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Garrard 301 takes off
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For all you know Gerald might turn out to be a cross dresser and prefer Victoria's secret!
Hi,
Steven,your welcome.
I wanted to make sure.
Thanks to your posts,I got of my behind and got the Garrard up and running,and have fitted an Ortofon SL15( a SPU type cartridge that tracks at lighter weight 1.5-2 gms compared to the 3-4gms a SPU tracks at) that had been hibernating for a few years.
From the link below.
A SHORT HISTORY OF ORTOFON PICK-UP CARTRIDGES. Adventures in High Fidelity Audio
Amazed at how good a 50 year old cartridge sounds. Now I know what the buzz about the SPU cartridges are.Will post impressions soon.
With the Ortofon in place the Linn looks to be heading for a long deserved rest.
Regards
Rajiv
Steven,your welcome.
I wanted to make sure.
Thanks to your posts,I got of my behind and got the Garrard up and running,and have fitted an Ortofon SL15( a SPU type cartridge that tracks at lighter weight 1.5-2 gms compared to the 3-4gms a SPU tracks at) that had been hibernating for a few years.
From the link below.
A SHORT HISTORY OF ORTOFON PICK-UP CARTRIDGES. Adventures in High Fidelity Audio
Amazed at how good a 50 year old cartridge sounds. Now I know what the buzz about the SPU cartridges are.Will post impressions soon.
With the Ortofon in place the Linn looks to be heading for a long deserved rest.
Regards
Rajiv
Thanks, Rajiv, for that hugely informative link.
I, too, have an SL15 lying around waiting to be used. Now that I know that it's rated for 1.5 to 2 gms, I might try it out on my SME III.
regards,
Hi,
Your welcome.
The SME 3009(non improved) or 3012 will be better matches for the Ortofon SL15.
Do you have the matching 2K-15 transformer?
If you ever want to dispose of the SL15 please give me heads up.
In my opinion modern cartridge design like all things in mainstream Audio/HiFi since the mid 80's has gone down the path of trying to extract more detail and in the process lost the "soul" of the music.
Regards
Rajiv
Your welcome.
The SME 3009(non improved) or 3012 will be better matches for the Ortofon SL15.
Do you have the matching 2K-15 transformer?
If you ever want to dispose of the SL15 please give me heads up.
In my opinion modern cartridge design like all things in mainstream Audio/HiFi since the mid 80's has gone down the path of trying to extract more detail and in the process lost the "soul" of the music.
Regards
Rajiv
this somehow seems to be true to Tonearms as well !
Hi,
The SME 3009(non improved) or 3012 will be better matches for the Ortofon SL15.
Do you have the matching 2K-15 transformer?
If you ever want to dispose of the SL15 please give me heads up.
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Agree about the tonearm, but my only option right now is a 3009 Improved, which does not scale beyond 1.5 gms. The SME III has variable mass, and can track up to 2.5 gms, hence.
No, I don't have the transformer.
Will keep you in mind in case..., sure.
regards,
Took two visits: first visit got the belt for TD 124 as Aziz had similar length in stock. Second visit yielded the TD 160 belt which he custom-made after making measurements. Couldn't get idler though. One came up two weeks back in ebay but I forgot to bid as the ending time was some 7:45 am on last Monday morning! Any pointer to where I can buy one without all this hassles is highly welcome. This ebay seller from Switzerland refused to sell me on Buy Now.
I tried the TD 160 belt and it somehow doesn't sound right - very harsh bass and mid and everything sounding metallic. I think it's a bit too tight. Even free rotation is very restricted compared to earlier - stops in a few revolutions. Will measure lengths of original belt and new again and see if that is sufficient to produce so much harshness. Speed seems right.
Question: if a belt is too tight, what happens?
Joshua,
In my opinion tight belt would put more pressure on bushing and load the motor. So not good. Try to loosen it by keeping it stretched for few days on some circular object. 2-3 minutes of dipping in kerosene would dramatically increase its length. but after few days comes back to original size with only 1/2 mm increase. Also dipping in kerosene would loose some elasticity. So be careful. Tight belts would also transfer resonance and vibrations easily to the platter and ultimately to vinyl and the stylus. So thinner belts are preferred. I too got thicker belt from him. If I had not been lazy I would have made some contraption so as the belt would move over sand paper and thickness would reduce. Lets see if I make it I will update.
for idler wheel on ebay. have you tried ebay alert. Whenever idler wheel will come for sale on ebay it will email you.
