Samsung plasma "shocker of a price"!!!!

[BLASTO]

i feel 3D will not be a premium feature from 2011

I feel 3D will not even be a feature in 2012!

TV manufacturers are coming up with half baked new stuff every year to sell their TVs.. Instead of baking the previous years half baked stuff properly the next year, they continue to churn out more half baked stuff every year!!

People should have sued samsung for advertising the LED TVs with that name with a huge price tag, instead, every other manufacturer is using the wrong terminology to confuse people..

It is well known that non-local dimming LED TVs add little to no improvement to the normal LCD, even then, instead of bringing in local dimming LED at an affordable cost, the companies are selling non-local dimming LED LCDs as if there is no tomorrow..

Now the emperors new cloths come in the form of 3D. With all the dearth of 3D content and insanely amateur implementation of 2D -> 3D in all the current TVs, the manufacturers have the guts to even call them 3D capable..

It takes only 5 minutes of demoing these things to come to the conclusion that you dont need 3D nor are the TVs capable 3D machines.. HD TV demo itself is a fraud.. Absolutely slow moving picturs with no black content at all generated out of blu ray players which are multiple times costlier than the TV itself is the norm.. On top of that if they are not able to display considerably good 3D content, "Something is terribly Wrong"! Add to that the alien looking 3D glasses. I found not a single satisfied customer after the end of the demos and when they confront the demo guy, "This is how 3D looks sir" is the standard reply.

 

[Mark]

Updates from my side:
Got the demo and setup done yesterday afternoon. It was a quick 15 mins job. Brought a V-Gaurd Crystal Plus stabilizer for the set. I have started running the break-in slides from the USB.

Performance:
I am a newbee to this HD world so cant comment much about performance, but still will give a shot at it
SD - Satisfactory (Using Sun Direct STB)
HD Content - Superb Clarity and Blacks (Played an Eminem video)
Sound - Pretty Good
Buzzing - No

Currently I am using the set in a conservative mode, Brightness, contrast are below 50 and sharpness as 0.

Buying Experience:
It was a delight interacting with Vaibhav. He's been very professional and had
updated me the status on a timely manner. Very pleased with his approach which made me get rid of my apprehensions.

And once again i thank MadBullRam for making this possible for us.

 

[vardu]

@Mark - Nice to know that there wasn't any obvious buzz ( this was my only cause for wariness).

While I welcome Varuna and his rains, the incidental delays are really taxing my patience

 

[josedandrew]

In fact 3D feature should not make a tv more than 10% expensive.
Simlpy because, all they do is run 2 video channels intermittently at double frame rate and synchronize 3d glass shutters with frame refresh rate.
If they can create a new frame from nowhere to be placed between two frames (motionfolw), what's so difficult with 3D..
The premium pricing is to simply cash in the initial excitement..
as blasto said.. 3D wont even be a feature in an year or two.

 

[Mark]

Was searching the samsung india website for any upgrade to the firmware of the TV. There was an update available, just downloaded it onto the USB drive and got the new firmware installed on the TV just now. PFB the link to the exe which you can use.

http://org.downloadcenter.samsung.c...h=FM/201010/20101005113543078/T-VAL6XDAAC.exe

Manual for installation:

http://org.downloadcenter.samsung.c...S50C6500TR&VPath=UM/201005/20100503092112468/[PC6500]BN68-02901A-01Eng-0430.pdf

 

[rajudhs]

this is the trend i see
3D bluray players are now in US for 200$ (ex: sony S-570)

this is the same price as a normal bluray 6 months back

i see the same trend in TV in 2011, reasons

1: 3D in my view doesn't cost much in production, its just pushed with hype to make easy bucks.

2: 3D TV is not that successfull, u can see this from desperate combo deals in
US and india (sony had 42inch LED+3D Bluray+ home theatre+2 glasses for 1.1L

3: no 3D content, it will take time, years from now, to have huge content, even avatar 3D has not yet release in bluray, ironically, this is the movie that
re-started the 3D craze once again.

4: TV companies cannot wait for 2 more years, and expect people to pay premium for 3D for next 2 years, the sales any way are minuscule.

5: i am not very excited on 3D without glasses,its great technology
but the image will be at a distance and effects wont be good compared to glasses, glasses brings in a bit of zoom, making images appear near to your eye. which i feel wont be the case in case of 3D without glasses.

 

[jerry53]

this is the trend i see
3D bluray players are now in US for 200$ (ex: sony S-570)

this is the same price as a normal bluray 6 months back

i see the same trend in TV in 2011, reasons

1: 3D in my view doesn't cost much in production, its just pushed with hype to make easy bucks.

