Toshiba U79 and U80 Owners Discussion And Review !!

[lightgamer]

Tbh I am not a TV guy, I used to have an Epson 1080p projector that has lasted well over 10 years (got the lamp changed after 5 years)untill it broke down recently and I don't intend to get it repaired and used normal hd firetvstick plugged direct into my avr. I got the Toshiba TV just as temporary thing to try out 4k for the first time. Once I get the Atmos setup , I'll get a benq or Epson 4k hdr projector installed, so I'll definitely need a 4k streaming device some time later plugged directly in the avr, and shift this Toshiba TV to my bedroom. I wish I could get the Nvidia shield tha can support Dolby Atmos over turehd

There was a guy selling Nvidia Shield 2019 yesterday in the classified section. He has now withdrawn it though:
Sale with drawn Nvidia shield tv | HiFiVision.com

Also, you can buy the shield in India, albeit at an inflated price. Here's the amazon link.

If firetvstick doesn't give Atmos update for netflix then xstream box it is , since none of the projectors available now are Dolby vision enabled and are just HDR which the xstream box does support.

You can also get an HTPC going which will support everything except Dolby Vision (which might also come in Windows 10 as Atmos did), MadVR upscaling and nice gaming support.

Also, you need at least 10000 lumens to get good HDR performance from a projector. So even HDR doesn't really matter. Projectors are not meant for HDR impact because most of them project 50 nits of brightness on the wall. MadVR's DTM helps a lot with those projectors.

Personally I feel Dolby Atmos be it over DD+ is a much much bigger jump than the 25+ year old Dolby digital sound as compared to Dolby vision over hdr specially in a TV less than 1000nits.
And for a projector one doesn't even need Dolby vision.

Dolby Atmos is not a successor to Dolby Digital sound. Dolby Digital is a codec while Atmos is a way of encoding that data.

Dolby Digital -> Dolby Digital Plus -> Dolby True HD is codec update cycle. Atmos is just height channel information encoded over DD+ or TrueHD, with TrueHD version being the full-fat uncompressed version.

Firestick 4k supports both DTS HD and TRUE HD codecs, which are way more important than Atmos in Netflix. Airtel Xstream doesn't.

Also, Dolby Vision is most helpful for TVs below 500 nits due to dynamic metadata. For high-brightness TVs Dolby Vision does mostly nothing as they can display the pure version of HDR too. Vision is more about tone-mapping HDR outside the TV's dynamic range.

For a projector, even HDR is useless since it can't display proper HDR anyway unless you get the $12000 Sony one with 10000 lumens.

 

[architlfc]

Hey guys, been a lurker for quite sometime. Finally managed to go through all the pages of this thread.

I'm looking for a 4K 55inch TV and had my heart set on the Toshiba U5050. But seems like U7980 is much better and my budget is around 50k so I can afford the latter.

I'll be using the TV for OTT content consumption and casual console gaming.

Is the input lag so bad that this TV can't be used for casual gaming as well? Also, is there any other better option or should I go with the U7980?

Any kind of help will be highly appreciated.

 

[Prameet]

Even though I am a Home theatre enthusiast, I cannot shell out money on everything at a go.

Buying Nvidia shield at an inflated price was never an option. Will wait for an official Indian release or ask a relative to bring it from the USA when he comes back after the pandemic is over.

First thing on my to do list was try out 4k, which I did by buying the u7980 TV.

Next is to upgrade the speaker setup I have from 7.1 to 7.1.2 and eventually take it to 7.2.4 but not at a go. I'll do it slowly over time.

A decent not overly priced 4k projector that supports HDR might cost somewhere around 2.5L is good enough wrt to my budget ,may be will buy it 6-8months down the line. Till then Toshiba TV is my go-to 4k display.

Although I haven't tried any dts-hdma or true hd content on any xstream box but , I have seen options and settings on my friends xstream box that support these codecs. The only thing is Atmos over DD+ is supported which is good enough for netflix.

Other then ott content ( netflix , prime video and hotstar),I used my laptop to play movies that supported upto 1080p output only via hdmi and dtshdma/turehd as sound formats.

I'll see what I'll use once I get the newer projector may be a new laptop if Plex over xstream box doesn't work properly or if I get my hands on a Nvidia shield.

As of now to play my local content I am used to connecting HDD directly to my Toshiba TV and it plays all the files even the big 20gb 4k HDR DD+Atmos content with ease .

Irrespective of what Atmos is an object based encoding or whatever , it is a very big upgrade to traditional surround sound options and worth it. The listening experience and the feeling of being engulfed in an 3d sphere of sound is out of the world.

 

[lightgamer]

A decent not overly priced 4k projector that supports HDR might cost somewhere around 2.5L is good enough wrt to my budget ,

Is there any such projector? I thought all HDR capable projectors (700+ nits over 120") cost at least 8-10 lacs.

 

[Prameet]

Is there any such projector? I thought all HDR capable projectors (700+ nits over 120") cost at least 8-10 lacs.

You can't count projector brightness in nits. The farther away it is from the wall the dimmer it gets. You count them in lumens. Also since my theatre room is pitch dark, I think lower brightness won't be an issue in my case

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[lightgamer]

You can't count projector brightness in nits. The farther away it is from the wall the dimmer it gets. You count them in lumens. Also since my theatre room is pitch dark, I think lower brightness won't be an issue in my case

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[bipin1143]

To all toshiba U79 users with external streaming devices:
I highly recommend using 'smart youtube TV' which is a third party youtube app that unlocks so many options
It works like Youtube Vanced which is popular on android phones.

