Panasonic ST30 Owners Thread
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Re: How's 3d performance
I have got third gen 3d glasses. 3d performance is ok. Note that my 3d sources have been only 3d SBS or hsbs rips. Best to watch 3d at night with no lights. We can perceive depth effects but pop out effects, not so much. The 2012 3d glasses will not work with this TV.
This panel is inherently a duller due to the filters compared to the x and g series. 2d performance is excellent. But if you have a very bright room where light cannot be controlled then LCDs might be a better option. Check out the excellent comparison by just4kix in the st50 owner's thread.
I have got third gen 3d glasses. 3d performance is ok. Note that my 3d sources have been only 3d SBS or hsbs rips. Best to watch 3d at night with no lights. We can perceive depth effects but pop out effects, not so much. The 2012 3d glasses will not work with this TV.
This panel is inherently a duller due to the filters compared to the x and g series. 2d performance is excellent. But if you have a very bright room where light cannot be controlled then LCDs might be a better option. Check out the excellent comparison by just4kix in the st50 owner's thread.
kingfisher
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Can I run my 42ST30 using inverter? I have sukam 800 VA inverter with 150AH Exide Inverter plus (Not tabular ) battery. Will it overload ?
Sukam claims that their inverter produces sine wave purer than from power grid. I could not find a reliable review about this. Though I am inclined to APC (Since it is international brand and non -Indian company
, I bought it because of good reviews for Su Kam).
Sukam claims that their inverter produces sine wave purer than from power grid. I could not find a reliable review about this. Though I am inclined to APC (Since it is international brand and non -Indian company
, I bought it because of good reviews for Su Kam).Can I run my 42ST30 using inverter? I have sukam 800 VA inverter with 150AH Exide Inverter plus (Not tabular ) battery. Will it overload ?
Sukam claims that their inverter produces sine wave purer than from power grid. I could not find a reliable review about this. Though I am inclined to APC (Since it is international brand and non -Indian company
800Va inverter should be fine. I have sometimes accidentally switched on my 50VT and it works just fine. However I do avoid this as far as possible so that I get max backup for fan/lights.
ST30 is crap..Bad choice...
Post is to let people know, who are gunning for ST30.. DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT. Its crap in comparison to XT50.
I have XT50 and while I like everything, was not a fan of BD image quality. So decided to buy ST30.
Also, my bro's kids wanted a TV for Gaming, so thought why not try ST30 as everyone had recommened that. Reasons for thumbs down:
Firstly its damn dull, in comparison to XT50. Dull as if you are driving a car on a dark road with no headlights or max dim lights :-(
Then comes, colors are pale in comparison to XT50...Accuracy is fine but where is life???
Having tough time convincing kids to stick to ST30....
I somehow tried ST30 given the +ve feedback by all users.....:-(
Post is to let people know, who are gunning for ST30.. DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT. Its crap in comparison to XT50.
I have XT50 and while I like everything, was not a fan of BD image quality. So decided to buy ST30.
Also, my bro's kids wanted a TV for Gaming, so thought why not try ST30 as everyone had recommened that. Reasons for thumbs down:
Firstly its damn dull, in comparison to XT50. Dull as if you are driving a car on a dark road with no headlights or max dim lights :-(
Then comes, colors are pale in comparison to XT50...Accuracy is fine but where is life???
Having tough time convincing kids to stick to ST30....
I somehow tried ST30 given the +ve feedback by all users.....:-(
just4kix
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Re: ST30 is crap..Bad choice...
Hmm. I respect your observations but I think that making picture brighter is basically tinkering with the inherent settings of the TV set. The infinite black pro filter kind of dims the white light but improves the black levels and reduces glare (as said bu Nishabfss).
If you navigate into Adjustment Menu, the one that is accessed for going into SRV-Tool, one can change the inherent settings for all levels.
Hmm. I respect your observations but I think that making picture brighter is basically tinkering with the inherent settings of the TV set. The infinite black pro filter kind of dims the white light but improves the black levels and reduces glare (as said bu Nishabfss).
If you navigate into Adjustment Menu, the one that is accessed for going into SRV-Tool, one can change the inherent settings for all levels.
I had used a 500GB goflex drive without any problems. i too have had issues with the audio in some MKV files (it has more to do with sound encoding in the MKV file.). i bought an media player later on
is your tv 42". if it is 50" then the power rating is 425W. i was told not to run the TV on inverter (guess it has more to do with the wave form as it is not pure sine wave in the output). the (rough) factor to convert VA to W is 0.6 (multiply VA by 0.6 will give you Max W). by this calculation, your UPS will run only TV and probably another less than 70W consuming equipment
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just4kix
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Brightness and vividness are just one of the parameters. But somehow I cannot subscribe to the fact that an HD-Ready (1024x768) TV is better than a mid-range and highly appreaciated FHD (1980x1080) TV. Black levels and neoPDP, etc. got to mean something. We may be fooled but not the experts.
