LED or LCD or PLASMA

[aakashr]

OKAY GUYS:
The shop from which I buy my tv's and stuff, it says it can get me the old faithful (as per this forum) pana P42V20D for 64K. I could negotiate around say 2-3 grand maybe. So how is the price? Is it good?
Any other TV recommended? Should I get this or get the Sony 46" EX520 from Bangkok which would cost a bit more than this and travelling hassles+No warranty?

Hi, I have been following this thread and I understand your apprehension and dilemma looking for a good tv. Everyone has given their opinion and I guess that has got you more confused. I think I even saw the pan v20 being compared to a pan U series or even a sony LCD. If you only knew how absurd all this really is.

Let me get to the basics, please take time to read this coz it will make you an intelligent buyer and help you make the right choice. I am not going to suggest screen size as that depends on your budget, but the rules is always go for the biggest your budget allows, even if that means stretching a bit.

Plasma vs LED/LCD............the debate continues, well it only continues for people who are not aware of the facts and technology available today. If you are looking for accurate black levels, high contrast ratios, accurate flesh tones, an immersive cinema experience you cant get anything better than a plasma. No matter what anyone tells you or keeps commenting, this is it!!! Forgot to mention your eyes will also thank you for long viewing hours, plasma is easy on the eyes so less eye fatigue.

NExt, lets talk about Panasonic............to give you a brief if there was any tv which is considered reference level, which actually set reference standards for other tvs to follow.....was the Pioneer Kuro..........no tv even till now can beat the kuro!!! However, with the neo pdp panels developed by panasonic, this is the only technology available that comes closest to the kuro. So, if you look at the series........VT30, GT30, ST30 (2011) and VT20, V20, G20, S20 (2010) these models have the new panels. The U and X series do not come with these new panels, so please do not go for them. V series being top of the line, so even if you get a V20 or VT20, that is more superior than any LED/LCD tv in the market. Therefore please do not even compare other tv's and models to the V series. They have won many awards and are very highly rated. The new VT30 is now rated the best tv ever. So, basically you cant go wrong with any of the above series.

Also, I hate to disappoint LED/LCD lovers............plasma is here to stay!!! Plasma is the king......no doubt LED/LCD technology is getting better by the day and is getting there, but they still need to match the kuro if not beat it!!!

I hope I have cleared any doubts or questions you might have had......please feel free to address any more queries or doubts. All the best!!!

 

[adder]

OKAY GUYS:
The shop from which I buy my tv's and stuff, it says it can get me the old faithful (as per this forum) pana P42V20D for 64K. I could negotiate around say 2-3 grand maybe. So how is the price? Is it good?
Any other TV recommended? Should I get this or get the Sony 46" EX520 from Bangkok which would cost a bit more than this and travelling hassles+No warranty?

If you really want the bigger screen then yes you can go with EX520 ,you can also get other Sony/samsung lcd for a very low price in bangkok.Sony lcd are assembled/made in thailand.

 

[adder]

If you are looking for accurate black levels, high contrast ratios, accurate flesh tones, an immersive cinema experience you cant get anything better than a plasma. No matter what anyone tells you or keeps commenting, this is it!!! Forgot to mention your eyes will also thank you for long viewing hours, plasma is easy on the eyes so less eye fatigue.

I am sorry i didn't get what you mean by accurate blacks etc.Didn't know that the lcd is rough on the eyes.
So all the people who buy a lcd don't get immersive cinema experience.

 

[Pernicious]

Hi, I have been following this thread and I understand your apprehension and dilemma looking for a good tv. Everyone has given their opinion and I guess that has got you more confused. I think I even saw the pan v20 being compared to a pan U series or even a sony LCD. If you only knew how absurd all this really is.

Let me get to the basics, please take time to read this coz it will make you an intelligent buyer and help you make the right choice. I am not going to suggest screen size as that depends on your budget, but the rules is always go for the biggest your budget allows, even if that means stretching a bit.

Plasma vs LED/LCD............the debate continues, well it only continues for people who are not aware of the facts and technology available today. If you are looking for accurate black levels, high contrast ratios, accurate flesh tones, an immersive cinema experience you cant get anything better than a plasma. No matter what anyone tells you or keeps commenting, this is it!!! Forgot to mention your eyes will also thank you for long viewing hours, plasma is easy on the eyes so less eye fatigue.

NExt, lets talk about Panasonic............to give you a brief if there was any tv which is considered reference level, which actually set reference standards for other tvs to follow.....was the Pioneer Kuro..........no tv even till now can beat the kuro!!! However, with the neo pdp panels developed by panasonic, this is the only technology available that comes closest to the kuro. So, if you look at the series........VT30, GT30, ST30 (2011) and VT20, V20, G20, S20 (2010) these models have the new panels. The U and X series do not come with these new panels, so please do not go for them. V series being top of the line, so even if you get a V20 or VT20, that is more superior than any LED/LCD tv in the market. Therefore please do not even compare other tv's and models to the V series. They have won many awards and are very highly rated. The new VT30 is now rated the best tv ever. So, basically you cant go wrong with any of the above series.

