Xtreamer Media Player (XMP) Owners Thread

Hi all,

I have some HD movie files (720p) which is encoded in MPEG-4 AAC audio, and its file properties indicate 5.1 surround.

However, when playing on Xtreamer, when I press the 'Audio" button, it is giving selection of MONO LEFT, MONO RIGHT and STEREO. Also, on my Yamaha amplifier, it is indicating the input signal (on optical port) as PCM, and the mode is shown as DD Pro Logic. This is giving indication that the Xtreamer is down-mixing to 2-channels before outputting on the optical port. Is this right? Is there an option to select the optical output either as Bitstream (or pass-through) so that an external amplifier will decode ) or PCM? Also whether the optical must be 2-channels or 5.1 channels?

If I play DTS encoded movies, will I get the DTS digital out (5.1) directly (to be decoded using an external amplifier) , or will that also be down-mixed to 2-channel for optical audio?

Please clarify and help
Thanks
Churfsan

Yes its a limitation with Xtreamer as of now when we play an AAC encoded 5.1 track through Xtreamer its able to pass it as a 2 channel signal to the connected AVR, to help myself in this case I use my Ps3 to play these files which are decoded inside Ps3 itself and sent as 5.1 multichannel to the connected AVR through HDMI.
 
Did you get yourself a WDTV or WDTV-Live

I bought WDTV Live (aka WDTV2) NOT older WDTV.

Older WDTV is based on Sigma 8635. It runs at 300mhz which is significantly lower than Xtreamer. WDTV Live uses next generation SoC - Sigma 8655. I agree that Xtreamer is league apart from the older WDTV but same is not the case with WDTV Live.

Initial reviews suggests that Sigma 8655 is significantly faster than Realtek 1283x (Read here). Added to that WDTV2 has total 1gb onboard memory (512mb RAM + 512mb ROM) which is surely going to improve the performance. I even read on the net that WDTV2 can handle 1080p media encoded with 16 reframes. Other players including Xtreamer can handle at the most 10 reframes. Such high encoding is not common, however it suggests the capability of new Sigma processor.


WDTV's remote suck's big time (it may be small, but dose not serve the purpose.)

Small is better IMO. Its a personal choice. It also supports Universal Remotes. If one has full home theater setup, having 3-4 remotes is not uncommon. So using one universal remote makes more sense.
 
Hi,
Can you confirm wether it outputs DTS-HD-MA and DD-T-HD audio via HDMI.
thanks.

Yes it can. It supports HDMI 1.3 port capable of bitsteaming (passthrough raw audio stream) HD audio. It can not downmix HD audio streams (i.e. decode them internally and pass the output in digital or analogue format to speakers). But other audio streams can be downmixed.

As far as I know there are very few players capable of downmixing Dolby True HD and none can do DTS HD Master Audio.
 
Yes it can. It supports HDMI 1.3 port capable of bitsteaming (passthrough raw audio stream) HD audio. It can not downmix HD audio streams (i.e. decode them internally and pass the output in digital or analogue format to speakers). But other audio streams can be downmixed.

As far as I know there are very few players capable of downmixing Dolby True HD and none can do DTS HD Master Audio.

Hi,

thanks for the info ........... and just out of curiosity, have you tested this personally or just asuming based on the spec.


thanks.
 
Hi,
thanks for the info ........... and just out of curiosity, have you tested this personally or just asuming based on the spec.
thanks.

Right now on specs and reviews posted on various websites. My unit is in transit & will receive it by month end. If you are interested in my personal review, I will surely post it here upon receipt.
 
Right now on specs and reviews posted on various websites. My unit is in transit & will receive it by month end. If you are interested in my personal review, I will surely post it here upon receipt.

yo man!! will wait for your review on HD audio.


thanks
 
Well my personal advice, people should stay away from western digital live for now as it is filled with bugs and there are lot of issues coming up.

In xtreamer so many issues were not present after the launch apart from fan noise issue which people felt and was rectified. Also wdtv still does not support an internal hard drive the hardware may be an improved version but you need supporting firmware to make any hardware successful.

Please find below the list of things that are working great in wdtv live -

So, to be affirmative, here is a list of WDTV Live's features that work more than satisfactory:

1) Perfect playback of majority of formats (not all, but can you ask for all to work really?), including the most demanding h.264 1080p MKV at more than 5 reframes.

2) 23.976 fps works perfectly, at last, also any other fps, without stuttering.

3) Cool user interface, fast enough, nice preview feature.

4) From my experience, WDTVLIVE share works perfectly, fast (6.5 - 7.5 MB/s) and without dropouts, when accessed from a PC.

5) Playback from network also works fine (of course, if you can access shares at all), no performace problems.