But if XT50 appeals better, by all means go with it. Afterall not everyone may like Katrina Kaif. :lol:
But if XT50 appeals better, by all means go with it. Afterall not everyone may like Katrina Kaif. :lol:
just4kix
Well-Known Member
I had a good look at ST30 in 2011. It was a great TV then but now usurped by ST50. This year, I did not look at it.
kingfisher
Active Member
I am using Sukam UPS/inverter. They say it produces pure sine wave.
Can I run my HDTV using this?
What will happen If I run my 42ST30 with a power source of quasi sine wave? I heard that it will generate noise in picture and audio. Apart from that , whether it will damage any internal circuitry?
Kiwi_Dude
New Member
Evening everyone.
This is my first post, and I would be grateful if anyone can give me any advice or indeed put my mind at ease. I have owned a 50ST30 for just over a year now, and very recently, after Sky has been paused for a while, I have noticed that there is a very light ghosting of the "on-screen" pause icon, almost like it's burnt in. Although this fades after a few minutes, I am left wondering if this is anything I should be too concerned about, or is my panel starting to fail. The TV seems otherwise fine.
Your thoughts would be appreciated.
This is my first post, and I would be grateful if anyone can give me any advice or indeed put my mind at ease. I have owned a 50ST30 for just over a year now, and very recently, after Sky has been paused for a while, I have noticed that there is a very light ghosting of the "on-screen" pause icon, almost like it's burnt in. Although this fades after a few minutes, I am left wondering if this is anything I should be too concerned about, or is my panel starting to fail. The TV seems otherwise fine.
Your thoughts would be appreciated.
just4kix
Well-Known Member
Looks like a case of IR which is a temporary effect. How long do you pause the tv feed? You should reduce the contrast a bit.
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Kiwi_Dude
New Member
Thanks for your reply. Quite often my wife will pause the tv feed for any length of time, recently she paused it for about 15 minutes and this was enough to cause the image retention. I have asked her to either record what she is watching and switch channels, or leave the feed paused and put the tv in to standby until she's ready to start watching again, but these requests seem to fall on deaf ears, as women seem to know best! It's not uncommon for her to pause the feed for over an hour!
In respect to the contrast settings, is there a set up procedure that I should follow, such as a colour/contrast guide like tv installers use? This is something I have never done, instead just eye balling the picture when I originally set up the tv to what "I thought" looked right!
Many thanks for your help.
Please suggest which deal is better:
A) I am getting ST30 with HT XH170 at 55,000 with 2, 3D Glasses
B) XT50 at 43K with 2 glasses, NO HT
C) ST30 without HT at 51 K with 2, 3 D Glasses
Deal A vs Deal b: ST30 is over 12K by XT50, offcourse HT is free
Deal A vs Deal C : ST30 > XT by Rs 8000. NO HT
IS ST30 Worth 8000 over XT50???
A) I am getting ST30 with HT XH170 at 55,000 with 2, 3D Glasses
B) XT50 at 43K with 2 glasses, NO HT
C) ST30 without HT at 51 K with 2, 3 D Glasses
Deal A vs Deal b: ST30 is over 12K by XT50, offcourse HT is free
Deal A vs Deal C : ST30 > XT by Rs 8000. NO HT
IS ST30 Worth 8000 over XT50???
just4kix
Well-Known Member
If the TV picture is frozen for 15 minutes or above on a plasma TV, then IR is bound to occur. You must educate your wife ... Pause live feed, switch off TV, else suffer from permanent damage, i.e., burn-in. Once the images are etched permanently, they will simply not go away. PDP panel is not covered for burn-in damage because this is something the user must be aware of and control.
I am using the contrast setting at 35% and brightness at 50%.
even i am planning to get a pure sine wave inverter to connect my future AVR and TV. To be honest i am not aware of the effects of quasi sine wave. i do not want to risk my investment. what i know is in regular inverter, even ceiling fans "hum"s so i wonder what effect it will have on TV and other AV equipment. my 2 paise
RAJNEESHPLP
New Member
Hi Naveen and others,
I was looking for this st 30 tv for quite some time, courtesy highly optimistic review from all.
