heliumflight
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Keep spreading the goodness.I hope World war III can wait till the 22nd of Nov. I should get my new cables by then
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sachinchavan 15865
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Isn’t that because the super-powers of the day were Europeans? USA (with European roots) and Japan (which was a military power) were exceptions. In today’s scenario, the super powers and/military powers are spread across the globe.
World's biggest military: Top 10 list by budget, active and reserve members
China has the world's biggest military based on active personnel with two million. India is second, the United States third and North Korea fourth.
www.usatoday.com
But yes, given the far more complex inter-web of commerce, industry, finance, and even immigrants, it’s a lot more difficult for the world today become bi-polar which is a necessary criterion for a world war. Also, nuclear deterrence, diplomatic relations, non-state actors, economic warfare, regional conflict management reduce the possibility further.
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dvraghavan
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Even during the WW1 and WW2 nobody wanted a World War. But because some people were pushing the envelope too far on what would be tolerated by others, the war resulted. Today, it is not too different. Russia thinks West will not get involved as it tries to grab Ukraine. Israel thinks others would remain silent as it does war in Gaza and Lebanon. China is hoping tide will turn its way if it invades Taiwan. N.Korea has similar ambitions against S.Korea.Isn’t that because the super-powers of the day were Europeans? USA (with European roots) and Japan (which was a military power) were exceptions. In today’s scenario, the super powers and/military powers are spread across the globe.
World's biggest military: Top 10 list by budget, active and reserve members
China has the world's biggest military based on active personnel with two million. India is second, the United States third and North Korea fourth.
But yes, given the far more complex inter-web of commerce, industry, finance, and even immigrants, it’s a lot more difficult for the world today become bi-polar which is a necessary criterion for a world war. Also, nuclear deterrence, diplomatic relations, non-state actors, economic warfare, regional conflict management reduce the possibility further.
All it takes is a few sparks - some miscalculated move by one or more parties and full out war would ensue.
Also note that though officially WW2 was supposed to have started when Hitler sent his forces into Poland, it was preceded by their conquest of Checkosovakia. So for all we know, we may already be in a WW3.
Yes thats true. the other point is today I doubt if any country will go out to war for another nation as the economics of war is so different.Isn’t that because the super-powers of the day were Europeans? USA (with European roots) and Japan (which was a military power) were exceptions. In today’s scenario, the super powers and/military powers are spread across the globe.
World's biggest military: Top 10 list by budget, active and reserve members
China has the world's biggest military based on active personnel with two million. India is second, the United States third and North Korea fourth.
But yes, given the far more complex inter-web of commerce, industry, finance, and even immigrants, it’s a lot more difficult for the world today become bi-polar which is a necessary criterion for a world war. Also, nuclear deterrence, diplomatic relations, non-state actors, economic warfare, regional conflict management reduce the possibility further.
China is the only asian country which could go for Taiwan due to the Semiconductor industry.
Additionally the citizens of today dont war either and most nations do depend on a vote. The US gets involved mostly due to its war industry and keeping its world power ( ie others power in check) but even they may not go to a war again the way got into afghanistan.
So WWIII might be localized wars..again this is all theory
Yogesh
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Not just Rupee-Ruble. Whole world is going to shift to local currency trades. If all goes well, we may see a commodity backed BRICs currency as well.
The world is fed up of western gundagiri. Dollar as a reserve currency is the true reason for western hegemony and West's weapon to punish anybody who transgresses. If the world moves away from Dollar, western hegemony suffers deeply and any Western sanctions become meaningless.
heliumflight
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Ukrainians Fill Streets With Music, Echoing Past War Zones
In subway stations and apartment buildings, artists are playing Bach, Vivaldi and folk songs.
Ukrainians Fill Streets With Music, Echoing Past War Zones (Published 2022)
In subway stations and apartment buildings, artists are playing Bach, Vivaldi and folk songs.
uncle_lazy_at
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WW3 will be with the aliens when they try to show us that our earth is flat.
Donivlapog
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ICBM Satan 2 is being provoked by NATO. Nuclear war in the brink. Mad world.
sachinchavan 15865
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I quizzed Meta AI on the same after reading the above. It turned out to be far better informed and articulate.
Q: Who won the third world war?
A: “There has not been a Third World War. While there have been several major conflicts and crises since World War II, none of them have escalated into a global war on the same scale as the First and Second World Wars.
However, there have been several close calls and major conflicts, including:
- The Cold War (1945-1991): A decades-long period of tension and competition between the United States and the Soviet Union.
- The Korean War (1950-1953): A conflict between North and South Korea, with the United States and other United Nations member states supporting South Korea.
- The Vietnam War (1955-1975): A conflict between the communist North Vietnam and the anti-communist South Vietnam, with the United States providing military support to South Vietnam.
- The Gulf War (1990-1991): A conflict between Iraq and a coalition of countries led by the United States, in response to Iraq's invasion of Kuwait.
- The War on Terror (2001-present): A global military campaign launched by the United States and its allies in response to the September 11 attacks.
It's worth noting that the concept of a "Third World War" is often used in a hypothetical or speculative sense, and there is no consensus on what such a conflict would look like or who the parties involved would be.”
square_wave
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With such a stockpile of nuclear weapons on either side, such massive collaborative missadventures that led to WW2 will not happen now. If it does happen, the entire human race will be destroyed. So it will not happen. No one is that crazy!
Prolonged crazy battles like this will keep happening but will remain regional.
Well people world over did think along the same lines after the first world war too, the advent and constant progress of more efficient means of killing another human being scared everyone, the machine gun, the tank, the use of air power, submarines, chemical and nerve agents, when faced with all this, what chance did human flesh and blood had against such overwhelming instruments of destruction? Nothing and yet.
