Vinyl I am listening to...

[christian paul]

@limewire
I got this LP for free from one of the local music stores in the 80s - those days record companies usually issued such sample records (collection of tracks from different artists) before releasing full fledged albums of the artists. The particular store had plenty of such albums and the owner used to give away these records for free to his regular customers.

 

[peace_sells]

Was listening to these 3 records yesterday while watching football.

Got this one from Reliance Timeout 3/4 days ago (I think I was their last customer. After that day they shut down their shop. Infact all R-Timeout shops are now going to be shut down. Apparently due to overindulgence of public in the digital form. Really sad because they were one of the few stores that used to sell LPs)

Manganiyar Seduction by Roysten Abel (this album will make any Indian proud!)


Canadian post-rock/ambient band Godspeed you! Black Emperor


Leviathan by Mastodon

 

[soulforged]

^^^

Are you saying you got Mastodon and Godspeed from Reliance timeout!!! Which one???

All I usually saw in the name of Rock at Phoenix were AC/DC and Metallica...

 

[peace_sells]

^^^

Are you saying you got Mastodon and Godspeed from Reliance timeout!!! Which one???

All I usually saw in the name of Rock at Phoenix were AC/DC and Metallica...

No no. I forgot to mention. I got just the first one from Reliance. The other two from Flipkart (finally I got something from them after 7 cancellations in a row!). You listen to Godspeed and Mastodon?

 

[soulforged]

No no. I forgot to mention. I got just the first one from Reliance. The other two from Flipkart (finally I got something from them after 7 cancellations in a row!). You listen to Godspeed and Mastodon?

oh...ok...thought I'd missed something...

I do listen to the likes of Godspeed and Mastodon though my preference is slightly away when it comes to metal (Shadow Gallery, Symphony X, Deadsoul Tribe, Fates Warning, PoS and the likes...) Wish I could get a few of them on Vinyl...not much luck there...

 

[wlg]

Big Burly Burl Ives

 

[peace_sells]

oh...ok...thought I'd missed something...

I do listen to the likes of Godspeed and Mastodon though my preference is slightly away when it comes to metal (Shadow Gallery, Symphony X, Deadsoul Tribe, Fates Warning, PoS and the likes...) Wish I could get a few of them on Vinyl...not much luck there...

That's great man..Nice taste you've got there. I have Fates Warning (A Pleasant Shade of Gray, Perfect Symmetry) and Symphony X (Divine Wings of Tragedy) on vinyl!

POS were going to release Perfect Element Part I on vinyl (which I was eagerly waiting for)..but then suddenly something happened and no copies came out. Some licensing issues i guess.

If you want some Symphony X vinyls then you can check it out on Century Media online store. CM Distro - Your premiere metal mailorder They were reissued in 2012. They're still in stock!

 

[alwayslogo]

Yeh duniya agar mil milbhi jaye to kya hai....Very much relevant in todays time....

 

[reubensm]

Heavy Metal night yesterday,

 

[Saket]

Heavy Metal night yesterday,

Ah! Among my favourites. I am sure that typical heavy & thick sound that Metallica inherently has, it would sound much fuller on vinyls.

Regards,
Saket

 

[christian paul]

 

[reubensm]

Ah! Among my favourites. I am sure that typical heavy & thick sound that Metallica inherently has, it would sound much fuller on vinyls.

Regards,
Saket

Actually, these LPs are not mine but a close friend's. He has left them with me for me to listen to. The AC DC pressing is a superb Atlantic pressing. It easily outdoes the Kill em' all pressing (from Flipkart, I assume).

The sound of Kill em' all was traditionally a bit thin, metallica generally preferred bass emphasis (with the exception being ...and Justice for all)

Now, here's the big statement (and that too from a vinyl guy), somehow to me, metal sounds better on CD. Vinyl is too warm for kick-ass heavy metal. When we listen to metal, we're not looking for warm smooth, free flowing sound, we are looking for high-impact sound with extended bass and highs. Mids are not very welcome

 

[reubensm]

tonight's fare:

 

[wlg]

Vinyls I am listening to ...

 

[peace_sells]

Now, here's the big statement (and that too from a vinyl guy), somehow to me, metal sounds better on CD. Vinyl is too warm for kick-ass heavy metal. When we listen to metal, we're not looking for warm smooth, free flowing sound, we are looking for high-impact sound with extended bass and highs. Mids are not very welcome

I object judge sahab! I know I'm a too young and a noob compared to you w.r.t. the world of vinyl..but I'll tell you what my ears have experienced so far. I think that metal sounds MUCH better on vinyl as compared to CD. Maybe I have a cheap CD player i don't know (Sony Play Station 2. But I have a good friend who has a Cambridge Audio CD player. Supposed to be pretty high end)..Plus it depends on which CD/vinyl pressings you're comparing..but what i like better about the sound from a vinyl is the tone of the bass guitar and drums. They just don't sound like that on CDs. Its like eating hot, spicy chicken kabab with Limca :thumbsup:

The lower frequency spectrum sounds so much better that i just cannot think of listening to an album on CD if i already have it on vinyl. For e.g. Slayer's Reign in Blood. I have the original US Def Jam pressing on vinyl and Japanese (OBI strip) remastered CD version. The double bass drums sound so juicy and heavy on vinyl. The bass guitar sounds extra 'noodly'. Whereas on CD, the double bass seems to sound a little distorted..(remember; drums used in rock music are acoustic drums. They are supposed to have no distortion on them at all), the volume of bass guitar sounds lesser. The lead guitars and vocals seem to be pretty much the same on CD and vinyl, but like i said : the quality of the lower frequencies on vinyl just slays the CD version! I just feel like kissing my turntable when i hear the rhythm section so brilliantly on it!

