pre amp?? power amp??

[ajinkya]

are you guys trying to prove that there was only one dumb guy who had the courtesy to give a decent answer to my question or are trying to excercise your humour skills?? either ways it is not helping...
come on guys!!
people here have questions... to some they might sound stupid... if you dont have the answer just ignore it rather than passing snide comments...

First, Read the guidelines. Don't just skim over them...try, really to apply your mind and understand them. Here is the link, since you don't seem to understand how to use the Search function on the forum: http://www.hifivision.com/introductions/1786-guidelines-new-members-2.html
It's the first post.

Secondly, your question has been asked and answered Many times. You're wasting your time (and ours) by repeating the same thread again. Members here are helpful, and generous with their time, provided you first make the necessary background search first. Spiro, Venkat, and others gave you a polite reminder to SEARCH the forums for your answer. You seem to have ignored it, and worse yet, tried to make them feel guilty about not answering your question with more details. Since you're new here, two helpful suggestions:

1. Learn forum decorum. Learn decorum in general.
2. Learn to use the forum Search function. It does help. Try it.

Most members here are very polite and courteous, even to rudeness. I, on the other hand, fortunately or unfortunately, am not. Hence this post.

-Jinx.

 

[iaudio]

Arre bhai log, he is 'just confused' about pre and power amps! Why are ya'all giving him so much tenshun asking for specifics and budget?

 

[jaudere]

i have a 60W amp and 100W speakers...
should i use a pre or a power or both?
without them, what am i missing in my sound?

Hi,

what you are missing is "peace of mind". people are happy with Rs 90 radio.they don't miss anything Learn to be happy and you won't miss anything. Searching too much on net is making you unhappy about your present set up.

you don't need preamp if you have a single source and if you don't like to fiddle with equalizers. power amp is must. you won't get any sound without that.

If you like the sound of present set up, you don't need either of them.If you don't like the sound, there are just too many possibilities, right from problem in the electrical supply to problem in your ears. You are in the best position to tell whether you are missing anything or not.No one other than you answer that question.

Hope this helps:indifferent14:

Somehow,I feel that the way you are hitting back at HFV members like that, you will be at loss rather than the members. the start of the thread itself is odd. You have written "Preamp??, power amp??". now that can mean anything on earth.

 

[hemantwaghe]

Hi,

what you are missing is "peace of mind". people are happy with Rs 90 radio.they don't miss anything Learn to be happy and you won't miss anything. Searching too much on net is making you unhappy about your present set up.

you don't need preamp if you have a single source and if you don't like to fiddle with equalizers. power amp is must. you won't get any sound without that.

If you like the sound of present set up, you don't need either of them.If you don't like the sound, there are just too many possibilities, right from problem in the electrical supply to problem in your ears. You are in the best position to tell whether you are missing anything or not.No one other than you answer that question.

Hope this helps:indifferent14:

Somehow,I feel that the way you are hitting back at HFV members like that, you will be at loss rather than the members. the start of the thread itself is odd. You have written "Preamp??, power amp??". now that can mean anything on earth.

Doctor after a long gap??
Nice to see ya.

Doc maybe procuring philips 8 inch fullrange
will need your help..

 

[rijuc]

what kind of amp do you have??
is it an integrated amp (this is one which will have both the pre and power amp as one unit) if this is the case u cud connect your spkrs directly to the unit, also do connect a CDP and get going

a pre amp is the controller ,u cud control the tones / balance/ volume

if, what u have is a power amp ,only then u need to buy a separate pre, coz a power block will not have any sort of controls

a power amp is the one which amplifys the signal fed to it via the source (cdp) controlled by the pre to the spkrs


hope it helps

i have an integrated amplifier...norge...
so is it that the pre influences the quality and the power influences the quantity?
it is not that im planning to buy them but im just trying know their applications...
is it better to have a top end int amp or mid level pre and power?

 

[hemantwaghe]

i have an integrated amplifier...norge...
so is it that the pre influences the quality and the power influences the quantity?
it is not that im planning to buy them but im just trying know their applications...
is it better to have a top end int amp or mid level pre and power?

AFAIK you cannot attach any pre or power amp to Norge..,
also your source ? from which you listen to music???

your budget??

also your speakers.....give us details like name ,model no and specifications

Norge has model no..see carefully and you can read it!

 

[malvai]

i have an integrated amplifier...norge...
so is it that the pre influences the quality and the power influences the quantity?
it is not that im planning to buy them but im just trying know their applications...
is it better to have a top end int amp or mid level pre and power?

see rijuc, under ideal conditions its BEST to have a top end pre/power/source/speakers.

It all depends on one's wherewithal.

But to put it very very plainly in one line: A darned good Integrated amp can shoot missiles though a mediocre Pre/power combo.

Now, what is the definition of 'very good', because one man's 'very good' is another man's 'so-so'.

In essence 'very good' in one price band is 'ho-hum-okay' in another price band.

And then the speakers, they are equally important. And final tweaks are the cables and IC's.

If I were to put money outflow ofr componets into to percentages it would be:
pre+power (or integrated) 30% + 40% Speakers + Source 20%+ Spkr cables, IC's and other tweaks 10% = 100% wallet drain!

