Hi,
I was in touch with Mr. Kadam recently. His outfit is now called Audiotec. His no. is +91 99 30 813708.
Infact had purchased a subwoofer from him in April. He is a gentleman to the core and always had a good buying experience from him..
HT in a small 10x12 room at around Rs 3.5L
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I was in touch with Mr. Kadam recently. His outfit is now called Audiotec. His no. is +91 99 30 813708.
Infact had purchased a subwoofer from him in April. He is a gentleman to the core and always had a good buying experience from him..
Super, bro. Thanks
Will surely get in touch with him.
Another FM, too, recently pinged to say they spoke to him.
So, glad to hear. I got scared cos when i searched with the old company name, Google showed it as permanently shut.
prateekatasniya
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I have a friend in this company..Anyone have any experience with this Bombay outfit:
Speakers for Home | ANSATA
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Most welcome K-pad. All the best and hope you get what you want.
An unrelated update:
After all the reading done in this quest, I played around with the current tiny sub I now have with my desktop setup. Moved it from under my solid wood work desk (kept there when the speakers arrived to save space in the first place), and placed it in a few places to see how the LFs play.
0. Earlier (under desk) the bass was kinda big, yes, but when it went very low with some hip-hop tracks, it did agitate my desk a bit, resulting in a bit of desk-floor rattle.
1. Got much better response when I moved it out from under the desk today. The first position I tried also happened to be closer to the room's window. Now, while the bass was tighter, the real lows (as much as this fellow could play) continued to rattle the windows (and the desk less than before).
2. Finally managed to find a place more to the middle of the room away from the windows, from the desk (thank god for the decent cable length) and boy, it has made a world of difference!
After several movie clips, I feel the LF now tighter, and for some reason I have even been able to turn down the volume a bit! Most of all, am able to set a volume level so not to be too loud, and the dialogues are much, much clearer, while providing an encompassing ambience when the bass kicks in! It all feels one of a piece and so immersive!
I dunno if there are broader lessons here besides 1. play around with your set-up, 2. play around with your set-up, and 3. play around with your set-up.
And if I have to venture, maybe I will add this: if you have a sub in a small room, find some breathing room for both the port and the driver.
PS: Am a proper noob and by penning this, i really do not mean to come across like am preaching to the high priests. Just wanted to leave a personal experience here, maybe for fellow newbies with a small room, who i have seen are the most worried lot in this forum.
Cheers!
After all the reading done in this quest, I played around with the current tiny sub I now have with my desktop setup. Moved it from under my solid wood work desk (kept there when the speakers arrived to save space in the first place), and placed it in a few places to see how the LFs play.
0. Earlier (under desk) the bass was kinda big, yes, but when it went very low with some hip-hop tracks, it did agitate my desk a bit, resulting in a bit of desk-floor rattle.
1. Got much better response when I moved it out from under the desk today. The first position I tried also happened to be closer to the room's window. Now, while the bass was tighter, the real lows (as much as this fellow could play) continued to rattle the windows (and the desk less than before).
2. Finally managed to find a place more to the middle of the room away from the windows, from the desk (thank god for the decent cable length) and boy, it has made a world of difference!
After several movie clips, I feel the LF now tighter, and for some reason I have even been able to turn down the volume a bit! Most of all, am able to set a volume level so not to be too loud, and the dialogues are much, much clearer, while providing an encompassing ambience when the bass kicks in! It all feels one of a piece and so immersive!
I dunno if there are broader lessons here besides 1. play around with your set-up, 2. play around with your set-up, and 3. play around with your set-up.
And if I have to venture, maybe I will add this: if you have a sub in a small room, find some breathing room for both the port and the driver.
PS: Am a proper noob and by penning this, i really do not mean to come across like am preaching to the high priests. Just wanted to leave a personal experience here, maybe for fellow newbies with a small room, who i have seen are the most worried lot in this forum.
Cheers!
Listened to the Dali Oberon 5s, and was really blown away.
The seller had his set-up in a residential place, with a treated room.
