The Movies I Liked

Hi Venkat
I think I would agree with Soundsgreat over here simply because Region 1 (USA) made dvds are anyday better then movies specifically manufactuered by an Indian company for indian market. There is no doubt in that. As for DTS remastering which you say you dont prefer it is more of a personal choice. But for sure if i had to I would also opt to order the Region 1 DVDS rather then buying the ones made by EXCEL video, keeping in mind that the cost factor comes out to be almost the same.

Rikhav, thank you very much for your writing, i am having some movie of region 1, i will play it some day and check the special effects.

Once it is proved for me, that these region 1, etc, from abroad are much better DVDs then i can assure you that i will reduce considerably of my buying DVDs locally from here.

There is one place in Mumbai, which sells these original DVDs, but they want around 1500 bucks for each, this is huge money.

Vinay.
 
If you check out the thread Sreekanth has in detail explained how the Indian companies dont use up to the quality master to make the dvds and that is the reason for lack of quality.

Watched the movie 21. Its a movie all about gambling and BLACKJACK to be precise. Interesting movie to watch

Here is the link for more details about the movie
21 (2008 film - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
 
If you check out the thread Sreekanth has in detail explained how the Indian companies dont use up to the quality master to make the dvds and that is the reason for lack of quality.

Watched the movie 21. Its a movie all about gambling and BLACKJACK to be precise. Interesting movie to watch

Here is the link for more details about the movie
21 (2008 film - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

Rikhav, thanks about this movie 21, i will buy it in due course, as these gambling story lines are of my interest.

About soundsgreat earlier detailed writing on why Indian DVD qualities are not good, my knowledge is to the minimum, some other members can throw more light on it, but then you know at the end of the day the beans are spilled when we watch a imported DVD and the Indian dvd, i used to always think that Sony is the best for DVD, when sounds great said that Sony is bad i was just not ready to believe it, what has happened is that around 2 days ago when i was watching a Sony's dvd, a movie with loads of action scenes, and the effects were just not there, then i realized that there have been earlier movies which i saw of Sony dvd, they also had a similar fate, but maybe some were better, so today i have become very bitter about Sony dvd.


Vinay.
 
Hi,


About the recordings in india, for what you have written, i do not have much knoweldge, people like soundsgreat, sunil, sumit, can comment better, if they remain silent then i think you have a point to make


Vinay First of all let me Clarify that if Am silent that does not mean that I agree or the fact is right ! I will not comment for any and every thing ! So please take a note of this !! Am not here to argue and prove Am right every time or have misunderstanding with the members,Hence will choose carefully only which ever needs the reply or comment,which is worthy enough and reply or comment to only those !! This is applicable to this very thread and every thread thats posted in the forum !!

If I sound rude with the above statements then Am sorry but I can't help it !! but thats not the intention !!

Now coming to your queries, Vinay the site I've given you is legitimate website and will only sell original which is brand new !! so put to rest the doubts of you getting the dvd wrapped in paper !! it will have jewel cases or whichever the one that the DVD manufacturer has originally launched it with !!

The credit card,you can open an paypal account and transfer the money through it ! paypal is available in every country :)!!

The Quality, I've already told you about this ! and another point and most important one !! I will never suggest or recommend anything that does not confirm to my standards ( Yes I have a quality standard for every damn thing in life and way of doing things) or the general standard that is there ! If one wants to misinterpret this then again,its their level of intelligence !! I will not bother ! More over if the original region 1 is not up to the mark then we should all stop watching the movies on the DVD's forever thats all :rolleyes: !!

The damages,yes only if you choose the govt postal service :p !! not in the case of private courier services which is most preferred by the online stores themselves !! So in that the chances are very bleak !!

Customes Duty, Am not very sure bout that !! coz couple of times when I ordered I didn't have to pay any ! but in any case you are a man with contacts :cool:! so I think that should not be a big deal for you !!


Hope I've answered all your queries point to point ! If I've left any please ask so that I can throw some light on them as well ;)!!

Regards.
 
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I've never got a chance to visit Prasad Labs to comment on their facility, hence I cannot comment on these. But every single DVD i bought from India were dissappointing.

Still have to agree with Venkat on the quality of some Tamil movies that I've seen [but they are Aygaran productions, remastered in singapore] are on par with any english movies when it comes to quality barring the ignorance of technical guys. I did a blind test during a forum session at my home, many of the members misunderstood the original material as bluray.
 
