Dali Ikon6 auditioned

[musicbee]

I didn't have time/patience of going through full thread as net was too slow. So just went through first 3 pages and the last page. Amazed to read that a speaker of that cost cannot satisfy everyone. One statement I didn't agree with. ' X speaker is good mainly for vocals', Y for bass etc. A good speaker should be good for all genres. If I spend upwards of 1 lac for a speaker and then if its good only for particular kind of music then, I am sorry but I cannot call it a good speaker. A good speaker should faithfuly reproduce whatever is thrown at it. It cannot be selective.Having said that I feel at any speaker that really goes down to 40hz is more than enough for enjoying music. Very few instruments go below that (I know only organ and kick drum although there may be few more.).

There is no perfection in life just as there exists no one thing that can do everything. We just have to live with the choices we make. All the better to make the best informed decision so we know exactly what we are getting and know the limitations of what we are going to live with.

Of course there exists perfection that's beyond the reach of most mortals. The Magico Q7 comes to my mind. I would love to own it but cannot as of now. Hopefully, one day but till then I live with what I have now.

And no I don't believe anyone has the perfect speaker that can do everything. Maybe for the kind of music they listen to but not for the kind of music I or you would listen to.

Well maybe bhagwan = shanti on this forum but even there I would not be 100% sure. If it did then he should be happy with it for the rest of his life... so lets see.

Its better one knows what one wants and goes about getting it... the illusion of a perfect speaker that does it all and at the OP's budget is a dream not worth pursuing.

 

[corElement]

Its better one knows what one wants and goes about getting it... the illusion of a perfect speaker that does it all and at the OP's budget is a dream not worth pursuing.

Bingo! I had the same budget as the op but took me 2 years of digging n reading to maximize on it by educating myself about it. It's a journey about understanding yourself and the market that exists. If one found something they liked immediately within 1 day of auditioning frequently, there would be no point to being an audiophile, it's a constantly evolving path.

 

[ranjeetrain]

It's a journey about understanding yourself and the market that exists.

Very well said.

 

[ranjeetrain]

Ranjee, should I consider B&W? He told me that monitor audio silver and gold series is good and is comparable to B&W.

B&W is a well respected brand. It has a lot of fans. Monitor Audio speakers generally offer much better value compared to B&W. If you don't mind the expense, B&W comes with higher bragging rights.

Monitor Audio will do the job. At the price you are looking at, you can get their gold series, which are very good for the price.

 

[varma_vikas]

B&W is a well respected brand. It has a lot of fans. Monitor Audio speakers generally offer much better value compared to B&W. If you don't mind the expense, B&W comes with higher bragging rights.

Monitor Audio will do the job. At the price you are looking at, you can get their gold series, which are very good for the price.

Thank you Ranjeetrain,

I will keep you all updated about my listening sessions in coming days.

I will keep on providing every information I have.

Thank you very much dear.

 

[corElement]

B&W sound signature leans towards warm
Monitor Audio sound signature leans towards flat (Which to most people can be a little bright)

If you pair B&W signature with a class AB amplifier it will be better value for money than pairing it with a Class A.

 

[varma_vikas]

B&W sound signature leans towards warm
Monitor Audio sound signature leans towards flat (Which to most people can be a little bright)

If you pair B&W signature with a class AB amplifier it will be better value for money than pairing it with a Class A.

Thank you core element for this valuable info.
I will keep this in mind.

If in case I liked monitors of B&W(i think 685), should I consider?
Asking because 800 series would be out of the world.

 

[corElement]

Yes the 6xx is a pretty well established model line. If you like the sound signature you can safely get it.

Keep in mind the higher you go, the more important it becomes to get an equally capable amplifier.

So it's probably best you dont look at 8xx unless you have the budget to get an amplifier of comparable priceband.

I got lucky with my bookshelves which are at par with 8xx priceband.

 

[varma_vikas]

B&W sound signature leans towards warm
Monitor Audio sound signature leans towards flat (Which to most people can be a little bright)

If you pair B&W signature with a class AB amplifier it will be better value for money than pairing it with a Class A.

Then I suppose I will sure like that because I like warm sound instead of bright.

 

[varma_vikas]

Yes the 6xx is a pretty well established model line. If you like the sound signature you can safely get it.

Keep in mind the higher you go, the more important it becomes to get an equally capable amplifier.

So it's probably best you dont look at 8xx unless you have the budget to get an amplifier of comparable priceband.

I got lucky with my bookshelves which are at par with 8xx priceband.

Thank you Core element,

I think now the train has started coming on track. options are narrowed down for me to select.

 

[varma_vikas]

Yes the 6xx is a pretty well established model line. If you like the sound signature you can safely get it.