2: 3D TV is not that successfull, u can see this from desperate combo deals in
US and india (sony had 42inch LED+3D Bluray+ home theatre+2 glasses for 1.1L

3: no 3D content, it will take time, years from now, to have huge content, even avatar 3D has not yet release in bluray, ironically, this is the movie that
re-started the 3D craze once again.

4: TV companies cannot wait for 2 more years, and expect people to pay premium for 3D for next 2 years, the sales any way are minuscule.

5: i am not very excited on 3D without glasses,its great technology
but the image will be at a distance and effects wont be good compared to glasses, glasses brings in a bit of zoom, making images appear near to your eye. which i feel wont be the case in case of 3D without glasses.

avatar 3d has been released in blu ray and it costs about a 400$ well you can buy 2 blu ray players with that :lol:

 

[vivekecm]

The TV was set up and demoed on last Friday. Being busy through weekend, i did not get time to post my experiences. I updated the firmware to the latest 1013 version. This i found on Samsung website along with the upgrade manual. I run the break-in slides using USB for which the link was provided in this thread by Rayban along with the initial conservative settings. Also i am newbie to the world of HD, so any mistakes on my part may be excused

I am currently using the TV in Movie mode with sharpness zero and brightness, contrast set to half.
SD : I am really satisfied with the PQ as nowhere in showrooms i found it good. I am using the hathway cable STB.
HD: Even in the conservative settings, the high PQ is visible. Just changing from movie mode to standard mode tells the difference.

I initially connected 320GB seagate hard disk in which i usually have collection of movies of various formats. I was not sure whether sammy can support it. But hardly in 3 seconds, i got the prompt on TV saying the device is connected. It played many formats that i threw at it. Then i got bit daring and even connected my other 1TB WD hard disk in which exclusively i have blu ray rips. Even this was detected promptly. The first movie i played was Avatar. My folks were just blown away seeing the PQ on such a screen size. All felt the money spent was justified. If a 720p can give out such details, cant wait out to try 1080p movies.

The first channel my dad switched to was watch the current ongoing cricket series. His face lit up with joy . Being in experimentation mood, i connected my Dell Studio using HDMI cable to Sammy. I was astounded by the result. I was sitting nearby and imagined using 50" as monitor. Played with movie files which it displayed but i seem to get sound from my lappy but not from TV ? Should i do anything to get audio output from TV ?

I even have a new WD TV Live yet to be connected but now not sure what can be done with it.

 

[jerry53]

thats cool man did you try any multiaudio mkv on the sammy as far as i know from cnet they are not supported but a user said that his sammy blu-ray player when updated with new firmware supported multi track mkvs so i was kinda hopeful that it can work because i aldready have 2 1080p movies with russian as the primary language and 5.1 english as the secondary.and also did you play any games on it,how does it stack up in the games dept? and also please try to post a pic on it the one they have in the samsung website is way too small.

 

[alokbharti]

Being in experimentation mood, i connected my Dell Studio using HDMI cable to Sammy. I was astounded by the result. I was sitting nearby and imagined using 50" as monitor. Played with movie files which it displayed but i seem to get sound from my lappy but not from TV ? Should i do anything to get audio output from TV ?

select HDMI audio on the audio settings on your laptop.. right click on the volume icon in task-bar should give the option to change to HDMI audio..

 

[jerry53]

try this also i lifted it from another website -On VISTA do this
Right click your screen
go to personalize
on the left there is an option "connect to a projectror or external display"
Click the speaker picture, and set the default to HDMI by right clicking it and selecting make default.
Close your media programs, and then re-open them and hit play..

Presto! Sound will work!

 

[anm]

if I am watching a blu-ray rip through USB port, how do I send sound to my avr? I can see an optical out, but doesn't seem to have hdmi out for audio.

 

[vivekecm]

Jerry53, i did indeed played many MKV files which played flawlessly. Though i am not sure if the MKV's have multiple audio channels. I will verify this and also post my game playing experience by next week. Thanks for your advice on to use audio of lappy. Will check this one out too.