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Hi,
Vinay First of all let me Clarify that if Am silent that does not mean that I agree or the fact is right ! I will not comment for any and every thing ! So please take a note of this !! Am not here to argue and prove Am right every time or have misunderstanding with the members,Hence will choose carefully only which ever needs the reply or comment,which is worthy enough and reply or comment to only those !! This is applicable to this very thread and every thread thats posted in the forum !!

If I sound rude with the above statements then Am sorry but I can't help it !! but thats not the intention !!

Now coming to your queries, Vinay the site I've given you is legitimate website and will only sell original which is brand new !! so put to rest the doubts of you getting the dvd wrapped in paper !! it will have jewel cases or whichever the one that the DVD manufacturer has originally launched it with !!

The credit card,you can open an paypal account and transfer the money through it ! paypal is available in every country :)!!

The Quality, I've already told you about this ! and another point and most important one !! I will never suggest or recommend anything that does not confirm to my standards ( Yes I have a quality standard for every damn thing in life and way of doing things) or the general standard that is there ! If one wants to misinterpret this then again,its their level of intelligence !! I will not bother ! More over if the original region 1 is not up to the mark then we should all stop watching the movies on the DVD's forever thats all :rolleyes: !!

The damages,yes only if you choose the govt postal service :p !! not in the case of private courier services which is most preferred by the online stores themselves !! So in that the chances are very bleak !!

Customes Duty, Am not very sure bout that !! coz couple of times when I ordered I didn't have to pay any ! but in any case you are a man with contacts :cool:! so I think that should not be a big deal for you !!


Hope I've answered all your queries point to point ! If I've left any please ask so that I can throw some light on them as well ;)!!

Regards.

Soundsgreat,

Indeed when someone is silent it does not mean that one agrees with something, but than what i strongly feel is that if someone has made a point about something, and later someone does not agree, then there should be exchange of posts to understand what is correct or wrong, there can so many clarifications, results, etc for mutual benefits.

I do realize now that you have a good point that the site is legitimate website, so it will be worth taking a chance, at the best i can use a risk management, order one or two DVDs's, i like the way you explained me on this, thank you very much.

About the credit card, thanks for giving me a way out, i would have not realized this.

Indeed your recommendation matters to me, that is why i did not buy those 20 DVDs's of james bond, it is just that i was worried, over here too, you have explained to me so nicely and i have understood, so i think you are saying that if one can get the original region one, then it will be a good quality DVD in all respects.

About the courier, i did not realize that the sites, have a set of private couriers who know how to handle such fragile items, so my fear on this count has gone, thank you very much.

About customs duty, again, i like the way you explained me, and the beauty is that you have been getting DVDs's from abroad without much problem, so it is simple for me then, order 1 or 2 copies, see if the duty is charged, and if charged is it viable or no, having said that, even if the cost with duty is some what higher than the DVD cost over here, i am ever willing to pay, if the quality of DVD is good in form of the effects, picture quality, etc.

I once again say thank you for answering me so much point by point, if all goes well then maybe i will always import the English movies from abroad.

Vinay.
 
Gents, this thread is starting to get a little argumentative so I will just stop commenting.

At the same time there are certain things that I would like to clarify. The region codes are small tokens or codes placed on the DVD and recognised by the DVD player. This has nothing to do with the quality of the manufacturing process. So when we say Region 1 DVD we are assuming that we are referring to DVD manufactured in the US.

Vinay to answer you question on the Bond movies, 22 movies at INR12,000 comes to roughly 545 per DVD. If I am not wrong, this is the rough price of DVDs sold individually also. If you like one of the single DVD, I am sure the retailer would be happy to get you all the DVDs at a huge discount.

Over the next few days, I shall see what Bond movies are available individually, and may try a few old ones to see the quality.
 
every single DVD i bought from India were dissappointing.

Still have to agree with Venkat on the quality of some Tamil movies that I've seen [but they are Aygaran productions, remastered in singapore] are on par with any english movies when it comes to quality barring the ignorance of technical guys. I did a blind test during a forum session at my home, many of the members misunderstood the original material as bluray.

Sunil, i like the idea of a blind test, and this is some news to me that all DVDs bought from India, you found it disappointing, does this refer to both English and Hindi movies?

Thank you very much for showing the photo of SPL.

Vinay.
 