6) YouTube works fine.

7) DTS decoding works fine.

Here is a list of issues with WDTV Live -

1) Not all PC Windows shares are visible on WDTV Live - most of the times only couple of them.
There is also a random situation - try to enter "Video -> Network Shares" and nothing happens - no response to pressing ENTER button. Power cycle doesn't make any difference, not even unplugging the unit from power.
In the same time, you can access the WDTVs' shares from the PC and copy files, without any problems and interruptions. It seems that this part of netwoking is functioning flawless. YouTube is also working.

2) After powering off the unit (shutdown, then disconnection the power), and powering on again, the subtitle default option goes to off.

3) After some time of inactivity, the USB connected disks dissapear, even the USB LED on the WDTV Live is off.
If you try to access the WDTVLIVE share from the PC, you will still see the disk, but, instead of its folders, you'll see there some of your PC shares names
(weird, ha?) and all of them empty.
Dissapeared disks often can't be detected only by plugging them off and on; you have to disconnect and reconnect the power from WDTV Live.

4) You can't disconnect USB disk safely (by pressing EJECT on the remote) from the WDTV Live if its share is opened on the PC; WDTV is just doing "busy" circle for a very long time, without any warning.

5) Lack of consistent MP4 support.

6) movie.jpg in the same folder with movie.mkv show up twice for network shares.

7) Using HDMI to DVI it defaults back to 480p on some older tvs when you try to set 1080i even though the tv is 1080i - this does not happen with the 1st gen WDTV HD Media Player.

8) Playing over a Wireless "N" network keeps losing it's connection every few minutes.
During my tests I always had 2, 3 or 4 bars of reception. I tried 2 different N adapters (both on the "tested" list", 2 different routers, and 2 different PCs (one XP and one Vista).
It always works at first and then about 5 minutes later...lost connection.

9) Some VOB files seem to be miss read by the unit. For example, my DVDs are broken up into multiple VOB files for each movie. Each VOB is about 1 gig each and the play time is roughly 23 minutes long. The unit does not correctly determine the correct playing time and reads some vob files to be anywhere from 4 minutes to 9 minutes long. I wish it would just play the VIDEO_TS.IFO file for DVD playing. When these VOB are playing, the unit would shut it self down some of the time.

10) Playing music files over HDMI, the first half-second of the song is cut off. This did NOT happen with the original WDTV on the same receiver connected with the same HDMI cable to the same HDMI port, so it is DEFINITELY a problem caused by the WDTV-LIVE.
Confirmed with both network and local files, and both uncompressed WAV and compressed FLAC.
Tried new cable (HDMI 1.3b certified). Same result - first 1/2 second of song is cut off. Didn't happen with WDTV1.

11) Pandora account login isn't staying resident on WDTVLive, i.e. I have to type in my account info each & every time.

The above have been reported by users in their posts on AVS.

Coming to the cost it is costing Rs 7200 from 20th north as other users have already posted in the forum.Add another 1.5k to that for usb wireless . It comes to Rs 8700.

So will recommend to hold on to that purchase for those who are planning to buy the wdtv live as some of the issues are really frustrating. Once they have a firmware update out to address the issue, it will be a good player ....
 
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Well new firmware has been released for xtreamer -

Xtreamer Official Forum • View topic - ver 2.0.2 released. (bug fixes) Official discussion

http://gator884.hostgator.com/~xtreamer/Xtreamer_2.0.2.zip

Xtreamer 2.0.2 release notes(from v2.0.1 patch)

Bug fixed:


1. Executing Restore Default from setup menu, NFS share file deleted if there exists NFS mount shares.

2. Subtitle cut when display resolution 576p/PAL with Pan Scan 4:3 aspect ratio selected.

3. FTP server multiconnection support.


**Caution: Please dont use Restore Default from FW V2.0 & V2.0.1, NFS shared files may be deleted if mounted with RW option**
 
^ Thanx for the post Dushie, was about to suggest the WDTV Live for a friend, guess I'll ask him to hold on or get the Xtreamer like I did :P
 
Right now on specs and reviews posted on various websites. My unit is in transit & will receive it by month end. If you are interested in my personal review, I will surely post it here upon receipt.

Did you check powersuppy compatibility with 250V?
 
hi freinds xtreamer.net now has a INDIA threat where we can post tghis is the link
Xtreamer Official Forum • View forum - Xtreamer India
and also a new firmware has been realesed 2.02 2hich can be found here

http://gator884.hostgator.com/~xtreamer/Xtreamer_2.0.2.zip

regards...


ps:anm with due respect i have seen your posts in vairious forums including ours cribbing about your purchase of XMP did anyone force you to buy it you have complained about XMP not being a good audio player i guess you should have checked its audio capability's before pulling the trigger... pl stop sounding like a cry baby...XMP with all its flaws is still a great media player for the buck... more for movies than audio or shall i put it this way that its a great Movie player which also plays audio....if you are looking at internet radio you can also consider logitech squeezebox (you can also stream music from your PC)...pl check the below link..my two cents....Thanx .