Also, I hate to disappoint LED/LCD lovers............plasma is here to stay!!! Plasma is the king......no doubt LED/LCD technology is getting better by the day and is getting there, but they still need to match the kuro if not beat it!!!

I hope I have cleared any doubts or questions you might have had......please feel free to address any more queries or doubts. All the best!!!

Thank you, really I mean it. Just the kind of reply I was looking at!
You made your point and justified it. So you say I can go for any of these series:
VT30, GT30, ST30
VT20, V20, G20, S20
Among the above which would be recommended to go for? the best? For 3D+2D and 2D ONLY(this is my main preference, no 3d, but just asking btw).
Lastly, I would like to know that, since I have a bright room, would the Pana plasma fine in the environment?

Thanks again.

@adder, mate you don't recommend the Pana?

Also, what should be the ideal price of the TV? I mean the V20

 

[adder]

Thank you, really I mean it. Just the kind of reply I was looking at!
You made your point and justified it. So you say I can go for any of these series:
VT30, GT30, ST30
VT20, V20, G20, S20
Among the above which would be recommended to go for? the best? For 3D+2D and 2D ONLY(this is my main preference, no 3d, but just asking btw).
Lastly, I would like to know that, since I have a bright room, would the Pana plasma fine in the environment?

Thanks again.

@adder, mate you don't recommend the Pana?

Also, what should be the ideal price of the TV? I mean the V20

Since you have a bright room i would stick with lcd.Not only do lcd handle glare better ,they don't wash out like plasma,whats the point of those great blacks when all you can see is grey or greenish-grey screen.
The lcd also has the extra brightness headroom to defeat the glare.

 

[god2007]

Lastly, I would like to know that, since I have a bright room, .........

Just curious, why you cannot reduce the light in your room / home ?

I assume it is night. If it is large windows that too facing the sun or an open area, yes, there is no alternative.

 

[aakashr]

Thank you, really I mean it. Just the kind of reply I was looking at!
You made your point and justified it. So you say I can go for any of these series:
VT30, GT30, ST30
VT20, V20, G20, S20
Among the above which would be recommended to go for? the best? For 3D+2D and 2D ONLY(this is my main preference, no 3d, but just asking btw).
Lastly, I would like to know that, since I have a bright room, would the Pana plasma fine in the environment?

Thanks again.

@adder, mate you don't recommend the Pana?

Also, what should be the ideal price of the TV? I mean the V20

Hi, Im glad to be of help!!! I dont even want to discuss plasma vs LCD coz its not even a close match let alone a fair match. but to answer your query:

2010
Best 2D : V20
Best 3D + 2D : VT20

2011
Best 3D + 2D : VT30, GT30, ST30

I am not sure of current prices but you can check with the pan shops and also look at online prices or perhaps go for a group buy. I understand there is a group buy for V20 which is open. I am also not sure of stock availability so you might have to reconfirm stock with the dealer for the above models.

Ref your ambient room lighting, I suggest to use drapes/curtains with daytime viewing and also turn the lights down while tv viewing. Why would you want to deprive yourself the experience the of breathtaking pic quality just becoz of room lighting. Plasma comes alive in a low ambient lighting condition which is anyways how movies should be watched, just as the director intended with natural colours.

Also remember irrespective of tv type, all tv's need to be calibrated for optimum viewing. Out of the box default settings may or may not work with some tv's. In the pan the THX / True cinema setting is quite accurate and I suggest to go with that in a room with low ambient lighting. However, there is no substitute for proper calibration to truly experience movies the way it is meant to be watched.

 

[gsurya]

@aakashr @pernicious - Only problem is Pana VT30 & GT30 are not yet available on the India market, only the ST30 is.

Does Pana plan to clear out old stock of V20s before bringing in the new 2011 models in India? Maybe post-Diwali. Again we become a dumping ground :| NOT happy.

 

[amol12]

@aakashr @pernicious - Only problem is Pana VT30 & GT30 are not yet available on the India market, only the ST30 is.

Does Pana plan to clear out old stock of V20s before bringing in the new 2011 models in India? Maybe post-Diwali. Again we become a dumping ground :| NOT happy.

65VT30 is available. Other sizes are not launched yet.

 

[aakashr]

@aakashr @pernicious - Only problem is Pana VT30 & GT30 are not yet available on the India market, only the ST30 is.

Does Pana plan to clear out old stock of V20s before bringing in the new 2011 models in India? Maybe post-Diwali. Again we become a dumping ground :| NOT happy.

hi, ST30 is also a brilliant performer.......a very good tv. if budget permits its a good tv to go for. Also, if stocks for VT20/V20 are available, grab it!!! no doubt they are 2010 models, they still remain very very good tv's and one of the best 2D/3D tv's in the market. I myself have a V20 and love it.

 

[naimesh]

Just curious, why you cannot reduce the light in your room / home ?