Gents, this thread is starting to get a little argumentative so I will just stop commenting.

At the same time there are certain things that I would like to clarify. The region codes are small tokens or codes placed on the DVD and recognised by the DVD player. This has nothing to do with the quality of the manufacturing process. So when we say Region 1 DVD we are assuming that we are referring to DVD manufactured in the US.

Vinay to answer you question on the Bond movies, 22 movies at INR12,000 comes to roughly 545 per DVD. If I am not wrong, this is the rough price of DVDs sold individually also. If you like one of the single DVD, I am sure the retailer would be happy to get you all the DVDs at a huge discount.

Over the next few days, I shall see what Bond movies are available individually, and may try a few old ones to see the quality.

Venkatcr,

You are new at this forum, many a times there are arguments happening over here, as long as it is healthy it is fine, but the problem begins when one gets into in-direct ragging, etc, and when you catch someone, then he will say no i meant it this way and that way, and you should see how evasive people get.

Now about these region codes which you are saying, now this is another news for me, thank you very much for explaining your point of view on regions, people like us who do not understand much on these things, it becomes all the more important that there should be a few counters what is being said, then only we can read between the lines what could be the correct thing, it is quite un-fair when there is no counter, just because one things he is right, etc.

I allready told you why i am not buying one DVD of James bond movie, these 22 movies come with a very good DVD rack, and one or two accessories which were used in bond movies. I greatly appreciate your efforts on finding about the quality of the older bond movies.

I will give you the details of the Chennai, member who is working on acoustics.

Vinay.
 
Yes Vinay! surround audio mixing, in particular. Finally I stopped buying DVDs, even I was bit skeptical about the quality of blurays but that proved wrong.

Vinay, when you order DVDs, don't order in bulk. Always buy 1 or 2, as it will cross the customs without any trouble. Here we have a limit of £20, anything above will be charged for duty.

Sunil, i like the idea of a blind test, and this is some news to me that all DVDs bought from India, you found it disappointing, does this refer to both English and Hindi movies?

Thank you very much for showing the photo of SPL.

Vinay.
 
Yes Vinay! surround audio mixing, in particular. Finally I stopped buying DVDs, even I was bit skeptical about the quality of blurays but that proved wrong.

Vinay, when you order DVDs, don't order in bulk. Always buy 1 or 2, as it will cross the customs without any trouble. Here we have a limit of £20, anything above will be charged for duty.

Sunil, i tell you, there is so much to learn from many members like you.

I thank you very much for explaining me about the reasons for not liking the Indian made DVDs's, and about the customs duty factor.

I am surprised that why was i so worried about importing the DVD, even if things would have gone wrong, the money involved would be peanuts, as i have the reputation, that if i want to do something big, first play to the zero level to test the waters, it is like when i want to buy say 1000 shares of reliance, i buy only one single share, if it passes my test, i buy the 1000 shares, if the test fails, i forget reliance for that day.

Vinay.
 
U ME AUR HUM -

A Film by Ajay Devgan.

I liked the movie.

The print of the movie was good, even the sound quality was good.

On the DVD cover it was mentioned that the print is mastered from High Definition (HD).

Vinay.
 
The Quality Of DVD

I used to buy any brand of DVD, later i started realizing that some of the brand's quality of recording is a bad one, and later soundsgreat bought a lot of awareness in me about the good, bad, and ugly DVD's, it is quite a learning for me about the dts factor.

I feel the worst has begun in India, with dvd's for around 50 bucks or so, you can imagine what kind of a quality will that be, so people like us will have no choice but to switch to english movies.
 
Hi,

i strongly feel is that if someone has made a point about something, and later someone does not agree, then there should be exchange of posts to understand what is correct or wrong, there can so many clarifications, results, etc for mutual benefits

For the above reason and only for the above reason Am commenting !!

For people who think the region code is a mere representation of the manufacturer country ! and this has nothing to do with quality,I have some bad news !!

First and foremost I agree that these regions codes are to identify the origin of the country ! No issues there,but the quality of the dvd is not same throughout all the regions for 1000 reasons !!

1. You have different system for viewing,Namely PAL and NTSC ! So I don't know how the PAL master is sent to all over the world to duplicate and sold in a country where the system is incompatible and the same goes to NTSC master !!

2. Its well known fact that the NTSC uses different frame rate to capture film (either in the original reel or the DVD), The NTSC uses 30 frame per second while PAL uses 25, So how can one compare this both together and say both are same ??

