Speaker cables - Bare copper vs. tinned copper

[RRR]

How about 8473. How does it compare to 8477 and 8471 ?

 

[reignofchaos]

How about 8473. How does it compare to 8477 and 8471 ?

Same cable - different thickness.

 

[Nikhil]

Thanks for the suggestion. Was your recommendation of belden 8471 based on my Nad amplifier+ Dali Zensor combination?

My suggestion was based on your comment that your gear had a warm signature. I have not heard the NAD + Dali Zensor combination.

 

[randhir_s]

I would suggest trying out the Belden 8471. Its the same cable as the 8477 but is the 16 awg version.
In terms of sound it is a little quicker and leaner but still has the same traits as the 8477.

Just wondering why 16 awg would be better then 12 awg. As the awg increases the thickness decreases. 12awg is 3.2sqmm whereas 16awg is 1.3sqmm.
Belden 8477 12 AWG has a resistance of 1.8 Ohm/1000ft whereas Belden 8471 16 awg has a resistance of 4.49 Ohm/1000ft. Even the cost of Belden 8477 12 AWG is much higher then Belden 8471

 

[Nikhil]

Just wondering why 16 awg would be better then 12 awg. As the awg increases the thickness decreases. 12awg is 3.2sqmm whereas 16awg is 1.3sqmm.
Belden 8477 12 AWG has a resistance of 1.8 Ohm/1000ft whereas Belden 8471 16 awg has a resistance of 4.49 Ohm/1000ft. Even the cost of Belden 8477 12 AWG is much higher then Belden 8471

The thicker gauge of the 12awg gives you more low end.
In case of the 16 awg the thinner cable attenuates the low frequencies.

Which one is better is relative to your system and your taste.
I've used both and preferred the 8477 in my setup.


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[arj]

Just wondering why 16 awg would be better then 12 awg. As the awg increases the thickness decreases. 12awg is 3.2sqmm whereas 16awg is 1.3sqmm.
Belden 8477 12 AWG has a resistance of 1.8 Ohm/1000ft whereas Belden 8471 16 awg has a resistance of 4.49 Ohm/1000ft. Even the cost of Belden 8477 12 AWG is much higher then Belden 8471

How music gets represented seems to have a lot more factors than just the resistance. while the capacitance and inductance also vary a lot due to configurations of the wire winding , its coating and dielectric does matter.

If you are really keen you can read a paper by pass labs.

 

[sachinchavan 15865]

The thicker gauge of the 12awg gives you more low end.
In case of the 16 awg the thinner cable attenuates the low frequencies.

For this reason I’ve biwired with 8477 at the lower and 8471 at the upper post. Single wiring with 8471 sounded thin and with 8477 lacked brilliance. Biwiring (as above) gave me the result I liked. If the speakers didn’t have the provision, I’d have gone with the 8477 (thicker). But that could depend on one’s amp-speaker combo and sound preference.