It was paired with the Denon 3600 and everything from the sound-stage to the bass was way better than the Oberon 7 I had heard earlier! Dunno why that happened - only reason I can think of is the Marantz 5015 they were mated with. I think it is the receiver because I even had a second listen to the 7s in a closed treated room and there was not much of a difference from the first poor impression.
The 5s, though, were superb.
Listened to the Dali Oberon 5s, and was really blown away.
The seller had his set-up in a residential place, with a treated room.
It was paired with the Denon 3600 and everything from the sound-stage to the bass was way better than the Oberon 7 I had heard earlier! Dunno why that happened - only reason I can think of is the Marantz 5015 they were mated with. I think it is the receiver because I even had a second listen to the 7s in a closed treated room and there was not much of a difference from the first poor impression.
The 5s, though, were superb.
I have the Dali Oberon 5s. I think they are superb.
I think Dali got it just right with this model.
I have seen this before with speakers - that the next more expensive in the lineup , may not be neccessarily better.
How so true!
It was a bit of a bummer when i experienced it first hand - not that i was looking at the 7s as an active purchase option, but since i happened to listen to them first, i was left cold. Was not even going to listen to the 5s after that experience. But then, again just happened to listen to them within a few days.
The 5s just blew my mind away! The difference was night and day...
Wonder why that is, though...
Listened to the PSB Alpha T20s, and the Martin Logan Motion 40i.Listened to the Dali Oberon 5s, and was really blown away.
The seller had his set-up in a residential place, with a treated room.
It was paired with the Denon 3600 and everything from the sound-stage to the bass was way better than the Oberon 7 I had heard earlier! Dunno why that happened - only reason I can think of is the Marantz 5015 they were mated with. I think it is the receiver because I even had a second listen to the 7s in a closed treated room and there was not much of a difference from the first poor impression.
The 5s, though, were superb.
Again, the set up may have had all to do with it, but the Rs 2 lakh retail price 40is had nothing on the Rs 3 lakh retail price 60XTis... Left me feeling pretty cold.
The PSBs, on the other hand, mother of god, blew it out of the waters.
Their Canadian cousins Paradigms are extremely well rated in forums, but these PSBs (MRP 60K INR) just destroy the Paradigm 6000SEs (MRP 90-odd K)
Anyone looking for a budget option should look at them definitely. Seriously can't understand why they don't get more love over here in India! Especially in the VFM market - What the Klipshes and the Dalis do at their price points, the PSBs do better and how! And at what a cut in the budget.
Now, onwards I go to the KEF, QA and the last couple of towers in my budget.
Anyone who has had experience with the Definitive Technology base model towers in Mumbai, kindly lemme know where I can listen to them...
Thanks and regards
You can listen to Definitive Technology at Audio Check, contact person Mohsin, inside Laxmi Industrial Estate , Andheri West.
I found the Definitives to be overpriced although I didn't demo the Towers.
Listened to the older Dali Opticon 6. Paired with a NAD putting out 70W to each channel. Sounded way better than the Oberons or any other pair of speakers I had heard but one --> the Martin Logan 60XTi, which is quickly becoming the reference to my ears. The Opticon was missing the separation that the bigger MLs had.
The high-frequencies were really there in the Opticon, and the soundstage was damn good, but that -- i don't know how to put it, so kindly put up with my unscientific phrase - "vacuum-like" separation that I heard in the bigger ML 60XTis wasn't there.
The separation of the high-mid-low was so distinct in the MLs - everything was exactly where it should be. It was missing in the Opticons, where the feeling I got was that everything was a little bit overlapping...
I really don't know if I have explained it well, so kindly excuse if it doesn't make sense.
I was kinda hoping my search might come to an end here, but sadly looks like not to be...
On another note, the auditioning is maddening - Every listen leads to a new point, I envy FMs who have mentioned here earlier that they have done almost a year, year+ of auditions... Hope I meet the sound of my soul soon enough.
Decadent_Spectre
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Your posts in this thread stand in stark contrast to our conversation in the other thread.