3.The NTSC uses a different colour filter technology (the way colour is reproduced) and PAL uses different ! here there is a huge debate as to which is better and what not ! which out of the scope of this post,so will not go there ! But again how can you compare both and say both are same ??

4.All the major english movies are produced in USA barring a few British and other films ! so needless to say the NTSC master has to be re-encoded to PAL for obvious reasons ! so again the question using the same master does not arise ! This also brings Us to the very very important aspect of quality ! thats is direct negative to dvd transfer !! this is done by major hollywood studios to keep the original quality intact,This is also a major factor for the superior quality ! now how can this be compared to other where the negative has been transfered onto something else and converted to something else before ending up in the DVD ???

5.In the US itself there are many types of quality,for Ex you have widescreen DVD,fullscreen,special edition and limited extended edition, you have Unrated (meaning no censor and no editing) so obviously all the quality will not be same will it be ? so how are you sure that what you get in other regions are of the same quality ??

6.Some of the studios release their DVDs on a special version which is mainly for diehard quality freaks (like myself) and strip the DVD with all the special features and making more room for the absolute quality by allocating maximum space for Movie rather then those extra's ! So how is even possible to compare such a superior DVD to a regular DVD of the same region let alone in a different region ???

7.Also another major point is Sub-Titling ! now if the same master is directly transfered in every region then how can you get a disc in US with only Captioned English and sometimes french or Spanish ones and the one's sold elsewhere has the local language ?? And most importantly why does an Indian DVD has Malay or Taiwanese Subtitles ? if the Indian Post production houses are so good then why is the need for a Taiwan malaysia master ??

8.Coming to India specific,Even the Bollywood movie DVD's sold in the US are better then that of the same available in india ! Also while some of them are Dual Layered Disc Some are Single layered ! so how can the quality of compressed DVD be compared to Full ?? It is like comparing 128Kbps Mp3 to Regular CD !!

9.If the Indian Replication and Postproduction were of that high standard then why is that some of the Major Indian companies don't trust them and end-up replicating them in Taiwan and Malaysia ? That too with such good quality compared to Average Indian replicated ones ??

10. Also some of the movies are released under multiple brands under multiple pricing ? while one is of better the other isn't for obvious reasons ! Why is this ??

This is just the tip of the Iceberg and if I start to tell more then I'll end-up choking the server of the forum !! so will not !

Summery:
If we cannot compare the quality of the discs sold in various Avtaars in the US only,then how can you compare that with the discs sold in India and other neighboring countries ? also with the earlier mentioned points I think its very very clear that what we get in india are for sure a substandard DVD's from major companies barring few (which I have already mentioned) and there is no reason to believe thats ever going to change ! Now even more so, coz of this 50 Bucks DVD entry into the market (I've nothing against it but )


If someone still does not agree to the above even now then perphaps they could please explain otherwise why Sony and Saregama and others sell the NON DTS, NON Anamorphic Widescreen and NON Standard Discs ?? Why they don't have a single title with DTS and other specifications ?

If the Specifications are not of that important then,what defines the difference between the Camera print sold on the road side and the very same title from a reputed brand Sold in a store ?? For non spec folks both are same ! As they don't believe in specs !

I hope with the above one ascertain the quality advantages that I had originally mentioned ! and even if still some one thinks contradictory then all I can is GOOD LUCK MAY THE FORCE BE YOU !!

Regards.
 
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The Big DVD Quality Education

Hi,



For the above reason and only for the above reason Am commenting !!

For people who think the region code is a mere representation of the manufacturer country ! and this has nothing to do with quality,I have some bad news !!

First and foremost I agree that these regions codes are to identify the origin of the country ! No issues there,but the quality of the dvd is not same throughout all the regions for 1000 reasons !!

1. You have different system for viewing,Namely PAL and NTSC ! So I don't how the PAL master is sent to all over the world to duplicate and sold in a country where the system is incompatible and the same goes to NTSC master !!

2. Its well known fact that the NTSC uses different frame rate to capture film (either in the original reel or the DVD), The NTSC uses 30 frame per second while PAL uses 25, So how can one compare this both together and say both are same ??

3.The NTSC uses a different colour filter technology (the way colour is reproduced) and PAL uses different ! here there is a huge debate as to which is better and what not ! which out of the scope of this post,so will not go there ! But again how can you compare both and say both are same ??