Let me tell you the rates I got:
I started with jumbo anbience gurgaon giving me 42st at 55k demo piece with one glass. Lots of haggling and hight attitude of sales guy- I dropped the idea
Then I find the same tv at a small shop at 51l with TWO glasses. Could not visit as shop was at out of my way place
Third I find this tv after some time with chroma at price of 39k ( can u believe it. Sales guy later tells me it is tr last demo piece in chroma and nowhere in Delhi it can be found). He swore the scratchlesss piece and can send it to my home fron godown directly. I believed paid 39k ( was happy at my bargaining skills and returns home). Day 2 TV Arrives. : it has Two big scratches on screen. Furiously calls the sales guy at chroma who appeared at phone after long wait and shamelessly offers me 5% further discount. No answer to my question on why didn't he inform me the scratches. Their manager was also casually apologetic. This is chroma. The Tata shop which a common man beleives to be transparent. Thankfully they refunded the money after two visits.
1 week later : jumbo sales guy (ambience VK) promises me 42st at 57k from a dealer outside jumbo bit wudnt telle the name and promise home delivery. At 57k. One glass. I wudnt agree on home delivery again without seeing. Bit he didn't tell me the place. Must be some commission issue.
FEW DAYS LATER. : same tv found at a prominent shop (name I'm forgetting ) at yusu sarai red light at 62 k two glasses. Wouldn't budge a rupee
Interestingly panny shop just a few furlongs distance quotes me 68 and then lowers it straight to 60k hearing the rate in the neighbourhood shop
Oh my my. I was so confused. What is he real rate
I didn't buy as I was put off by the sheet loot of these unscrupulous sales guy.
And finally as I called another panny showroom same tv at 50k two glasses.
Can u believe it. !!!!!
That means a simpleton who can't control the shopping urges wud get the same tv at 68k in one panny shop can be had at 50k in another at the same time
All this variation in prices are in a short interval of 2 weeks or more.
No wonder panny doesn't have any strategy on place if their pricing is so week.
PS : I wonder are the insane to pitch this TV at 82k Mrp when Sony 42 inch led is at 54k.
God knows how are sales strategies are made.
Last comment. May be I will buy tomorrow at 50k and I woh no one quotes me lesser than this.
Regards
I was looking for this st 30 tv for quite some time, courtesy highly optimistic review from all.
Let me tell you the rates I got:
I started with jumbo anbience gurgaon giving me 42st at 55k demo piece with one glass. Lots of haggling and hight attitude of sales guy- I dropped the idea
Then I find the same tv at a small shop at 51l with TWO glasses. Could not visit as shop was at out of my way place
Third I find this tv after some time with chroma at price of 39k ( can u believe it. Sales guy later tells me it is tr last demo piece in chroma and nowhere in Delhi it can be found). He swore the scratchlesss piece and can send it to my home fron godown directly. I believed paid 39k ( was happy at my bargaining skills and returns home). Day 2 TV Arrives. : it has Two big scratches on screen
. Furiously calls the sales guy at chroma who appeared at phone after long wait and shamelessly offers me 5% further discount. No answer to my question on why didn't he inform me the scratches. Their manager was also casually apologetic. This is chroma. The Tata shop which a common man beleives to be transparent. Thankfully they refunded the money after two visits. 1 week later : jumbo sales guy (ambience VK) promises me 42st at 57k from a dealer outside jumbo bit wudnt telle the name and promise home delivery. At 57k. One glass. I wudnt agree on home delivery again without seeing. Bit he didn't tell me the place. Must be some commission issue.
FEW DAYS LATER. : same tv found at a prominent shop (name I'm forgetting ) at yusu sarai red light at 62 k two glasses. Wouldn't budge a rupee
Interestingly panny shop just a few furlongs distance quotes me 68 and then lowers it straight to 60k hearing the rate in the neighbourhood shop
Oh my my. I was so confused. What is he real rate
I didn't buy as I was put off by the sheet loot of these unscrupulous sales guy.
And finally as I called another panny showroom same tv at 50k two glasses.
Can u believe it. !!!!!
That means a simpleton who can't control the shopping urges wud get the same tv at 68k in one panny shop can be had at 50k in another at the same time
All this variation in prices are in a short interval of 2 weeks or more.
No wonder panny doesn't have any strategy on place if their pricing is so week.
PS : I wonder are the insane to pitch this TV at 82k Mrp when Sony 42 inch led is at 54k.
God knows how are sales strategies are made.
Last comment. May be I will buy tomorrow at 50k and I woh no one quotes me lesser than this.
Regards
just4kix
Well-Known Member
Panasonic is one of the crappiest when it comes to pricing. They don't even put MRP on their website. Dealers are further crooks.
RAJNEESHPLP
New Member
No sir. The one at 50k is brand new. Hopefully. As what committed by sales guy. If one can believe them
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