Keep in mind the higher you go, the more important it becomes to get an equally capable amplifier.

So it's probably best you dont look at 8xx unless you have the budget to get an amplifier of comparable priceband.

I got lucky with my bookshelves which are at par with 8xx priceband.

Core element,

One question for u,

If I go for 683 and later on if I add subwoofer of b&W, do you think it will be a great combination (both for music and movies)?

 

[corElement]

For movies I would honestly suggest just getting an onkyo s3500 5.1 home theatre in a box for 25k and keep the b&w's separate.

A good subwoofer costs upwards of 45k. And what the s3500 brings to the table for 25k is huge value for money. You will not regret it. Go and audition them at a store which keeps onkyo.

For music the key is to have as few things in the setup as possible. When you route the speakers through a subwoofer to isolate bass to sub and meds and highs to speakers. your entire sound quality falls prey to the crossover inside the subwoofer (which can completely alter the nature of the sound)

So instead of getting a crap subwoofer for 25k in india (which most subs at that price are in India, regardless of what anyone says otherwise) just get the onkyo htib with the latest features and have an entirely separate setup for movies.

 

[jaudere]

Sorry, I can't buy that. I can understand "some influence" in "some cases", but saying "All the reviewers are paid to say the samething about the speakers" just isn't acceptable. If you have a trust problem, it's limited to you. You can't assume everyone thinks the same way as you. If all reviewers were paid, there will never be a negative review. And I see tons of negative reviews, so I will not buy that. By making that statement you are insulting a whole lot of reviewers and institutions that sweat it out day and night to evaluate products and report findings.

Hi,

i am following the thread through all pages. My opinion will come as and when I feel to post.

About your post above,
I many journals, at end of each article there is some disclosures under "conflict of interest". If there is any conflict of interest (the authro being paid by the company in anyway whatsoever), then value of that article drastically reduces.

On top of that, the value further reduces of there is no mention of "conflcit of interest" . If there is nil , one has to say "conflict of interest-Nil". If nothing is mentioned, it is taken as if tehre is some conflcit and the authro is trying hide it.

I have not read many audio articles, but I have never seen such a thing at least in the articles that I read and the pinch of salt really has to be big in such situations.

 

[varma_vikas]

For movies I would honestly suggest just getting an onkyo s3500 5.1 home theatre in a box for 25k and keep the b&w's separate.

A good subwoofer costs upwards of 45k. And what the s3500 brings to the table for 25k is huge value for money. You will not regret it. Go and audition them at a store which keeps onkyo.

For music the key is to have as few things in the setup as possible. When you route the speakers through a subwoofer to isolate bass to sub and meds and highs to speakers. your entire sound quality falls prey to the crossover inside the subwoofer (which can completely alter the nature of the sound)

So instead of getting a crap subwoofer for 25k in india (which most subs at that price are in India, regardless of what anyone says otherwise) just get the onkyo htib with the latest features and have an entirely separate setup for movies.

Ok, This is also great option, however I have heard that in low cost and high on features Onkyo compromises on quality. Their units gets warm very easily. Do not know much about that. In case of AVR I think denon come first.

And I was talking about sub of B&W itself, as I think that if two components( or all the components) are of the same company , they get better match.

Thank you

 

[corElement]

Ok, This is also great option, however I have heard that in low cost and high on features Onkyo compromises on quality. Their units gets warm very easily.

All amplifiers get warm, the best ones heat up

Do not know much about that. In case of AVR I think denon come first.

A lot of people on this forum including I think otherwise, I put it last. Denon's 2012 models have a design defect where hdmi ports stop working. Google/search it and you'll know what I'm talking about.

And I was talking about sub of B&W itself, as I think that if two components( or all the components) are of the same company , they get better match.

Thank you

No such rule, individual preferred over-rules everything including brand match.

 

[ranjeetrain]

if two components( or all the components) are of the same company , they get better match.

This is true for speakers specifically. Speakers from same product range (not same company) are voice matched. They usually share the drivers made out of same technology so they provide 100% timbre matching. Speakers from other brands/product range MAY match (in terms of frequency integration), but they will still not be a good timbral match.

 

[kissenchand]

Still any one using Dali Ikon 6 with satisfaction? I may have a chance to grab a pair. Just gathering info before jump. Please help me by expressing your opinions.

 

[jags]

Still any one using Dali Ikon 6 with satisfaction? I may have a chance to grab a pair. Just gathering info before jump. Please help me by expressing your opinions.

Dali Ikons are fantastic speakers. Easy to drive, non-fussy about placement, good bass, ribbon tweeter brings out a lot of details. They are a definite step up from Dali Zensors. Go ahead and get them if you like the sound sig.