Guys, don't turn this into another QLED vs OLED discussion. This forum had enough of this kind of heated discussion and ended up getting the thread locked. There is no 'Perfect TV'. Every technology has its limitation, Period. Take it with a pinch of salt and sleep on it.
Xiaomi to launch Mi TV Q1 75" on 23rd March - QLED, 192 Zones, 120Hz
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vikrantxtrad
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Why does the OLED looks so bad bro? What changed?
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Love4sound
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I have a dedicated HT 5.2.4 atmos set up in a pitch dark room. Don’t care about ambient light. Oled white is good enough with little adjustments.
Q60r not even fald. Basic 4k tv. I took this image just now in a pitch black room. See how deep black it is but in reality it’s not black but grey and backlit is flashing . Any one can take image and say hey this is the best. I am taking facts here unlike u
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Love4sound
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Can u also please ask these qled fan boys to stop spreading false facts. I mean qled no blooming and deep black? Seriously? And if some one points out facts all come raining in don’t deviate thread, no fanboy talks jeez. One guy watches inaccurate picture which no videophile prefers and claims it’s the best and here another one with another joke Jesus
Donivlapog
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You only casually watch TVs in your living room. In your room with not much of disturbance watching movies in 4k ott platform and blue ray is real satisfying experience. In hall even a 8000h is good enough for ambient light surroundings and my mother, father, wife watch seriels together. For that I don't require a FALD also. An edge lit can do. But watching movies in dark settings is about the visual immersive experience. Especially some space movies.
lightgamer
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No matter how custom the panel is, an IPS panel is going to be limited to around 1500:1 contrast ratio best case. Here you can see the blooming yourself and judge:I agree and get your point regarding blacks being poor on an IPS panel but I believe Apple is using a customised ADS panel from BOE with increased native contrast . I had read very positive reviews of the new iPad pro mini led performance from all mainstream reviewers so this blooming phenomenon is very surprising maybe it is the Samsung Super Amoled Tablet users creating mischief
I have put timestamps on the videos so it will cut to the correct time. IPS panel with FALD just looks weird to me honestly. If you are going to go with contrast, get a decent VA.
vikrantxtrad
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I find no issues buddy. I will say again I have a8g. The dark scenes look very similar on qled. Your hate towards QLED master race is due to q60r.
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vikrantxtrad
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I watch at night only as I speaking from experience. It's not like I don't have both technology. But if you like OLED it's fine. Buy whatever you like. You can go for edge lit too.
Love4sound
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I don’t hate qled. I also can say based on that pic q60r is pitch black with no blooming. I no way claim Oled is the best for every one. Look at my other threads how I advice on pple to choose tv. It’s a personal preference with most of the HT enthusiasts preferring Oled for the cinematic experience. My only aim here in this forum is to talk facts which will help others to make the right choice. Look at the thread and see my comments. Apart from brightness Oled wins in most aspects is facts which I have seen in every forum and reviews.
HDR vs SDR vs 1080P
Dear Fm’s I have 3 images attached. One image is taken from my Sony 1080p Tv and the remaining 2 from C9 with1 in 4K SDR and another in HDR.All three do look different but definitely interms of picture quality not a huge difference. The camera does over expose certain details and gives a...
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vikrantxtrad
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I get your point but I always believe that OLED is better only at pitch black room and then it shines due to perception of depth it creates due to more contrast. But try to understand my point. My TV doesn't bloom the way you show in earlier pics. You have to experience it before you conclude your answers. Even I believe that OLED has better picture quality but I stand with the fact that my blacks looks very deep even while watching stars of the space. It's upto you to believe.I don’t hate qled. I also can say based on that pic q60r is pitch black with no blooming. I no way claim Oled is the best for every one. Look at my other threads how I advice on pple to choose tv. It’s a personal preference with most of the HT enthusiasts preferring Oled for the cinematic experience. My only aim here in this forum is to talk facts which will help others to make the right choice. Look at the thread and see my comments. Apart from brightness Oled wins in most aspects is facts which I have seen in every forum and reviews.