Logitech Squeezebox
 
If you have read the posts, you would have also read that I have said that it is completely my fault to buy it. It promised to have internet radio in fw 2.0 and then there were posts from beta testers that it has been taken out from the release. I hope you are aware of these.

regards

Edited to tone down.

hi freinds xtreamer.net now has a INDIA threat where we can post tghis is the link
Xtreamer Official Forum • View forum - Xtreamer India
and also a new firmware has been realesed 2.02 2hich can be found here

http://gator884.hostgator.com/~xtreamer/Xtreamer_2.0.2.zip

regards...


ps:anm with due respect i have seen your posts in vairious forums including ours cribbing about your purchase of XMP did anyone force you to buy it you have complained about XMP not being a good audio player i guess you should have checked its audio capability's before pulling the trigger... pl stop sounding like a cry baby...XMP with all its flaws is still a great media player for the buck... more for movies than audio or shall i put it this way that its a great Movie player which also plays audio....if you are looking at internet radio you can also consider logitech squeezebox (you can also stream music from your PC)...pl check the below link..my two cents....Thanx .

Logitech Squeezebox
 
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If I do not find the product to my liking, and to their own promise, I have every right to talk about it. I hope you are not looking to strangulate my freedom of expression?

hi freinds xtreamer.net now has a INDIA threat where we can post tghis is the link
Xtreamer Official Forum • View forum - Xtreamer India
and also a new firmware has been realesed 2.02 2hich can be found here

http://gator884.hostgator.com/~xtreamer/Xtreamer_2.0.2.zip

regards...


ps:anm with due respect i have seen your posts in vairious forums including ours cribbing about your purchase of XMP did anyone force you to buy it you have complained about XMP not being a good audio player i guess you should have checked its audio capability's before pulling the trigger... pl stop sounding like a cry baby...XMP with all its flaws is still a great media player for the buck... more for movies than audio or shall i put it this way that its a great Movie player which also plays audio....if you are looking at internet radio you can also consider logitech squeezebox (you can also stream music from your PC)...pl check the below link..my two cents....Thanx .

Logitech Squeezebox
 
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It promised to have internet radio in fw 2.0 and then there were posts from beta testers that it has been taken out from the release. I hope you are aware of these.

regards

Edited to tone down.

Anm,... Pl update your XMP to 2.0/or to the newest 2.02 realesed yestday I guess ur problem of Internet radio is solved as Internet radio is there from firmware 2.01 sugesst you to update and enjoy the money u have spent.
As for your freedom of expression no body can stop you from your right of expression as this is a free country and u have every right to voice your feelings even if they are not fully justified.

Regards...pl use the link in my earlier post for update to the newest firmware...
 
Hi friend I guess like all Media players this verson of Wdtv would also come with a adapter power supply so the problem of voltage would not be there
regards

Yes,but one need to get equal,better powersupply,else performance can be affected.
 
I have been ripping my DVDs with Nero. Just make an image (.nrg) of your DVD.
.NRG is not displayed in the Xtreamer media library.

So, just rename .nrg to .iso and this way it is visible in Xtreamer media library and then u can play it as a full fledged DVD. :)

This is if you don't have problem with original size of the DVD and you don't want to take out few extras.

Guys, please share how do you do it specially if you have any better and simple method to do it.

Also, in firmware 2.01, changing subtitle language is a different kind of menu, have u guys feel it comfortable?
 
Yes I know the internet radio is now available. I know where to download it from as well. Thanks anyways for posting the link. Will upgrade when I find time, and when the cover up fw releases stop and it is more stable. 2.0.1 and 2.0.2 are also released in quick succession. Hope you are aware.

Can we bring an end to this "cry baby", "not fully justified" kind of statements from your end? I do not need to justify to you - and I hope your justifications are not governed by any financial interests/ beta tester/ moderator affiliations with xtreamer company/ forum.

regards

Anm,... Pl update your XMP to 2.0/or to the newest 2.02 realesed yestday I guess ur problem of Internet radio is solved as Internet radio is there from firmware 2.01 sugesst you to update and enjoy the money u have spent.
As for your freedom of expression no body can stop you from your right of expression as this is a free country and u have every right to voice your feelings even if they are not fully justified.

Regards...pl use the link in my earlier post for update to the newest firmware...
 
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