAC required. DSP: things get a little more complex!
Active speakers is a well understood concept and needs no further comment, except to note that these 2-way speakers do not have just one amplifier feeding a crossover. they have an amplifier for each driver! Thus, the woofer amp is precisely tailored to feed the woofer driver and the tweeter amplifier is precisely tailored to feed the tweeter. Some stuff about impedence I did not understand; next time maybe, or someone else could fill in the gap?
Digital Input is not unknown, either. At the lower end of the market, my response is, these speakers cost Rs.x, and that has to be split over amplifier, drivers, case and DAC? That's spreading it a bit thin, and maybe we can't expect that much of each component. The DAC may be no better than the ones that PC motherboards comes with.
However, Genelec are not at the lower end of the market, by any means. In size, these were "bookshelf;" in price, they were around Rs.3.5 Lakh. They are engineered to sound superb, if anyone wants to feed the analogue input from an another DAC, they can, but it would be a waste.
It is even possible for the speakers to process digital 5.1 sound, in which case the original signal is fed to the subwoofer.
DSP (Digital Sound Processing). The speakers have, as mentioned, a digital input. This signal (whether from pro sound gear or even just the RCA output of a CD deck) gets split into two channels at the first speaker, the second channel being passed to the second speaker. There is also another set of connections, via cat-5 cable, from a Genelec box about the size of a laptop power supply. This is connected to laptop/PC. There is a microphone which is placed in the listening position. Controlled by the Genelec software, each speaker outputs a sweep tone. The tone "as heard" by the mic is used to calculate the DSP settings, which are then fed back to speakers to provide correct tonal and timing settings for that listening position.
This information can be saved on the speakers, in which case, the control equipment and cables can now be put away. Alternatively, different listening-position profiles can be saved on the PC and uploaded to the speakers when needed. They can also be manually tweaked.
If the PC remains connected, it can also be used to control the volume of the speakers. This is a digitally controlled analogue volume control: the bit depth/resolution is not affected as the volume is reduced.
The physical appearance is pro-studio. Not hard, because just about surface is curved, but not the perfect "piece of furniture" for the traditional living room. However, if the customer is prepared to wait, they can have any colour they want! Apparently, even veneered finish can be made.
A very interesting demo --- that did nothing to reduce my potentially-expensive interest in studio monitoring speakers
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Thanks to Capt. Rajesh, Harish and other members of the organising committee for arranging an enriching meet and allowing me in at the last moment.
Acoustisc portrait was a good experience and so was genelec.
David & Roshan's beam strearing model was a revelation and so was the software they used to control the whole stuff.
I would have loved to audition the norge brand a little more as it was the nearest to my budget but guess I need to walk in to Vipul's store at Kilpauk and spend a day there till he drives me out.
For any vintage audiophile lovers there is a McIntosh Integrated Stereo Amp model MA-5100 available for sale on ebay and the guy is in Chennai. It is a 1962 beauty and considered one of the best of its times.
McIntosh Integrated Amplifiers Stereo Amp | eBay
Regards
Kannan
.Acoustisc portrait was a good experience and so was genelec.
David & Roshan's beam strearing model was a revelation and so was the software they used to control the whole stuff.
I would have loved to audition the norge brand a little more as it was the nearest to my budget but guess I need to walk in to Vipul's store at Kilpauk and spend a day there till he drives me out.
For any vintage audiophile lovers there is a McIntosh Integrated Stereo Amp model MA-5100 available for sale on ebay and the guy is in Chennai. It is a 1962 beauty and considered one of the best of its times.
McIntosh Integrated Amplifiers Stereo Amp | eBay
Regards
Kannan
It was great to meet up and put names & faces onto "nom de plumes".
Huge thanks to Capt.Rajesh Srini & Harish who organized it all.
Thanks for allowing David & myself to show off the Orange Pale LAD 16 Networked Digital Line Arrays. Also lovely to meet up with Nick H - the mod from Indiamike & Carnatic musician extraordinary
Thanks to you and Dave for the audition, the network concept and especially the software was a revelation. :clapping:
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