 

[jerry53]

Jerry53, i did indeed played many MKV files which played flawlessly. Though i am not sure if the MKV's have multiple audio channels. I will verify this and also post my game playing experience by next week. Thanks for your advice on to use audio of lappy. Will check this one out too.

well vivek the easiest way to check whether your mkv has multiple audio is to open it via kmplayer and right click and select the media info option it will be denoted as video 1,audio 1,2 if multiple audio is present if multiple subtitle files are present embedded in the same file it will denote as text1,2 etc.if you dont use kmplayer you can use vlc player in which right click-audio-audio tract in that option if 2 audio streams are present it has multiple audio.most small brrips and hd rips do not have multiple audio while almost all large mkvs(1080p) have multiple audio it was one of the best selling points of matroska when it was realeased.
please please please post some pics of the tv im dying to see how it looks like most pics in the samsung website are miniature btw can you please confirm with me if the remote control is backlit,if it is then it would be awesomeee....

 

[jerry53]

if I am watching a blu-ray rip through USB port, how do I send sound to my avr? I can see an optical out, but doesn't seem to have hdmi out for audio.

you can use optical out and you can also use analog out for the sound if you are playing from the usb i dont think that there is any hdmi audio out for it (according to the manual).

 

[vardu]

you can use optical out and you can also use analog out for the sound if you are playing from the usb i dont think that there is any hdmi audio out for it (according to the manual).

At last!!!

:yahoo:

I might have to go out of town for a few weeks and am thankful it got done by today.

I am currently trying it with just two sources - USB HDD and Wii ( my STB connection doesn't extend to the new TV location).

1. It is able to detect the ext HD and play mp4, .vob files with ease - there are issues with particular audio codecs.
2. Even with the lowered settings the PQ is really good.
3. Full HD is a treat ( I had some movie trailors downloaded for this)
4. I tried old DVD rip of "Ben-hur" and "Kathalikka Neramillai" - and was quite impressed with the handling of a old sub-SD, eastman kodak movie.
5. Speakers are not abysmal :lol:

I am still in the process of acquiring some full HD movies to be converted to appropriate mkv/mp4 with the right audio codecs - "sharing of movie data for testing purposes" is always welcome

Things to do
1. Test out with full hd movies via media player
2. Wired LAN connection
3. Access PC with DLAN (maybe install serviio or similar media server that can handle DLAN)
4. Wireless adapter and test speed.
5. Test direct internet apps.

 

[Dushie]

if I am watching a blu-ray rip through USB port, how do I send sound to my avr? I can see an optical out, but doesn't seem to have hdmi out for audio.

I am using the optical out and have plugged the cable on to my denon amp. It's doing a good job.

 

[sanjay0864]

avatar 3d has been released in blu ray and it costs about a 400$ well you can buy 2 blu ray players with that :lol:

Actually the 'Avatar' 3D blu-ray has not been released to retail and the price you mention is for the blu-ray and 'two' Panasonic 3D glasses set being sold by people on e-bay. In actuality the Avatar 3D blu-ray is available for free, but only packaged with the Panasonic 3D TVs as a promotion.

 

[anm]

damn - stock exhausted. Too late in the game to make up my mind

 

[jerry53]

At last!!!

:yahoo:

I might have to go out of town for a few weeks and am thankful it got done by today.

I am currently trying it with just two sources - USB HDD and Wii ( my STB connection doesn't extend to the new TV location).

1. It is able to detect the ext HD and play mp4, .vob files with ease - there are issues with particular audio codecs.
2. Even with the lowered settings the PQ is really good.
3. Full HD is a treat ( I had some movie trailors downloaded for this)
4. I tried old DVD rip of "Ben-hur" and "Kathalikka Neramillai" - and was quite impressed with the handling of a old sub-SD, eastman kodak movie.
5. Speakers are not abysmal :lol:

I am still in the process of acquiring some full HD movies to be converted to appropriate mkv/mp4 with the right audio codecs - "sharing of movie data for testing purposes" is always welcome

Things to do
1. Test out with full hd movies via media player
2. Wired LAN connection
3. Access PC with DLAN (maybe install serviio or similar media server that can handle DLAN)
4. Wireless adapter and test speed.
5. Test direct internet apps.

i certainly would help you in acquiring full hd content for testing purposes (pls check p.m).there is a page in the manual in which all supporting video and audio containers are listed and at the bitrate in which they are supported.
1.most of your movies would work.
2.would work well as from the feedback i got on the net.
3.samsung dlan is lacking when compared to sony's(not from personal exp but from net).
4.huge drops in speed observedin earlier firmware i dont kno how things are now(from net).
5.Most internet apps are realy good most users say but we could have a problem here in india with most foriegn channel apps as they block an indian ip immediately some say cartoon network app works great for them.
enjoy your purchase:yahoo::licklips::clapping:hyeah: