McCormack gone.. what next ?
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avidyarthy
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Endorse 100% to what Ajay has stated ....
If budget is a constraint ... my case
, and if your current AVR has zone 2 facility ... my case 
, the one can connect a real high power brute to the zone 2 outlet to come up with fantastic 2 channel music.
I checked inside my AVR ... out of curiosity, yes, the zone 2 leads do not intermingle with the rest of the AVR circuitry .... well, it might pull in some amount of electromagnetic what nots generated from the box, but that would be minimal, I guess.
Zone 2 is RESERVED for serious music only ... another room altogether
If budget is a constraint ... my case
, and if your current AVR has zone 2 facility ... my case , the one can connect a real high power brute to the zone 2 outlet to come up with fantastic 2 channel music.I checked inside my AVR ... out of curiosity, yes, the zone 2 leads do not intermingle with the rest of the AVR circuitry .... well, it might pull in some amount of electromagnetic what nots generated from the box, but that would be minimal, I guess.
Zone 2 is RESERVED for serious music only ... another room altogether
Look no further. This combo is made just for you. Infact you don't even need the combo. Just get the UMC-1 and add any good power amp(s) to it. I can assure you that you will not be disappointed, will work well for movies and music. I have tested my UMC-1 extensively for 2 channel music too and it bettered my expectations.
OT: Even the Zone B sounds great on the UMC-1, so I plan to use it in my garden with a pair of Weatherproof speakers(to be purchased) and Squeezebox
. Squeezebox will remain connected to the UMC-1 and I can control and play music using the remote controller(Wi-fi) from the garden.square_wave
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I see some four or five forum members feeling the pain and trying to put some sense into Spidys head. They have been doing it for the last four or five days now. It looks like it is all flying above Spidys head 
The sweet thing is that they are still at it.
The sweet thing is that they are still at it.
square_wave
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It is the toughest thing to do !
If anyone has told you otherwise, they have not even scrapped the surface.
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Oh,oh .. my mentioning Emotiva in above post has rubbed some people the wrong way.
I am aware I cant please stereo aficionados in this discussion.
A stereo setup would be my next step not this one.
By the way, how does one have a multi-ch setup and a 2-ch setup?
Should he keep separate rooms for them ? should he keep separate speakers for them?
Or they can blend and co-exist.
thanks
I am aware I cant please stereo aficionados in this discussion.
A stereo setup would be my next step not this one.
By the way, how does one have a multi-ch setup and a 2-ch setup?
Should he keep separate rooms for them ? should he keep separate speakers for them?
Or they can blend and co-exist.
thanks
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GeorgeO
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It depends on the space available I suppose. I have 2 channel systems in two rooms as well as a third 2 channel in my HT room.
>By the way, how does one have a multi-ch setup and a 2-ch setup?
Should he keep separate rooms for them ? should he keep separate speakers for them?
Or they can blend and co-exist.
>By the way, how does one have a multi-ch setup and a 2-ch setup?
Should he keep separate rooms for them ? should he keep separate speakers for them?
Or they can blend and co-exist.
they can co-exist.. and you need only one set of speakers. i am also shooting for a similar setup in the long run as two separate large systems have a very low WAF
assuming you go for a pre and power amp, you setup the main speakers with the pre and power amp, connect the cd player tape deck etc to the pre-amp. For movies, you connect the bluray player etc to the avr. the avr will drive the center and rear speakers, for mains, you connect the mains pre-outs (this is a must in your avr) as an input to the pre-amp. to play movies, both pre-power and avr need to be on. for music only pre-power.
for subwoofer, its a pain in the neck. i think the only decent option (apart from manually switching the cables) is to set all other speakers to small in your avr's setup, mains to large, and then feed the tape out from the pre-amp to the sub input. the sub should have both hpf and lpf or it wont work.
assuming you go for a pre and power amp, you setup the main speakers with the pre and power amp, connect the cd player tape deck etc to the pre-amp. For movies, you connect the bluray player etc to the avr. the avr will drive the center and rear speakers, for mains, you connect the mains pre-outs (this is a must in your avr) as an input to the pre-amp. to play movies, both pre-power and avr need to be on. for music only pre-power.
for subwoofer, its a pain in the neck. i think the only decent option (apart from manually switching the cables) is to set all other speakers to small in your avr's setup, mains to large, and then feed the tape out from the pre-amp to the sub input. the sub should have both hpf and lpf or it wont work.
square_wave
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Ooops..did not know you had changed course towards HT. Emotiva is the way to go then. Best of luck !