4.All the major english movies are produced in USA barring a few British and other films ! so needless to say the NTSC master has to be re-encoded to PAL for obvious reasons ! so again the question using the same master does not arise ! This also brings Us to the very very important aspect of quality ! thats is direct negative to dvd transfer !! this is done by major hollywood studios to keep the original quality intact,This is also a major factor for the superior quality ! now how can this be compared to other where the negative has been transfered onto something else and converted to something else before ending up in the DVD ???

5.In the US itself there are many types of quality,for Ex you have widescreen DVD,fullscreen,special edition and limited extended edition, you have Unrated (meaning no censor and no editing) so obviously all the quality will not be same will it be ? so how are you sure that what you get in other regions are of the same quality ??

6.Some of the studios release their DVDs on a special version which is mainly for diehard quality freaks (like myself) and strip the DVD with all the special features and making more room for the absolute quality by allocating maximum space for DVD rather then those extra's ! So how is even possible to compare such a superior DVD to a regular DVD of the same region let alone in a different region ???

7.Also another major point is Sub-Titling ! now if the same master is directly transfered in every region then how can you get a disc in US with only Captioned English and sometimes french or Spanish ones and the one's sold elsewhere has the local language ?? And most importantly why does an Indian DVD has Malay or Taiwanese Subtitles ? if the Indian Post production houses are so good then why is the need for a Taiwan malaysia master ??

8.Coming to India specific,Even the Bollywood movie DVD's sold in the US are better then that of the same available in india ! Also while some of them are Dual Layered Disc Some are Single layered ! so how can the quality of compressed DVD be compared to Full ?? It is like comparing 128Kbps Mp3 to Regular CD !!

9.If the Indian Replication and Postproduction were of that high standard then why is that some of the Major Indian companies don't trust them and end-up replicating them in Taiwan and Malaysia ? That too with such good quality compared to Average Indian replicated ones ??

10. Also some of the movies are released under multiple brands under multiple pricing ? while one is of better the other isn't for obvious reasons ! Why is this ??

This is just the tip of the Iceberg and if I start to tell more then I'll end-up choking the server of the forum !! so will not !

Summery:
If we cannot compare the quality of the discs sold in various Avtaars in the US only,then how can you compare that with the discs sold in India and other neighboring countries ? also with the earlier mentioned points I think its very very clear that what we get in india are for sure a substandard DVD's from major companies barring few (which I have already mentioned) and there is no reason to believe thats ever going to change ! Now even more so, coz of this 50 Bucks DVD entry into the market (I've nothing against it but )


If someone still does not agree to the above even now then perphaps they could please explain otherwise why Sony and Saregama and others sell the NON DTS, NON Anamorphic Widescreen and NON Standard Discs ?? Why they don't have a single title with DTS and other specifications ?

If the Specifications are not of that important then,what defines the difference between the Camera print sold on the road side and the very same title from a reputed brand Sold in a store ?? For non spec folks both are same ! As they don't believe in specs !

I hope with the above one ascertain the quality advantages that I had originally mentioned ! and even if still some one thinks contradictory then all I can is GOOD LUCK MAY THE FORCE BE YOU !!

Regards.

Soundsgreat,

I am shocked with joy about the detail in which you explained, as usual you take out so much time to write these details, i can say that there is not a single member as devoted as you.

At the face of your writing, I think that no member will come forward to say that you are wrong in your writings.

With your these writings no wonder, i am at the verge of stopping to buy DVDs in India.

I salute you.

Thank you very much.

Vinay.
 
FIRE WALL - Action Thriller - Harrison Ford

Ice-blooded crime mastermind.

The desperation of a man with everything to lose.

It is story of an I.T. expert, his wife and children are held hostage at home, their kidnappers have one demand, that their husband must heist $100 million from the ultra-secure system he has designed.

Vinay.
 
FIRE WALL - Action Thriller - Harrison Ford

Ice-blooded crime mastermind.

The desperation of a man with everything to lose.

It is story of an I.T. expert, his wife and children are held hostage at home, their kidnappers have one demand, that their husband must heist $100 million from the ultra-secure system he has designed.

Vinay.


Had watched this movie few years back. Quiet a good one
 
PAY CHECK - Action / Thriller

This movie is from the director of Face/Off.

The movie is about a brilliant computer engineer hired for work on top-secret projects.

Vinay.
 
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