I hope this helped.

 

[suri]

see rijuc, under ideal conditions its BEST to have a top end pre/power/source/speakers.

It all depends on one's wherewithal.

But to put it very very plainly in one line: A darned good Integrated amp can shoot missiles though a mediocre Pre/power combo.

Now, what is the definition of 'very good', because one man's 'very good' is another man's 'so-so'.

In essence 'very good' in one price band is 'ho-hum-okay' in another price band.

And then the speakers, they are equally important. And final tweaks are the cables and IC's.

If I were to put money outflow ofr componets into to percentages it would be:
pre+power (or integrated) 30% + 40% Speakers + Source 20%+ Spkr cables, IC's and other tweaks 10% = 100% wallet drain!

I hope this helped.

hehehe - malvai -

thanks for defusing the tenshun in my mind!!!

regds
suri

 

[jaudere]

Doctor after a long gap??
Nice to see ya.

Doc maybe procuring philips 8 inch fullrange
will need your help..

HI,

Don't buy them. i have a pair. i can give it to you for experiments. My in laws will be reaching Mumbai on month end. Only expense you have to do is collect speakers from Vile parle.

 

[rijuc]

someone here quoted a good pre/power to be in the range of a lakh and a half... so does that mean to have a good stereo setup one needs to have a budget of 4.5 lakhs?

 

[sachin_k5]

You name a budget and we will suggest you a setup that fits that hyeah:

 

[hemantwaghe]

HI,

Don't buy them. i have a pair. i can give it to you for experiments. My in laws will be reaching Mumbai on month end. Only expense you have to do is collect speakers from Vile parle.

So gracious of you doc..you are my saviour
will be sending PM so that we can have each others numbers and schedul confirmed
Vile Parle - No issue -I have another ( parents) palce in Goregaon and keep on going there!

Thanks again thanks a lot!

 

[thekinge]

instead of taking the pain of putting this post you might have as well ignored it... i was looking for an answer not a suggestion... guess you didnt notice the question marks on the title...

hmm.... suffice to say that most of the members here have already responded back in kind.

riju, have some courtesy to thank someone who helped you. Spiro did the searching and posted the links here, so Mr.I_dont_search could just click away and understand.

thekinge is right too, please do use the search functionality. These topics have been discussed plenty of times. Trust me, it is not as difficult as you think.

Both post above shows nothing but your arrogance and lack of respect for others....

Hi rijuc,

There is one golden rule which is very useful.
"Advise is free, time is not."

Thanks

Thanks santhol2, hemantwaghe, vivekam and others

 

[alcy]

. so does that mean to have a good stereo setup one needs to have a budget of 4.5 lakhs?

EDIT: ...nevermind.

 

[hemantwaghe]

someone here quoted a good pre/power to be in the range of a lakh and a half... so does that mean to have a good stereo setup one needs to have a budget of 4.5 lakhs?

What is/will be your source?

anyway if you are lucky a vintage Japanese Pre Power can be procured for as low as 6-7 thousand..

you listen to MP3 or Orignal Cd or any other?(Flac/Vinyl/Casette etc?)

are you able to read model numbers of maranz and your speakers??

 

[suri]

What is/will be your source?

anyway if you are lucky a vintage Japanese Pre Power can be procured for as low as 6-7 thousand..

you listen to MP3 or Orignal Cd or any other?(Flac/Vinyl/Casette etc?)

are you able to read model numbers of maranz and your speakers??

hi hemantwaghe -

let me just say -

i have lost a lot of money on the street that Dinyaar works on! (dalal)

and i have to buy vintage japanese pre-power (god bless my impoverished soul)-

and i have lost my reading specatcles!-

i will SEND YOU A PM-

good night!

regds

 

[rijuc]

i guess i had made a post which says i dont intend to buy the pre amp or the power amp... want to know their application... where does budget come into the picture here?

 

[sidvee]

see rijuc, under ideal conditions its BEST to have a top end pre/power/source/speakers.

It all depends on one's wherewithal.

But to put it very very plainly in one line: A darned good Integrated amp can shoot missiles though a mediocre Pre/power combo.

Now, what is the definition of 'very good', because one man's 'very good' is another man's 'so-so'.

In essence 'very good' in one price band is 'ho-hum-okay' in another price band.

And then the speakers, they are equally important. And final tweaks are the cables and IC's.

If I were to put money outflow ofr componets into to percentages it would be:
pre+power (or integrated) 30% + 40% Speakers + Source 20%+ Spkr cables, IC's and other tweaks 10% = 100% wallet drain!

I hope this helped.

Malvai - I agree on the numbers as well. A bigger chunk of the budget has to be expended on speakers as they will make the biggest difference in sound.
Cheers
Sid

 

[hemantwaghe]

And why forget Indian Pre Power ...like Pulz? Sometimes back my Pulz Pre power too was for sale on this forum .around 7-8 K!

 

[rijuc]

hi,
i am using stereo pre amp + power amp to listen my music. previously i used an integrated amp also.so now please explain what you are expecting?.if any thing i can help, i will try to explain along with our forum members.
regards,

are u using them with yr earlier amp?
what difference did it make?
is it that pre amp improves quality and power amp improves quantity?