+100 points for the drawings
-100 points for hip-hop
Random advice, you need DSP. If you can spare 30k odd (last I checked) Behringer DCX2496. Some people prefer miniDSP (much cheaper, more consumer oriented), I do not.
Have Fun!
+100 points for the drawings
-100 points for hip-hop
Random advice, you need DSP. If you can spare 30k odd (last I checked) Behringer DCX2496. Some people prefer miniDSP (much cheaper, more consumer oriented), I do not.
Have Fun!
How so? Like, which aspect?
If i have to take a guess, I think the experiences laid out in this thread led me to asking that question I think...
Haha! The house spread ranges from hip-hop and jazz on one side to pop, country and classical on the other.
Random advice, you need DSP. If you can spare 30k odd (last I checked) Behringer DCX2496. Some people prefer miniDSP (much cheaper, more consumer oriented), I do not.
Have Fun!
In what manner will it specifically help? Will read up, too. Tks
Decadent_Spectre
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A lot more subjective here.
I'm a Metal,Rock,EBM,Synth Pop,Trance,House and Pop guy. I'm okay with Country,Classical. I wouldn't touch Jazz,Rap,Hip Hop/R&B. It's amazing the genres and fusions available today.
Are you not familiar with DSPs? They offer various processing depending upon the company/model. They offer input to output routing ,LPF/HPF of various types, PEQ, Delay (ms/feet), Phase, Shelf filters, Gain,Limiting and more. They are not however intended to decode Dolby/DTS etc, you need a pre/AVR for that. In simple terms they offer great many ways to alter the signal, digitally. IMO it's a must for any serious music lover.
Ya, guess it comes with more listening and reading. It's been a maddening learning curve so far, and I will not even be surprised if I am still confused when the time comes to plough the money.
Nope, will have to read up. Thought I could set up with an AVR, add an amp later for the front stage and be done.
Will check them out.
Yes, it will be an issue. But will have to manage if I want to keep listening and HT in the same space. Fingers crossed and hoping EQ helps
Listened to the Q Acoustics 3050i and Concept 40.Listened to the older Dali Opticon 6. Paired with a NAD putting out 70W to each channel. Sounded way better than the Oberons or any other pair of speakers I had heard but one --> the Martin Logan 60XTi, which is quickly becoming the reference to my ears. The Opticon was missing the separation that the bigger MLs had.
The high-frequencies were really there in the Opticon, and the soundstage was damn good, but that -- i don't know how to put it, so kindly put up with my unscientific phrase - "vacuum-like" separation that I heard in the bigger ML 60XTis wasn't there.
The separation of the high-mid-low was so distinct in the MLs - everything was exactly where it should be. It was missing in the Opticons, where the feeling I got was that everything was a little bit overlapping...
I really don't know if I have explained it well, so kindly excuse if it doesn't make sense.
I was kinda hoping my search might come to an end here, but sadly looks like not to be...
On another note, the auditioning is maddening - Every listen leads to a new point, I envy FMs who have mentioned here earlier that they have done almost a year, year+ of auditions... Hope I meet the sound of my soul soon enough.
The imaging and soundstage were beautiful in both.
Funnily, the lower model (but bigger cabinet) 3050i had a bit more grunt in the lower frequencies than the Concept 40, without ever going boomy. (I guess this must be down to the bigger woofers than the 40s...
The Concept 40 had a stunning warmth to it. The only word I could think of for some guitar notes were 'Smooth'
But as the listening progressed, they sounded soo smooth to the level of being a little too laidback.
While auditioning for speakers are you set on towers or are you also hearing out the stand mounts in the same family?
Keep an open mind, while you are at a dealer hear out the little ones too.
For your room, with a sub in the mix, bookshelf or stand mount speakers may just click.
Cheers,
Raghu
Keep an open mind, while you are at a dealer hear out the little ones too.
For your room, with a sub in the mix, bookshelf or stand mount speakers may just click.
Cheers,
Raghu
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