Garrard 301 takes off

[stevieboy]

Hi Kuruvilajacob,

Last I checked was a month or so back. If you like, pm me your email and I'll mail you a protractor you can print.

Regards


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[ajay124]

stevieboy

#46 was very good

 

[stevieboy]

Thanks Ajay

For those who like Gerald Comes to Town, pre-order your copy of the ultra short novella in the series, which is scheduled to hit around or after Christmas - Gerald Gets A Dog. January will feature Gerald Gets Stoned.

 

[kuruvilajacob]

Hi stevieboy,
I should be in Bangalore for Christmas and would love to visit Gerald. Unfortunately, I will not be able to bring GI Joe with me. He is too huge to be carted around.
Regds
kuruvilajacob

 

[stevieboy]

Hi Kuruvilajacob,

Will be travelling, so do send me a PM with the dates you are in bangalore. Would be lovely to meet you

Regards


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[Finyl Vinyl]

Damn I wanna go home and spin 401. But still sitting in my jail cell

 

[stevieboy]

Hopefully you're at home now Finyl spinning the 401

Update:
I've stopped playing the Garrard. The initial test went good, it was to see if everything was working, tonearm was working, could be mounted properly etc... Now I need to take off the clamshell bottom of the motor and clean it, don't want to damage anything by running it perhaps not lubricated. Also the idler spring is gone I suspect, its quite loose and it does not make good contact with the pulley at the 33 speed notch. Will have to see if cleaning does the trick first cos it takes quite a while to come up to speed at 33. Unfortunately looks likely to happen only in Jan cos way too busy till then.

 

[Hiten]

Will have to see if cleaning does the trick first cos it takes quite a while to come up to speed at 33.

wouldn't that be the rubber pulley is slipping ? (You said spring is loose) If pulley doesn't grip it takes time for platter to reach proper speed.

 

[stevieboy]

Hi Hiten,

The rubber idler wheel touches a vertical metal pulley which is driven by the motor, and thus gets the rotational power to drive the platter. No rubber pulley anywhere. With the platter removed I can see that the idler wheel is not touching the pulley exactly, there's a slight gap. Two springs are attached to the idler mechanism. One of them I think gets into play when the idler moves from idle (disengaged from pulley) to active state (engaging the pulley). This spring is quite stretched hence my suspicion that its not letting the idler establish proper contact. At 45 and 78 however the idler touches the pulley perfectly, cos those steps are bigger in diameter. These two speeds come up to speed faster.

Regards

 

[Hiten]

Got it stevie. Saw inside pics on the net.

 

[kuruvilajacob]

Stevieboy,
I could ask my mechanic tomorrow since he serviced my 301 recently. The 301 I got was not used for a long time. He did a fantastic job. If any forum members want their vintage players serviced , please send me a PM. I can arrange it
kuruvilajacob

 

[quad]

This spring is quite stretched hence my suspicion that its not letting the idler establish proper contact. At 45 and 78 however the idler touches the pulley perfectly, cos those steps are bigger in diameter. These two speeds come up to speed faster.

Regards

A rubber band should do the trick.

 

[arj]

what Jean nantais has done for the lenco is to replace the Spring with a String with a 50-80g weight tied to it. Its more permanent than the rubberband..also the weight can control the degree of the "coupling"

 

[quad]

what Jean nantais has done for the lenco is to replace the Spring with a String with a 50-80g weight tied to it. Its more permanent than the rubberband..also the weight can control the degree of the "coupling"

Nice - simple and elegant. Thanks for the pic!

 

[stevieboy]

Hi Kuruvilajacob,

What all did he do? What's his background, an electronics repair guy? Does he take out the rivets do a complete clean and re rivet? Thanks will keep that in mind.

Quad,
Thanks. Will see if it works. Though am guessing a rubber band won't maintain it's tension that long though... plan on getting a set of springs from perfect sound.

Regards


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[Hiten]

Stevie if you are throwing the old spring away, you can try this...
just clip tiny portion (Half a circle of the spring) of the spring with cutting plier. This will increase tension of the original spring. But please be careful as you will have only one chance. Other than that you can recompress the spring by keeping it compressed for some time. I see from net that spring attaches to a lever with two holes to adjust the tension but I think you already may have thought about it.
Regards

 

[Hiten]

if you dont want to damage the original spring one more thing you can do. you can tie two circle section of the spring on one end together with durable nylon thread this will increase the tension.
Regards

 

[stevieboy]

Stevie if you are throwing the old spring away, you can try this...
just clip tiny portion (Half a circle of the spring) of the spring with cutting plier. This will increase tension of the original spring. But please be careful as you will have only one chance. Other than that you can recompress the spring by keeping it compressed for some time. I see from net that spring attaches to a lever with two holes to adjust the tension but I think you already may have thought about it.
Regards

Hehe ain't thought about it all all I understood your other suggestion which makes very good sense to me since I maintain the spring itself in position, I can imagine it working to increase the tension. Didn't understand the clip tiny portion part. Do you mean just bend it? And not cut it?

Regards

 

[Finyl Vinyl]

Stevie if you are throwing the old spring away, you can try this...
just clip tiny portion (Half a circle of the spring) of the spring with cutting plier. This will increase tension of the original spring. But please be careful as you will have only one chance. Other than that you can recompress the spring by keeping it compressed for some time. I see from net that spring attaches to a lever with two holes to adjust the tension but I think you already may have thought about it.
Regards

Steve, IMHO this will work better than other suggestions. No offence guys

 

[Hiten]

On second thought...
1st pic shows second hole on lever. which you can use to increase tension.
or
no need to cut original spring just bend one circled section of the spring and pass it through the lever hole as shown in 2nd and 3rd pic. Be careful with the bending as these steel springs breaks easily with few turns.

OK OK I confess I am terribly bored with my routine work so enjoying this