ST50 Owners' Thread - First impressions, Reviews, Tweaks, etc.

One thing surely to notice here is that these ratings are for US and although the PQ, Feature & Design ratings might hold true for India but the pricing (value) might be entirely a different ball game.

Found in another forum. ST50 tops in all. Value,feature, picture quality and design.

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One thing surely to notice here is that these ratings are for US and although the PQ, Feature & Design ratings might hold true for India but the pricing (value) might be entirely a different ball game.
Different websites will give different ratings. These can be considered but should not be taken as THE FINAL word.

In the "Value" column, I suppose that "Value" means "Value for Money". The ST50 is actually a mid-level plasma but in India it is sold as a near-premium brand. Much like Honda Civics and Toyota Corollas. So what you said is true - the value can be taken in different context in India.

When I was hunting for the TV, I considered the following models:

Price range: Around 100,000
Plasma: Panasonic 50UT50/50ST50 and Samsung 51E550
LED: Sony 46HX850/46HX750, Samsung UA46ES6800R/UA46ES6200R, LG 46LM6700/6690

I demo'ed all of them. Sadly, Panasonic 50UT50 was not available anywhere at that time.

I liked the Sony models, particularly the HX850 but the price was too high. Same was the case with LG. Almost all preferred LED TVs were basically costing more per square inch. In the showroom, there is no way one can test the light bleeding. I researched considerably on this factor and wondered whether that it would affect me. Also, room brightness, power consumption, and other such factors were also considered. In the end, I arrived at my own conclusion that only the following mattered to me most:

(with due apologies to the dialogue writer of The Dirty Picture) Picture Quality. Picture Quality. Picture Quality.

And when "Picture Quality" is considered, the black levels, shadow details, colour accuracy, and all other associated factors gain importance. I watch a lot of BDs and that was a very big factor. So final decision was between ST50 and E550. I felt that the E550 had more reflective surface and although it was lot cheaper (with BD package to boot), I finally settled for ST50.
 
Hi,

Panasonic guy came today for installation, verified the running hours. It was 109 hours and started 86 times. It is a DEMO piece. I had specifically told the dealer not to send a demo piece. Called them up, they mentioned that they will send a different packed piece.
 
And when "Picture Quality" is considered, the black levels, shadow details, colour accuracy, and all other associated factors gain importance. I watch a lot of BDs and that was a very big factor. So final decision was between ST50 and E550. I felt that the E550 had more reflective surface and although it was lot cheaper (with BD package to boot), I finally settled for ST50.


hello kix,
Thanks for the detail analysis.

Was this the only distinguishing factor (E550 had more reflective surface) for ST50 to be a winner.

No doubt ST50 is the champ HDTV but E550 is almost 20-25K cheaper and free BDP. but on other hand samsung has only 1 yr warranty compared to 3yrs by panny.

did you find any other factors for overrulling E550.

Please provide your opinion on this.

Thanks,
Myzus
 
hello kix,
Thanks for the detail analysis.

Was this the only distinguishing factor (E550 had more reflective surface) for ST50 to be a winner.

No doubt ST50 is the champ HDTV but E550 is almost 20-25K cheaper and free BDP. but on other hand samsung has only 1 yr warranty compared to 3yrs by panny.

did you find any other factors for overrulling E550.

Please provide your opinion on this.

Thanks,
Myzus

Hi just4kix, thanks for sharing! I am currently shopping around for another plasma. Have been a bit dismayed by Panasonic's 2012 pricing, and pleasantly surprised by the equivalent Samsung's.

Apart from the reflective nature of the E550's screen, what did you feel about the TV?
 
hello kix,
Thanks for the detail analysis.

Was this the only distinguishing factor (E550 had more reflective surface) for ST50 to be a winner.

No doubt ST50 is the champ HDTV but E550 is almost 20-25K cheaper and free BDP. but on other hand samsung has only 1 yr warranty compared to 3yrs by panny.

did you find any other factors for overrulling E550.

Please provide your opinion on this.

Thanks,
Myzus
There are no particular factor other than reflective surface. There was no accurate method to compare ST50 and E550. I could not find them side by side anywhere so it all came to what you remembered when you viewed a demo. Hence I decided to go with the opinion of experts on ST50 - everyone was simply raving. I could not find any "reliable" review of E550. I also made an "unscientific" assumption that since E550 is price-matched to UT50, both must be equivalent. Very lame, I know. But that is that.

Then again, I had the budget too. So I thought, 'why not flow with the tide?'. Hence went with ST50. But that does not mean E550 is bad. In fact, it is a good buy.
 
There are no particular factor other than reflective surface. There was no accurate method to compare ST50 and E550. I could not find them side by side anywhere so it all came to what you remembered when you viewed a demo. Hence I decided to go with the opinion of experts on ST50 - everyone was simply raving. I could not find any "reliable" review of E550. I also made an "unscientific" assumption that since E550 is price-matched to UT50, both must be equivalent. Very lame, I know. But that is that.

Then again, I had the budget too. So I thought, 'why not flow with the tide?'. Hence went with ST50. But that does not mean E550 is bad. In fact, it is a good buy.