I have a Dream Theater album which was reissued on vinyl (for the first time) early this year. It was only released on CD before. Now this was another example where the vinyl version just whirlwind-ed the CD version (this was a Music on Vinyl pressing..MOV generally put out really high quality pressings of classic albums)

Anyway that's my opinion

tonight's fare:

Classic albums there! I especially love that VH album. I'd say that's my fav by them (Close call between that and their debut).

 

[jls001]

Classic albums there! I especially love that VH album. I'd say that's my fav by them (Close call between that and their debut).

The most seminal VH album, IMHO, is 5150. It brought in a new slickness (not that David Lee Roth used to lack flamboyance and style), brought out (Eddie) Van Halen the synthmeister (I believe he won Guitar Player as well as Keyboard Player that year), and of course it introduced Sammy Hagar to a larger audience. By comparison, their previous albums sounded like they were put together in a hurry in the van Halen's garage.

As to whether heavy rock sounds better on vinyl, I can't hear much difference in Metallica's self titled (black) album or their Master of Puppets albums. In fact both sound horrible on vinyl. But I love GnR's Apetite for Destruction and Use Your Illusion I (still looking for II) on vinyl. (PS: I am at best a casual listener of rock and metal nowadays so my comments/opinions may also be treated as such).

 

[reubensm]

Good points but for a music guy like me, when listening to metal. the tech specs and logic take a back seat. IMO rock is not meant to be played neutrally. If that was the case, we would not need guitar amplification gimmics anyways. But again, no intention of setting off a vinyl vs cd heavy metal debate. Its all about personal taste. Metal sounds better when played in extreme circumstances, with good highs, deep bass, moderate mids and loud volumes and hence, I prefer CDs. Because metal music body is so full and loud, there is no space for critical listening. This is unlike the case when I listen to orchestration, etc. Neverthless, this again is personal taste. That's why my personal metal collection is basically on CD.

I object judge sahab! I know I'm a too young and a noob compared to you w.r.t. the world of vinyl..but I'll tell you what my ears have experienced so far. I think that metal sounds MUCH better on vinyl as compared to CD. Maybe I have a cheap CD player i don't know (Sony Play Station 2. But I have a good friend who has a Cambridge Audio CD player. Supposed to be pretty high end)..Plus it depends on which CD/vinyl pressings you're comparing..but what i like better about the sound from a vinyl is the tone of the bass guitar and drums. They just don't sound like that on CDs. Its like eating hot, spicy chicken kabab with Limca :thumbsup:

The lower frequency spectrum sounds so much better that i just cannot think of listening to an album on CD if i already have it on vinyl. For e.g. Slayer's Reign in Blood. I have the original US Def Jam pressing on vinyl and Japanese (OBI strip) remastered CD version. The double bass drums sound so juicy and heavy on vinyl. The bass guitar sounds extra 'noodly'. Whereas on CD, the double bass seems to sound a little distorted..(remember; drums used in rock music are acoustic drums. They are supposed to have no distortion on them at all), the volume of bass guitar sounds lesser. The lead guitars and vocals seem to be pretty much the same on CD and vinyl, but like i said : the quality of the lower frequencies on vinyl just slays the CD version! I just feel like kissing my turntable when i hear the rhythm section so brilliantly on it!

I have a Dream Theater album which was reissued on vinyl (for the first time) early this year. It was only released on CD before. Now this was another example where the vinyl version just whirlwind-ed the CD version (this was a Music on Vinyl pressing..MOV generally put out really high quality pressings of classic albums)

Anyway that's my opinion



Classic albums there! I especially love that VH album. I'd say that's my fav by them (Close call between that and their debut).

 

[reubensm]

The most seminal VH album, IMHO, is 5150. It brought in a new slickness (not that David Lee Roth used to lack flamboyance and style), brought out (Eddie) Van Halen the synthmeister (I believe he won Guitar Player as well as Keyboard Player that year), and of course it introduced Sammy Hagar to a larger audience. By comparison, their previous albums sounded like they were put together in a hurry in the van Halen's garage.

As to whether heavy rock sounds better on vinyl, I can't hear much difference in Metallica's self titled (black) album or their Master of Puppets albums. In fact both sound horrible on vinyl. But I love GnR's Apetite for Destruction and Use Your Illusion I (still looking for II) on vinyl. (PS: I am at best a casual listener of rock and metal nowadays so my comments/opinions may also be treated as such).

My favs are Balance and OU812, although DLR was good, especially on Jump, The live album, Right here Right now was great and so was For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge. I was always a Sammy Hager fan.

 

[peace_sells]

Because metal music body is so full and loud, there is no space for critical listening.

That's where our thoughts differ i think. As far as I'm concerned, I listen to metal 'critically' also. I pay close attention to every instrument. Just like how you're saying you'd do with a classical piece of music (metal draws a lot of influences from classical music). In fact, most metal fans that I've come across listen 'critically'. Maybe because lot of metal fans are musicians (metal generally requires a good amount of skill level which musicians appreciate and respect).

Not to say that non-musicians do not listen to metal (you seem to fall under this category if right? ), but i think they listen to metal as a means of expression. For the feel. Its like an outlet. That applies to musicians as well but that critical listening also becomes a part of it (for good or bad).

I envy people like you that are able to listen to metal just because of the 'feel' factor. Even i listen to metal with a lot of feel..but since i pay attention to other details..i think the feel factor gets reduced a bit.

 

[christian paul]