Preparing for a 9.1 setup.. Worth it ? Your thoughts please...

[sdurani]

Hope you meant to mount the front heights above the front left & right speakers, but near ceiling....

That will only give the impression of a taller front soundstage.

I meant on the ceiling above you, to give the impression of sounds coming from above you. Real height effect.

 

[elangoas]

VoW.. This is great... Didn't think about speakers on the roof.... So placing the speakers on the roof should be some where between the front's & surround speaker's...

What kind of speakers would be ideal for this ceiling speakers...I don't think a BS could fit there...My wife would kill me if i put speakers in the ceiling hyeah:

So Bipole should fit in the ceiling i guess...

 

[kneo]

Just read that you wanted to get a sub, used amp and satellites in 20K. With this budget, even if you go used on all components, you'd not do better than entry level. If you don't have a sub, I'd strongly recommend adding a very good sub in a 5.0 setup instead of upgrading to 7.0 or 9.0. The sonic advantage that you'd get with a sub would be much more than additional surround speakers.

 

[sdurani]

Low profile BS would fit up there, or any small speaker.

 

[elangoas]

Just read that you wanted to get a sub, used amp and satellites in 20K. With this budget, even if you go used on all components, you'd not do better than entry level. If you don't have a sub, I'd strongly recommend adding a very good sub in a 5.0 setup instead of upgrading to 7.0 or 9.0. The sonic advantage that you'd get with a sub would be much more than additional surround speakers.

Thanks Kneo... Yeah understand... Am replacing the speakers & buying a new sub woofer.. So upgrading from 5.0 & adding sub woofer simultaneously... Probably i can push for 25K max... But beyond that:sad:..

Low profile BS would fit up there, or any small speaker.

Cool.. So a satellite speaker should be able to comfortably do the duty....

 

[m.a.sara]

IMHO, If I want to compare the satisfaction level of 5.1/7.1/9.1 (provided all have very good sources/components. With 100% satisfaction as relative value for a 9.1 setup)

A good 5.1 set up will give 90% satisfaction.
A good 7.1 - 95%

I've a 7.1 compatible but not invested yet on the 2 speakers yet.

If I've a budget for it, what will I do?

I will upgrade my sub instead of buying those 2 speakers and make it 7.1.

Because I know improvement in movie watching experience will be much more with very very good sub in a 5.1 system Vs same sub in a 7.1 system.

 

[elangoas]

Thanks for your suggestion....You can call my future 9.1 HT setup as a budget one... I juz can't spend anything more than 20K but @ the same time need a good HT set up beyond 5.1...

 

[elangoas]

Digging this thread for some more inputs....

I realised that we had a pair of Onida KY Theater speakers @ home... I guess satellite speakers.... I think It is the same speakers that came with Onida Poison Theater also...

They are small satellite speakers (Full Range Speakers) which resemble Bose HT speakers... I opened up the speaker grill to find the specification of the speaker..

The Manufacturer of these speakers are iwai speakers Iwai Electronics Pvt. Ltd.

it had iwai FF1101-210A, 4 Ohm 10W printed on it... There are 2 speakers (one above the other) Juz like Bose... So does that make it 8 Ohms & 20W totally? My friend who is lil aware abt this electronics told me that is serial/parallel connection & makes it 8 Ohms 20W.....

If it is 4 - 8 Ohms, then i think it can be safely used with my AVR for surround wides/heights.....Appreciate if someone could enlighten me on this...

It could be any of these speakers....

Iwai Electronics Pvt. Ltd.

(or)

Iwai Electronics Pvt. Ltd.

 

[Murlidher]

great post.. I am looking forward to your 9.1 experience

 

[elangoas]

great post.. I am looking forward to your 9.1 experience

Sure buddy.. Will share my experience when i complete it...:thumbsup:

 

[elangoas]

Tried to get hold of a picture of the satellites from the net...

The satellites that i have are exactly the same as these speakers.....

So would these work for surrounds?