Thanks for sharing. Here is a link to comprehensive review of the E550 i found online. Pretty highly rated! The model number is slightly different, but i am pretty sure this is the same as the India model - Samsung PN51E550D1 3D Smart Plasma HDTV Review - TelevisionInfo.com
 
When I was hunting for myself last month, I was also seriously considering E550 but the 1 yr warranty (and Samsung not offering extended warranty even for a price) put me off. With the high chances of these products going kaput, I would not take the risk of going with 1 year only.. also I was not able to see the demo in 3-4 samsung showrooms I visited at that time (470 model was mostly on display). Finally the range of 2012 Panasonic plasmas, their R&D backing, pricing I was getting for UT50 (little less than E550 and that too with 3 yrs warranty) made me go for Panasonic.

However I must add that almost everyone who has brought E550 seems to be very happy with it - someone also mentioned that its difficult to watch it in daytime/bright lights etc so decide accordingly.
 
When I was hunting for myself last month, I was also seriously considering E550 but the 1 yr warranty (and Samsung not offering extended warranty even for a price) put me off. With the high chances of these products going kaput, I would not take the risk of going with 1 year only.. also I was not able to see the demo in 3-4 samsung showrooms I visited at that time (470 model was mostly on display). Finally the range of 2012 Panasonic plasmas, their R&D backing, pricing I was getting for UT50 (little less than E550 and that too with 3 yrs warranty) made me go for Panasonic.

However I must add that almost everyone who has brought E550 seems to be very happy with it - someone also mentioned that its difficult to watch it in daytime/bright lights etc so decide accordingly.

hi rajat,
Thats exactly my concern about 1 yr warranty. Although i remember someone in this forum said they are giving extended warranty for a price.

Its got excellent reviews everywhere.

Btw did u get 50UT50 or 42UT50. what price did u get? howz the SD content ? Did u post any pics of your TV. if not please do post. if yes please let me know the link.

Also if possible please post some pics of SD channels in this forum or any other appropriate forum and let me know.

Thanks for your opinion.

Thanks,
Myzus.
 
I am not a ST50 owner yet, but quite willing to be. I have been reading and reviewing several plasmas recently. In Vadodara, I got the following quotes:

1) 75K for 42ST50
2) 42K for 42XT50
3) 55K for 50XT50

These quotes are after a passionate negotiation with a known dealer. The offer excludes HT but includes 3D eyewear. I am particularly interested for 42ST50 but the dealer failed to commit for the stock.

Until the stock arrives, I want to seek advices from the existing/would be owners of ST50 . Shall I go for it?
 
I had been after my dealer for quotes on GT50 and ST50 all the models. He kept delaying and after I went today he said there is no supply and it will take more than a month to get either of the models. Also the 65ST50 hasnt even launched.

This is bad news for me as I was really looking to buy 3 of them. Two 42 inch and 1 50/65 inch. Will probably have to look at Samsung now.

He was also insisting I got got the 30 models and only difference being hertz. I didn't want to correct him on that. So wondering if he really has a supply problem or he wants to clear the old stock.
 
hi rajat,
Thats exactly my concern about 1 yr warranty. Although i remember someone in this forum said they are giving extended warranty for a price.

Its got excellent reviews everywhere.

Btw did u get 50UT50 or 42UT50. what price did u get? howz the SD content ? Did u post any pics of your TV. if not please do post. if yes please let me know the link.

Also if possible please post some pics of SD channels in this forum or any other appropriate forum and let me know.

Thanks for your opinion.

Thanks,
Myzus.

I got 50UT50 and think SD content is as good as you would expect on a 50" HDTV, good enough to watch but not as good as HD channels.

Will try and put pics over the weekend.
 
I am not a ST50 owner yet, but quite willing to be. I have been reading and reviewing several plasmas recently. In Vadodara, I got the following quotes:

1) 75K for 42ST50
2) 42K for 42XT50
3) 55K for 50XT50

These quotes are after a passionate negotiation with a known dealer. The offer excludes HT but includes 3D eyewear. I am particularly interested for 42ST50 but the dealer failed to commit for the stock.

Until the stock arrives, I want to seek advices from the existing/would be owners of ST50 . Shall I go for it?

Good prices for all the models - I think you can go for it.
 
Hi,

Panasonic guy came today for installation, verified the running hours. It was 109 hours and started 86 times. It is a DEMO piece. I had specifically told the dealer not to send a demo piece. Called them up, they mentioned that they will send a different packed piece.

shouldnt we be filing a police complaint in such issues? someone selling a second hand piece as new piece for something costing this high?
 
@kwaaii
If you get the 50st50 for 1L go for it.

I have requested the dealer to quote for 50ST50. I read somebody got it for 97K in Bangalore and Flipkart is selling it for something about 1.1L.

The issue now is stock, by the way, is it the same all over India?
 
@kwaaii
If you get the 50st50 for 1L go for it.

I have requested the dealer to quote for 50ST50. I read somebody got it for 97K in Bangalore and Flipkart is selling it for something about 1.1L.

The issue now is stock, by the way, is it the same all over India?

Yes, I got an offer for 97k (including HT), but then realized there is no stock.. !! Waiting for stock to come for further nego...
 
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