Regards
There are a few folks who will rebuild an old idler. Getting
the rubber compound right is supposed to be the trick.
Terry is often recommended.
Terry's Rubber Pinch Rollers & Wheels
Phono and Turntable Idler Wheels and Turrets
Phonograph Turntable Idler Drive Wheels at Ken's Electronics, (Wholesale & Retail Electronic Parts) Kalamazoo, Michigan
Some nicely redone wheels on terrys site quad! Thanks for the links!
Joshua,
Did you try schopper for the idler or is it outta budget? You're looking out for a td 124 idler right? Will keep a look out for you
Regards
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Joshua,
Did you try schopper for the idler or is it outta budget? You're looking out for a td 124 idler right? Will keep a look out for you
Regards
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Hi,
Link to website for the factory service update on the Garrard 301.
Instructions,on how to oil the motor lower bearing without getting the bottom cover of.
Click on the pages to enlarge.
1967 design paper
Regards
Rajiv
Link to website for the factory service update on the Garrard 301.
Instructions,on how to oil the motor lower bearing without getting the bottom cover of.
Click on the pages to enlarge.
1967 design paper
Regards
Rajiv
I tried Schopper - they don't have idler wheels. They do have belts, and lots of other rebuild stuff. Those will be part of future upgrade, if any
Art Dudley of Stereophile seems to be enamoured with Schopper upgrades.The same ebay seller has put up the auction once more. Again ending time is going to be very odd - some 7 am on Christmas morning. But I shall have to wake up and win this bid.
Confession: I don't have an idler wheel to begin with:lol: so I need a new one or an used one in good condition. After I brought home the TD124, I tried a number of times to make it play and the platter would resolutely refuse to spin though the motor spun the belt drive. It took me lots of tries to realise that something important is missing.
Hi,
You could try mailing this guy.
Mirko Djordjevic---- [email protected]
His ebay store.
Idler Wheel for Thorens TD-124 Turntable - New!!! | eBay
sq38s | eBay
His email is at the bottom of the page
E50 assy
He seems to be well recomended on Audiogon.
You could try these guys. I bought a TD124 belt from them years ago.
Technical & General, P.O. Box 53, Crowborough, East Sussex TN6 2BY, ENGLAND
tel +44 (0)1892 65 45 34.
I don't think they have a website.Old fashioned.
Regards
Rajiv
You could try mailing this guy.
Mirko Djordjevic---- [email protected]
His ebay store.
Idler Wheel for Thorens TD-124 Turntable - New!!! | eBay
sq38s | eBay
His email is at the bottom of the page
E50 assy
He seems to be well recomended on Audiogon.
You could try these guys. I bought a TD124 belt from them years ago.
Technical & General, P.O. Box 53, Crowborough, East Sussex TN6 2BY, ENGLAND
tel +44 (0)1892 65 45 34.
I don't think they have a website.Old fashioned.
Regards
Rajiv
Thanks, Rajiv. Seller sq38s no longer seems to be selling idler wheels though many people had recommended his product. Also, he gained a bad rep after he didn't ship sold items. He doesn't have any current listings.
I already wrote to Technical and General. They didn't even reply. I guess I'll have to call them the old-fashioned way (if my current ebay bid fails).
he is slightly old school in his thinking so response/shipping is often delayed although there is no doubt on his workmanship..i have his idler for the lenco...very well built
i believe he was going thru some personal difficulties hence delayes...he is a 1 man shop ..so unpredictable !
i believe he was going thru some personal difficulties hence delayes...he is a 1 man shop ..so unpredictable !
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kuruvilajacob
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I know a guy in my place who would make any idler wheel if you caqn give him an old one. I had two old Philips turntables both with totally worn out idler wheels. He was able to make exact replicas using good quality rubber. Wanna try?
kuruvilajacob
kuruvilajacob
Outbid again
I last checked last night at midnight, upping my bid substantially (I was the sole bidder then) but this morning I was comprehensively outbid and lost. Is there some automated way of upping bids?
Bro, Don't you know the secret of ebay bidding ?Outbid again
I last checked last night at midnight, upping my bid substantially (I was the sole bidder then) but this morning I was comprehensively outbid and lost. Is there some automated way of upping bids?
You just place your bid at last 2 to 1 minutes before auction ends. This will register your bid as highest before anyone else have time (just 1 min.) to outbid you.
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