 

[haisaikat]

yes, from theoretical aspect connecting two 4 ohms speaker in series to a single speaker output terminal of avr will indeed make then work as if a 8 ohm speaker. Howeve rbe careful and connecting lower impedance loads than compatible with AVR might damage it, so use at your discretion. May be someone have had a real life experience of using a setup as such can better help you.

 

[elangoas]

yes, from theoretical aspect connecting two 4 ohms speaker in series to a single speaker output terminal of avr will indeed make then work as if a 8 ohm speaker. Howeve rbe careful and connecting lower impedance loads than compatible with AVR might damage it, so use at your discretion. May be someone have had a real life experience of using a setup as such can better help you.

Thanks buddy... Appreciate your inputs.... Sure will take care.... My Onkyo AVR is capable of handling 4 - 8 Ohms speakers... So i guess shouldn't be a problem...

 

[haisaikat]

Thanks buddy... Appreciate your inputs.... Sure will take care.... My Onkyo AVR is capable of handling 4 - 8 Ohms speakers... So i guess shouldn't be a problem...

Impressive AVR, based on your words i looked at the manual online and even surprised to see it has support for 16 ohm impedance too.

http://www.eu.onkyo.com/downloads/2/1/7/1/8/Manual_TX-NR818_English.pdf

You can connect speakers with an impedance of between
4 and 16 ohms. If the impedance of any of the connected
speakers is 4 ohms or more, but less than 6 ohms, be sure
to set the minimum speaker impedance to 4ohms
(? page 59). If you use speakers with a lower
impedance, and use the amplifier at high volume levels
for a long period of time, the built-in protection circuit
may be activated.

 

[elangoas]

Impressive AVR, based on your words i looked at the manual online and even surprised to see it has support for 16 ohm impedance too.

http://www.eu.onkyo.com/downloads/2/1/7/1/8/Manual_TX-NR818_English.pdf

Thanks for reminding me abt changing speaker impedance.... Yes.. It is a very good AVR... Was a blind buy hyeah: & am extremely impressed with this capabilities...

 

[elangoas]

Found an used stereo amplifier with Pre-in & Out with Jumpers connecting them... So i guezz i should be able to connect to my Onkyo AVR, if i remove the jumpers....

Here is a reference link to the stereo amplifier ? KENWOOD STEREO INTRGRATED AMPLIFIER A-3X-??????????

Am getting this Kenwood Stereo Amplifier along with Sony hi-fi system bookshelf speakers for 5K hyeah: Hope it is a good offer...( will physically check it this weekend)

My Onkyo AVR is 7.2 channels with 9.2 pre-outs... So this Kenwood stereo amplifier would act as a power amplifier for the additional speakers...

Appreciate your inputs....

 

[haisaikat]

For surround 5K is a very good deal.

Does that have a remote? because I am not sure if your onkyo pre-outs support gain control (might look for options for Zone 2 - 3 volume control on your onkyo remote) through the onkyo remote in which case you need to crank up the stereo volume manually every time when you change the volume level of the AVR.

 

[elangoas]

For surround 5K is a very good deal.

Does that have a remote? because I am not sure if your onkyo pre-outs support gain control (might look for options for Zone 2 - 3 volume control on your onkyo remote) through the onkyo remote in which case you need to crank up the stereo volume manually every time when you change the volume level of the AVR.

Nope... It doesn't have a remote...Not sure if it supports gain control....

What i thought was i could set Maximum volume on this stereo amplifier & leave it fixed and i could control the stereo amplifier volume thru Onkyo AVR.....

 

[haisaikat]

What i thought was i could set Maximum volume on this stereo amplifier & leave it fixed and i could control the stereo amplifier volume thru Onkyo AVR.....

I think pre-outs should respond to AVR volume control but you have to verify that. But I believe setting amp to 100% volume may not be always good especially if there is any hum it might be annoyingly amplified. Probably the only way to figure out is through experimenting.

 

[elangoas]

I think pre-outs should respond to AVR volume control but you have to verify that. But I believe setting amp to 100% volume may not be always good especially if there is any hum it might be annoyingly amplified. Probably the only way to figure out is through experimenting.

Right... Then i would set the amplifier volume @ approx 80% & then try to tweak the best setting....