Indian audio amplifier designers

[anm]

I thought bina tone is without tone.

 

[trittya]

I thought bina tone is without tone.

A Honest query
Is Bina Ramani w/o Ramani tooo????
:sad:

 

[anm]

I just wonder what is the measurement/ quality control/ adherence to standards being done by Indian designers/ manufacturers. I agree that it should be right if it sounds right, but OTOH if it measures wrong, it must be wrong.

 

[Hiten]

I just wonder what is the measurement/ quality control/ adherence to standards being done by Indian designers/ manufacturers. I agree that it should be right if it sounds right, but OTOH if it measures wrong, it must be wrong.

Good point anm.

 

[trittya]

I just wonder what is the measurement/ quality control/ adherence to standards being done by Indian designers/ manufacturers. I agree that it should be right if it sounds right, but OTOH if it measures wrong, it must be wrong.

Yeah, stands to logic so I tend to agree with you but then, how come none of the BOSE owners never thought of it while splurging on a LIFESTYLE PRODUCT(!!!???). The truth, whether at home or abroad is that more often than not, when a maker provides specs, he provides what he wantss you to see. There is no ''the-truth, the-whole-truth & nothing-but-the-truth'' kind of thing here. Contrarily, there is a lot of 'snake-oil' syndrome prevalent. Half the time, the so-called designers themselves are not sure whether to objective or subjective during sonic evaluation of a product, be it a finished product or one under design. In the end, a whole lot of fudged/meaningless stats and specs are presented to the likes of us who are still blissfully oblivious of how dangerous little knowledge can be. For more food for thought, I would like to share this
Zaph|Audio

 

[sonosphere]

I just wonder what is the measurement/ quality control/ adherence to standards being done by Indian designers/ manufacturers. I agree that it should be right if it sounds right, but OTOH if it measures wrong, it must be wrong.

I had read somewhere... > if it sounds right but measures wrong, then you are measuring the wrong criteria :lol:

 

[soulforged]

Another Indian amp maker which IIRC, has been inadvertently left out. B'lore FMs are requested to provide the present status and/or feed-back on these.

valve amplifier india el 34

http://www.starcaudio.com/images/P8221831.JPG

http://www.starcaudio.com/files/SA-10_SE.pdf

I have only seen these amps, never heard them. Finishing-wise I was not very impressed and felt it was overpriced. But to be fair to these guys, someone's gotta listen to them before making a judgement. We all know how much importance we accord to looks (at least the bacholars in the room ).

 

[askii2]

Yeah, stands to logic so I tend to agree with you but then, how come none of the BOSE owners never thought of it while splurging on a LIFESTYLE PRODUCT(!!!???).

Let's not drag BOSE into this. I never liked bose systems and will never recommend them to anyone. However they have never cheated their customers. Their products have clever marketing and cleverly written specs.

The truth, whether at home or abroad is that more often than not, when a maker provides specs, he provides what he wantss you to see. There is no ''the-truth, the-whole-truth & nothing-but-the-truth'' kind of thing here. Contrarily, there is a lot of 'snake-oil' syndrome prevalent. Half the time, the so-called designers themselves are not sure whether to objective or subjective during sonic evaluation of a product, be it a finished product or one under design. In the end, a whole lot of fudged/meaningless stats and specs are presented to the likes of us who are still blissfully oblivious of how dangerous little knowledge can be. For more food for thought, I would like to share this
Zaph|Audio

Read above, I'll still call them cleverly written statistics. In developed countries statistics have to be correct to the extent mentioned. In India the problem we face is there is absolutely no legal protection for buyers if the specs are false. Say a music system says 60W PMPO and has 4W RMS powered amplifier and speakers. I doubt whether we can file a complaint with consumer court in this case. At best court will grant the buyer a few thousand rupees compensation and will let the manufacturer/seller go free with little penalty after that. In US or europe, a manufacturer making blatant false claims will certainly go out of business.

 

[Hiten]

We all know how much importance we accord to looks (at least the bacholars in the room ).

Yes soulforged. If it sounds good I dont know why it shouldn't look good. The amps I mean :lol:
Generally Indian designers don't give attention to details, neatness and finish of the product. Or even if they want to they have to take in to account overall cost of the product plus competition as the audio markets is small.

 

[moktan]

Sanjay Patel founder and CEO of Ciamara..

http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showthread.php?2206-Greetings-from-Ciamara-Manhattan-NY

Ciamara


just got these on the net while looking for something else..so thought i would share...by the way you should visit their website and check the prices...

 

[Hiten]

Thanks Moktan for the link. Looks very good. Have range products from tube to music servers to loudspeakers. Good to see Indian audiophile startup in US. They have couple of clients in India as well.
Thanks again.
Regards

 

[ravi_d]

Deleted spam.


Are you an Indian Audio Designer err... a Spammer? :lol:

 

[lenvin]

There is one more Dilip Bajaj ... of pace electronics ... who designs amps ...

 

[square_wave]

If you are talking about true hi-end gear, the ones I have heard are below;

Cadence Canasya
Acoustic Portrait CPA -3

I have heard about some really good amps made by the following brands. Never heard them though.

Rethm
Audire

 

[navin advani]

Mo Naim is the promoter at Homestore Inc afaik.

Talking of Mo, it brings to mind a certain Mo Iqbal (Pakistani descent) who founded Monitor Audio. Story has it he went into Audio for all the right reasons - he wanted a tax write - off! :lol:

Seriously I have seen audio make millionaires out of billionaires once too often.

Cadence
Acoustic Portrait
Rethm
Audire

I dont know if this will age me but I remember the following names....

• Ashoke Mukherjee of Sonodyne
• Sushil Anand of Nova Audio
• Shyam Bajaj of Norge (ex-Tandberg and aka Eastern Electronics)
• Manubhai Desai of Cosmic Radio
• The Mulchadani brothers of BUSH Radio (though I dont know if they did any real designing)
• Ramakrishnan MK (and Rui Da Silva who has long left) of R&S Electrocncs (Pulz brand amplifiers)

 

[Hiten]

Thanks Navin. Good to know names behind all the cos.
Wasn't Shyam Bajaj sir with Harmon Kardon ?
Regards

 

[ukjeyaraj]

I dont know if this will age me but I remember the following names....

• Shyam Bajaj of Norge (ex-Tandberg and aka Eastern Electronics)

I think Eastern Electronics is the company manufactures speakers and amplifier under the brand name Norge.

 

[Hiten]

oops. Sorry my mistake, he was with Tandberg.

 

[kohinoorb]

I think Amar Bose has more patents to his name than anyone. As indians we should be proud of what he has achived , in what is generally considered a domain for the most advanced engineers

 

[navin advani]

Wasn't Shyam Bajaj sir with Harmon Kardon ?

No Mithu Sadrangani's company Sahil International (named after his son) is the sole distributor of Harman Intl. home and car audio products in India.

I think Amar Bose has more patents to his name than anyone.

I dont know if this is true. I think Dr. Bose's patents are about 20-25 in number. I am not sure if others have more patents than him. However what is probably more true is that Dr. Bose has been able to commercially exploit his patents better that almost anyone in Audio (Indian or otherwise) except maybe with the exception of Bob Carver (aka Phase Linear).