Very much possible in the same room, like many others I have done it. Since, I am passionate about both music and movies, so I have both in a dedicated treated, sound-proofed entertainment room. Room Treatment is more from music POV but works pretty well for movies too. I had iniitally blended them before by sharing my amp and front speakers, but have now kept them seperate with only the front B&W speakers being shared.
If possible, I would have had two seperate rooms but I don't have that luxury
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Hi borg,
I think the circuits for music and 5.1 channel movie sound are different
Regards
Hi borg,
I think the circuits for music and 5.1 channel movie sound are different
Regards
No, at an electronics level, the design principles and circuits of an amp are no different between a stereo and HT power amp. How one keeps the power supplies separate, amount of capacitor banks, quality of the components used etc. are the ones that may differentiate one from the other (I am not talking Class A vs. Class B or Tube vs. SS; most of them are Solid State Class AB) Good quality Stereo amps and HT amps keep away from any frequency shaping in the power amp stage. Preamps are a different story.
Cheers.
Hi anilva,
What about the source direct switch that bypasses certain areas? I'm not into receivers so if you could clarify for Borg and me would be great. Cos I think in this way the music has a 'purer' path with lesser components in the path no? This is what I was meaning to mean to illustrate how a music signal could be purer with lesser additions and inteferences than a movie's soundtrack which is processed more.
regards
What about the source direct switch that bypasses certain areas? I'm not into receivers so if you could clarify for Borg and me would be great. Cos I think in this way the music has a 'purer' path with lesser components in the path no? This is what I was meaning to mean to illustrate how a music signal could be purer with lesser additions and inteferences than a movie's soundtrack which is processed more.
regards
Stevieboy,
Your point is valid, but most of the good AV receivers of today have a pure direct option and bypasses all equalizations.
Cheers.
Most AVR's have a direct line option, but they still don't have the soundstage or detail that a dedicated preamp would have...
I have heard a night and day difference in all kinds of comparisons.
If the difference were merely an afternoon and night kinda :lol::lol::lol::lol: it would still be worth it.... But it ain't...
IMHO, going the AVR route is a big compromise. A BIG BIG compromise... However, if Spidey is ok with it then it's all fine...
I have heard a night and day difference in all kinds of comparisons.
If the difference were merely an afternoon and night kinda :lol::lol::lol::lol: it would still be worth it.... But it ain't...
IMHO, going the AVR route is a big compromise. A BIG BIG compromise... However, if Spidey is ok with it then it's all fine...
What you say is valid, but I am not addressing Spidey's question, neither I am talking of separates and preamps. I am just citing circuit level approaches between a Stereo power amp and a HT power amp section. Don't want to get into any arguments on sound quality between separates; stereo vs. AVR etc. Different strokes for different folks.
GeorgeO
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Amen to that!
>Different strokes for different folks.
>Different strokes for different folks.
I find this discussion interesting.
1. Music: I run my DAC analog output into the B&K preamp and run it in direct mode. Because I run it in direct mode no output from the .1 of the 5.1 output. All the output goes into Left and right channels. I connect the high level output of the AMP(used for FRONT SPEAKERS) into the REL sub. This is doing a good job.
2. Movies: I run my optical out of the DVD player into B&K preamp and the output of the preamp is connected to the AMP and subsequently to the 5 Speakers and a sub.
I set my preamp in the ULTRA mode meaning the low frequency output is sent to both the fronts and the sub.
In case 1 as I am running in direct mode output will be sent via Left and right channels and I still have my sub live because It is connected to my AMP not the preamp.
In case 2 as I am running in Movies mode low frequency will be sent to both the sub and the fronts.
I guess now I understand this thing. May be I dont have a problem here because I have both low level and high inputs into my sub. Or Am I missing anything here.
Thanks
Pandu
1. Music: I run my DAC analog output into the B&K preamp and run it in direct mode. Because I run it in direct mode no output from the .1 of the 5.1 output. All the output goes into Left and right channels. I connect the high level output of the AMP(used for FRONT SPEAKERS) into the REL sub. This is doing a good job.
2. Movies: I run my optical out of the DVD player into B&K preamp and the output of the preamp is connected to the AMP and subsequently to the 5 Speakers and a sub.
I set my preamp in the ULTRA mode meaning the low frequency output is sent to both the fronts and the sub.
In case 1 as I am running in direct mode output will be sent via Left and right channels and I still have my sub live because It is connected to my AMP not the preamp.
In case 2 as I am running in Movies mode low frequency will be sent to both the sub and the fronts.
I guess now I understand this thing. May be I dont have a problem here because I have both low level and high inputs into my sub. Or Am I missing anything here.
Thanks
Pandu
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