I assume it is night. If it is large windows that too facing the sun or an open area, yes, there is no alternative.

I purchased 50V20 recently..
I have a bright room too.. with sunlight directly coming on tv in morning..
But I can assure you that there is excellent quality in daytime except when sunlight directly falls on TV in normal mode with brightness and contrast and sharpness reduced to less than 50
If you forgive this little deficit(by controlling sunlight), this is the best TV for current price..Its quite natural to eyes..and after 3-4 hours , it remains a pleasant viewing...
Try LCD or LED for 30 min in showroom and your eyes will be fatigued..
decision is yours..

 

[Manish Nahar]

go for panasonic viera th-p42x30d plasma , best picture and value for money

can u please let me know what is the price in india

 

[Manish Nahar]

I want to buy a tv but i am confused little bit whether to go with plasma or led my budget is not more than 40 k to 45k please suggest me the best tv with features and price.

Manish jain

 

[gsurya]

hi, ST30 is also a brilliant performer.......a very good tv. if budget permits its a good tv to go for. Also, if stocks for VT20/V20 are available, grab it!!! no doubt they are 2010 models, they still remain very very good tv's and one of the best 2D/3D tv's in the market. I myself have a V20 and love it.

Am planning to buy ST30, V20 does not have a neo-PDP panel but electronics are indeed better. Looking to see if a friend can bring back a 40VT30 not in a hurry, apartment redo will take 2-3 months.

 

[Pernicious]

okay, Well I do have curtains in my room, and when they are drawn, the lighting is pretty usual that's not an issue. It's just that basically most of the times the curtains are not drawn, thought I think I would let go of this factor, because most of the family tv viewing is at night
Then plasma it is I guess. Now, the V20 is a 2010 model, price around 64,000. What would you guys recommended at this price point? V20 or GT30 since I think the price of both are similar? What does the V20 have over GT30 or say, I am willing to shell a few bucks more then what about the ST30?
Does the V20 play mkv/subs if not, does the GT30 and ST30 do? what about NTFS? These are my last moment queries.
Today night leaving for BKK, IF i repeat IF i get some irresistible deal on a Bravia LED, i think I'll get that then. Otherwise, Pana

 

[amol12]

GT30 is not yet launched I guess you mean GT20 which is 2010 model and it is 3D available only in 42" I believe. ST30 is 2011 lowest rande 3D model. (VT30>GT30>ST30)

 

[avmaxfan]

Am planning to buy ST30, V20 does not have a neo-PDP panel but electronics are indeed better. Looking to see if a friend can bring back a 40VT30 not in a hurry, apartment redo will take 2-3 months.

As far as I am aware there is no 40 VT30.

 

[naimesh]

okay, Well I do have curtains in my room, and when they are drawn, the lighting is pretty usual that's not an issue. It's just that basically most of the times the curtains are not drawn, thought I think I would let go of this factor, because most of the family tv viewing is at night
Then plasma it is I guess. Now, the V20 is a 2010 model, price around 64,000. What would you guys recommended at this price point? V20 or GT30 since I think the price of both are similar? What does the V20 have over GT30 or say, I am willing to shell a few bucks more then what about the ST30?
Does the V20 play mkv/subs if not, does the GT30 and ST30 do? what about NTFS? These are my last moment queries.
Today night leaving for BKK, IF i repeat IF i get some irresistible deal on a Bravia LED, i think I'll get that then. Otherwise, Pana

yes, ST30 will play mkv, mp4..V20 can't
even more V20 will not recognise hard drive in NTFS(only FAT or ExFAT)..
but thats it..50V20 is available in price of 42ST30..Isn't that great advantage?8 inch more with same 2D quality...!!!!!!

 

[Pernicious]

well, how is GT20 in comparison to V20? I guess V20 anyday right?

 

[arnprasad]

Hi, Im glad to be of help!!! I dont even want to discuss plasma vs LCD coz its not even a close match let alone a fair match. but to answer your query:

2010
Best 2D : V20
Best 3D + 2D : VT20

2011
Best 3D + 2D : VT30, GT30, ST30

I am not sure of current prices but you can check with the pan shops and also look at online prices or perhaps go for a group buy. I understand there is a group buy for V20 which is open. I am also not sure of stock availability so you might have to reconfirm stock with the dealer for the above models.

Ref your ambient room lighting, I suggest to use drapes/curtains with daytime viewing and also turn the lights down while tv viewing. Why would you want to deprive yourself the experience the of breathtaking pic quality just becoz of room lighting. Plasma comes alive in a low ambient lighting condition which is anyways how movies should be watched, just as the director intended with natural colours.

Also remember irrespective of tv type, all tv's need to be calibrated for optimum viewing. Out of the box default settings may or may not work with some tv's. In the pan the THX / True cinema setting is quite accurate and I suggest to go with that in a room with low ambient lighting. However, there is no substitute for proper calibration to truly experience movies the way it is meant to be watched.

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