Pros:
Advanced Video Resolution presets [great for HDR playback]
Audio presets [opus,m4a]
AutoFramerate
Video buffer adjustment
Advanced media Info
Customizable UI
Background playback
NO ADS!!!! [inbuilt ad-blocker]

Cons:
A bit laggy interface
Voice search doest work properly[on my firestick 4k]

Link https://smartyoutubetv.github.io/
I recommend using the beta version
the stable one has issues playing HDR content

For folks using Firstick
Use apps2fire from your android phones to install on the firestick
I hope this helps your viewing experience

Did anyone try this?

 

[Appys]

So Toshiba U8080 > H9G(2020) , Hisense U7QF> H8G(2020) and Toshiba 7980 is H8F(2019) and the next CES is merely weeks away. Hope the 2020 models see a better pricing by being built in india. Their current qleds are mighty expensive

 

[lightgamer]

So Toshiba U8080 > H9G(2020) , Hisense U7QF> H8G(2020) and Toshiba 7980 is H8F(2019) and the next CES is merely weeks away. Hope the 2020 models see a better pricing by being built in india. Their current qleds are mighty expensive

This is what the general consensus is based on specs. But since no one has seen these(U80) TV sets, nothing can be said for certain. A 65" H9G grade TV for 90k will be a pretty good offering to have in India though since we don't get those amazing TCL and Vizio TVs in India.

I hope TCL would start selling their good 6 and 8 series mini LEDs in India though.

 

[Appys]

This is what the general consensus is based on specs. But since no one has seen these(U80) TV sets, nothing can be said for certain. A 65" H9G grade TV for 90k will be a pretty good offering to have in India though since we don't get those amazing TCL and Vizio TVs in India.

I hope TCL would start selling their good 6 and 8 series mini LEDs in India though.

Agreed, U7QF they themselves mark as h8g on hisense website, while for toshiba 8080 its just based on specs and back panel setup minus the refresh rate of h9g. Plus With Toshiba they are pushing Vidaa and Hisense the Android Tv platform. TCL TV's are not at all comparable in India as while they have been selling 6 series for years in US the good models of theirs were washed out when I saw in live demo. Sad why someone wouldn't soon setup a full lineup here like the iphones and give somewhat better pricing. U7QF too for that matter is overpriced.

 

[sandeeprawat]

Even though I don't have Atmos setup I do see Atmos logo for Coolie No 1 movie on Fire stick

 

[Srinivasa Rao]

Even though I don't have Atmos setup I do see Atmos logo for Coolie No 1 movie on Fire stick

On Firestick 4K by default in settings HDR and Atmos will be on and everything displays like that. Someone mentioned that in this forum. You need to look for that in audio settings

 

[neoonwheels]

It's been just a week since I got 65 inch u7980 and I have already started to see a flickering line some times near the bottom of the screen about 2 inches from the bottom where the picture menu shows up. Some times a flickering line is seen across the width of the television. Has anyone else noticed it? I usually happens when there is text at the bottom of the screen either subtitles or picture menu is open. Is there a defect in the TV?

Never seen this issue in my 3 months usage of 65inch U7980 model

 

[Prameet]

Even though I don't have Atmos setup I do see Atmos logo for Coolie No 1 movie on Fire stick

The TV is Atmos enabled and it can detect Atmos signal. Hence the Atmos logo

 

[lightgamer]

Even though I don't have Atmos setup I do see Atmos logo for Coolie No 1 movie on Fire stick

The TV's default speakers are Atmos. They sound like crap, but when TV detects an Atmos signal it will display it and it will play it. Shows how nonsensical a branding or certification is.

This movie is rated very badly though. Why are you watching it?

On Firestick 4K by default in settings HDR and Atmos will be on and everything displays like that. Someone mentioned that in this forum. You need to look for that in audio settings

That's true for HDR. But by default the firestick is not on Atmos mode. This logo will only show up if the content supports Atmos.

 

[neoonwheels]

The TV's default speakers are Atmos. They sound like crap, but when TV detects an Atmos signal it will display it and it will play it. Shows how nonsensical a branding or certification is.

This movie is rated very badly though. Why are you watching it?

That's true for HDR. But by default the firestick is not on Atmos mode. This logo will only show up if the content supports Atmos.

Is it the reason why native NF app does not show Atmos (For Atmos enabled titles) when I set the speakers to 'HMDI ARC' -> AVR which is 5.1?

 

[lightgamer]

Is it the reason why native NF app does not show Atmos (For Atmos enabled titles) when I set the speakers to 'HMDI ARC' -> AVR which is 5.1?

No, that's not the reason. The Netflix app on the TV is old because it's VIDAA 3 version of Netflix. VIDAA 4 has been out for more than a year now. The apps are really, really old and Netflix is the only app that works okay.

Even Plex, YouTube and Prime apps on the TV are really old and outdated. Plex just doesn't work now, YouTube doesn't work with 18:9 videos properly, Prime also is really slow and has 720p interface.

The TV will show Atmos on every Atmos file, even if you play it on 5.1 channel system. Obviously the height channels will just not play.

You can think of Atmos as regular surround audio but in z axis instead of x-y. If you don't have the hardware, it's just not played by your AVR. So a 5.1.2 signal will be downscaled to 5.1 by just ignoring the rest.

 

[HE-MAN]

This movie is rated very badly though. Why are you watching it?

Personal choice/preference maybe.

 

[Donivlapog]

Каждое кино отличное и важное. Без кино нет будет телевизоров! Нельзя такое скажите, пожалуйста.

 

[Appys]

Sometimes, it's less of a forum more of aunties scratching each others egos. Fight