Empires were trembling and in them there was an innate fear of collapse, a natural fear that is present in anything that is great and has been substantiated for as long as these empires were. Do you see the situation as very different now?
The hegemon that US is and has been ever since the end of WW II is being challenged, how is it to respond to such challenges? By misplays and misadventures such as Ukraine.
An average European could barely stomach the idea of another war after November 1918 and yet there they were barely 20 years later. Your leaders and our leaders, they do not lead us. Churchill in May of 1945 asked his chief of military staff to conjure Operation Unthinkable, yes in May 1945, to subjugate Soviet Union. So yeah, do not trust your leaders to make the right choice for you and fear nuclear weapons.
History repeats itself and as a species we have never really learned, ours is a history of mistrust, betrayal and bloodshed. It is no coincidence that when you read history, you read about wars and struggles as opposed to stretches of peace and tranquility and economic contentment. Be here long enough and it will all repeat.
Better to listen to music while we can.
I have just this week built a new plinth for my turntable. This is yet to be fully configured and setup. Hope they wait until next weekend to drop the nukes. Atleast I won't have regrets of not listening to my new plinth
we will all die any way. by war, disease, old age, accident, bitten by a mosquito...why worry about what you cannot control
Listen to music and live happy before you die.
Switching off from news might just make you happier
Listen to music and live happy before you die.
Switching off from news might just make you happier
square_wave
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But still...there is nothing as devastatingly "permanent" as a nuclear holocaust. There never was such a great deterrent in the past. So I still believe that such larger collaborative wars where everyone goes to war will not happen again unless you are suicidal. If that happens, apart from a few rich people who live in bunkers, all will be wiped out. One of the reasons why crazy people with senseless ideologies need to be kept out of power.
Agreed about the nuclear fallout, I guess I am not that trusting when it comes to fallibilities of our species.
Such despair about the state of human affairs gave rise to post-modernism and recklessness and an affinity toward anarchy and all that.
Anyway....for the moment though, I am very troubled about my confusion on what will my next speaker be, any help will be greatly appreciated!
frend2001
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The terminology called MAD - Mutual assured destruction ensured that if ever one side went ahead with nuclear attack the other side has sophisticated plans to ensure that even if they didn't survive the initial attack, a fierce nuclear retaliation is imminent.
So this thing alone kept the superpowers to attack each other with nuclear weapons during all those tense cold war years.
And about the conflicts, the world has always had them.
Being a paranoid or even a pessimist about an oncoming WW III is a far fatched worry at best.
Let's focus on whether cables do make any difference after all ?
So this thing alone kept the superpowers to attack each other with nuclear weapons during all those tense cold war years.
And about the conflicts, the world has always had them.
Being a paranoid or even a pessimist about an oncoming WW III is a far fatched worry at best.
Let's focus on whether cables do make any difference after all ?
Almost every major war throughout history has occurred when a small group of sociopathic men espousing a narrow ideology have come to power. For a period they are able to fool a lot of people convincing them they are the answer/solution to the problems the society faces. All that’s required is a charismatic charlatan with a gift of the gab, some theatrical abilities and the support of a few very wealthy allies whose deep pockets ensure that their voices are loudest and the clamour drowns out the rest. They deftly play to the existing prejudices prevalent in societies and over time bring every safeguard against over reach and abuse of power under their control.
The ruthlessly exploit concepts of nationalism and patriotism to stifle opposition and build the myth of the great savior.
All they need is a 20-40% vote share of people who are gullible/naive, short sighted or driven by selfish profit motives
Once there are several such individuals in power in many countries they often form alliances, sometimes even across opposite and conflicting ideologies- alliances of convenience. Such situations have the potential to escalate local and regional conflicts in to widespread global wars.
As the infamous quote reminds us “wars are good for business” (for a very tiny group and their greedy shareholders)
No country or individuals can remain unaffected in such scenarios. In a globalised economy every country is vulnerable (imports and exports, oil, food, energy etc). Remember speech by Bush (the lesser) “you are either with us or against us”?
The escalation is gradual, not a sudden evenT; who is the authority who will declare a “world war”? - Probably some journalist or media editor.
We don’t have much influence or say about crooks in power in other countries, but we do have a choice on who we vote for. It all depends on how far sighted or short sighted we are while making such choices. Peace, harmony, safety and goodwill in our society and for our children depends on every one in the society being able to experience this. If we can achieve this we will be viswagurus.
The ruthlessly exploit concepts of nationalism and patriotism to stifle opposition and build the myth of the great savior.
All they need is a 20-40% vote share of people who are gullible/naive, short sighted or driven by selfish profit motives
Once there are several such individuals in power in many countries they often form alliances, sometimes even across opposite and conflicting ideologies- alliances of convenience. Such situations have the potential to escalate local and regional conflicts in to widespread global wars.
As the infamous quote reminds us “wars are good for business” (for a very tiny group and their greedy shareholders)
No country or individuals can remain unaffected in such scenarios. In a globalised economy every country is vulnerable (imports and exports, oil, food, energy etc). Remember speech by Bush (the lesser) “you are either with us or against us”?
The escalation is gradual, not a sudden evenT; who is the authority who will declare a “world war”? - Probably some journalist or media editor.
We don’t have much influence or say about crooks in power in other countries, but we do have a choice on who we vote for. It all depends on how far sighted or short sighted we are while making such choices. Peace, harmony, safety and goodwill in our society and for our children depends on every one in the society being able to experience this. If we can achieve this we will be viswagurus.
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