HDR vs SDR vs 1080P
Dear Fm’s I have 3 images attached. One image is taken from my Sony 1080p Tv and the remaining 2 from C9 with1 in 4K SDR and another in HDR.All three do look different but definitely interms of picture quality not a huge difference. The camera does over expose certain details and gives a...
aditya2603d
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Black is just one of the more than a billion shades of color that today's television can produce. So black and pure white are the extremes of these color shades. So this black to white contrast is important but it's not the only contrast that matters. How the TV produces other colors, different shades and contrast between them is equally important. And for a great majority of content(more than 95%) is not black but have high APL where QLED shines with it brightness and color volume. OLED can't maintain color volume at high level of brightness and uses too much of it's white sub pixel to boost it's brightness which leads to bluish tint. What every TV suffers is from screen uniformity where OLED has a better record than LEDs and generally there is less of panel lottery in OLED. And for contrast anything above 10000-15000 is good enough for majority of contents except for end credits which anyway no one watches or for movies with lot of starfield scenes which is also a niche. Blooming is another topic, Samsung and other QLED may show blooming because of high specular highlight brightness, way more than OLED, if you bring the brightness down the blooming is reduced significantly. Moreover blooming is also part responsible because of how our eyes perceive extremely bright objects against dark background from short distance and in that case even Samsung brighter OLED with 1200nits looks like having blooming not because it's actually there but because of how our eyes perceives light.
Look at the below pictures, no OLED can survive this, look how dull the entire scene looks compared to an LCD with just around 700-1000 nits not even 900 nits odd that TV's like Samsung Q90A or Hisense U8 can do for such APL scenes. So, it better not to flame fanboy wars.
or for movies with lot of starfield scenes which is also a niche. Blooming is another topic, Samsung and other QLED may show blooming because of high specular highlight brightness, way more than OLED, if you bring the brightness down the blooming is reduced significantly. Moreover blooming is also part responsible because of how our eyes perceive extremely bright objects against dark background from short distance and in that case even Samsung brighter OLED with 1200nits looks like having blooming not because it's actually there but because of how our eyes perceives light.Look at the below pictures, no OLED can survive this, look how dull the entire scene looks compared to an LCD with just around 700-1000 nits not even 900 nits odd that TV's like Samsung Q90A or Hisense U8 can do for such APL scenes. So, it better not to flame fanboy wars.
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Donivlapog
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Ok coming back to the topic, does the Mi TV have a slight Earth current?
Love4sound
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The TV I showed are not MI and it was Samsung Q90.
Love4sound
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If it’s just one in a billion and not so important why every other technology is trying so hard to achieve pure blacks?why advertise the number of dimming zones and highlight it big time? There is a 3 dimensionality in the image cause of it and it matters a lot for a cinematic experience. Well anyways deviated enough. I think I need to stop commenting on tv threads.Black is just one of the more than a billion shades of color that today's television can produce. So black and pure white are the extremes of these color shades. So this black to white contrast is important but it's not the only contrast that matters. How the TV produces other colors, different shades and contrast between them is equally important. And for a great majority of content(more than 95%) is not black but have high APL where QLED shines with it brightness and color volume. OLED can't maintain color volume at high level of brightness and uses too much of it's white sub pixel to boost it's brightness which leads to bluish tint. What every TV suffers is from screen uniformity where OLED has a better record than LEDs and generally there is less of panel lottery in OLED. And for contrast anything above 10000-15000 is good enough for majority of contents except for end credits which anyway no one watches
Look at the below pictures, no OLED can survive this, look how dull the entire scene looks compared to an LCD with just around 700-1000 nits not even 900 nits odd that TV's like Samsung Q90A or Hisense U8 can do for such APL scenes. So, it better not to flame fanboy wars.
vikrantxtrad
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I think it was q60r.
Buddy trust me. You are in for rude awakening, go check 2021 falds.
800 nits monochrome vs 1800 real RGB is no comparison.
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Love4sound
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Both 1st and 2nd are Samsung q90 and not q60r. The third image is the q60r. I am team Oled. Once u go black there is no going back. No matter how good qled is the scenes below are what I look for. My room is pitch dark and no way any qled is going to outperform Oled. I am not against how bright and punchy the qled are but in a dark room for a cinematic experience Oled is better.
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vikrantxtrad
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Agree with you bro. Girls say the same thing.
Michelangalo
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If you want to see the difference between OLED vs QLED then see the below video. The guys clearly shows the difference.
vikrantxtrad
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