DENON Owners thread

[spirovious]

My Yamaha RXV 667 lasted for 7 years. Then had to repair it as CPU gone bad due to moisture. If it was in dry climate area, it would have lasted more.

 

[jagmarg]

Could you say all reveivers last 9 years? Speakers do but reveivers dont last more than 3 or 4 years where a very popular moisture induced pcb repair work has been documented by many in this forum itself due to Indian climatic conditions. Plus HDMI boards are the problem child as u have witnessed yourself. It could happen a day after warranty too. 9 years is an outlier case. The possible median and mode of such data distribution available by those who own a receivee would fall at 3 years.

Hmm... I have never had issues with AVRs... ( Used only Denon..3 models) ...all of them have lasted for about 10 yrs without any issues... May be just lucky and Hope it continues...

 

[Vinod.R]

Back to square one again, any AVR with an HDMI board will go kaput easier than their non-HDMI counterparts. There of course, will be exceptions. But generally speaking I am always wary, afraid, sure that any unit with an HDMI board/connector on it is surely prone to failure.

 

[ShaQ.Blogs]

I think

My Yamaha RXV 667 lasted for 7 years. Then had to repair it as CPU gone bad due to moisture. If it was in dry climate area, it would have lasted more.

Good to see other having better life with the AVR. Hope your next one has better life.

Regarding the lower lifespan people have been experiencing, the scientific way to address this would be to find out more info and compare.

1. What protection is being used for the AV receiver?
2. Where is the receiver placed? Closed, semi-closed, fully open.
3. What kind of power anomalies does one face? Power cuts, regular voltage fluctuations, industrial work noise like welding, etc.
4. What kind of weather do they live in - dry or high moisture?
5. Are speakers demanding for power?
6. Do you play at high volumes constantly for long periods?
7. What kind of receiver- low end, mid range, high end? Use a low end receiver with demanding speakers, is inviting trouble.

With this extensive info i feel we can be in a better situation to assess the potential root cause of problems. I suspect, it is not just a case of average life being ~3 years. I know multiple folks for whom it has lasted much longer.
I have had couple of dealers in BLR tell me, with a servo they have faced zero issues! Otherwise, they have had issues.

 

[arnprasad]

My Pioneer 1020K bought from USA runs on a step down transformer..I live in a house with no AC and no dedicated HT room....meaning windows are open 24 hours plus I live in a ground floor house with a large garden...so plenty of vehicular pollution and dust pollution all the time...Never cared to clean them except maybe once a year for Diwali or some other festival. On top of my receiver which has grill for ventilation, I keep Tata sky box or front speaker!!

With all this abuse and say an average daily use of 3 hours...it has lasted 10 plus years and still going strong. Bought the 1700 only for Atmos which I still am yet to experience. My nephew will come in a week or two and we will fix the ceiling speakers.

Right now although I have connected all 7 speakers...when I play Atmos or even True HD downloaded movies....havent seen the display show atmos even once or even true HD. Have to spend more time on the manual..Currently I click on movie on remote and choose 7.1 which I guess is a forceful 7.1 rather than natural 7.1

Hopefully I will have it figured out in the next one month. My Pioneer I remember to be plug and play....although the remote is not working for many years....at least DTS it used to display whenever I played DTS files. the 1700 seems to display DTS ok...not really sure what's up with Atmos and 7.1 Dolby

I use Kodi where I have enabled all options in audio settings including passthrough. When I have multiple audio tracks in the MKV folder...I toggle and even when I choose True HD or atmos I dont see it on the display. Since all the seven speakers are on the ground...cant make out much except sound is coming in all seven of them. Only when I have two in the ceiling can I tell is the Atmos part is working properly or not.

So I have set the input as AUTO on the remote..the yellow button at the bottom and I have selected 7.1 under MOVIE GREEN button and it displays "M IN 7.1 Mplayer". So my understanding is that since I am manually choosing the 7.1 option under Movie..I am using the artificial processing on the AVR rather than using the natually encoded 7.1 audio from the source file. Am I correct in assuming this? Also shouldnt I see Dolby Atmos or TrueHD instead of M in 7.1??

some of the file names of the download media files
TGM_TLR_1_1080p_DTS-HD_MA_51_AC3_51-thedigitaltheater
IndianaJones5_TLR-1_3840x1608_HEVC_444_10bit_DTS-HD_MA_AC3_51-thedigitaltheater
Blade.Runner.2049.2017.PROPER.2160p.US.BluRay.REMUX.HEVC.DTS-HD.MA.TrueHD.7.1.Atmos-FGT
Mission.Impossible.Dead.Reckoning.Part.One.2023.1080p.BluRay.H264-RiSEHD[TGx]
Sound of Metal.2021.1080p.Bluray.DTS-HD.MA.5.1.X264-EVO[TGx]
Gravity.2013.INTERNAL.UHD.DYNAMIC.HDR-X.TrueHD.Atmos.7.1-TEKNO3D
Avatar.The.Way.of.Water.2022.2160p.UHD.Bluray.REMUX.HDR10.HEVC.TrueHD.Atmos.7.1-GHD[TGx]
Mad.Max.Fury.Road.2015.2160p.UHD.BluRay.X265-IAMABLE
The.Dark.Knight.2008.2160p.UHD.BluRay.X265-IAMABLE
Top.Gun.Maverick.2022.IMAX.1080p.Bluray.Atmos.TrueHD.7.1.x264-EVO[TGx]

Need to figure out this ATmos and true HD display issue soon.

Just to clarify...I have subscription to all major OTT platforms...but I prefer to play downloaded files and not rely on internet plus the compressed audio tracks on OTT.

I just hope all of my above questions is due to my ignorance and not because of any issues with the AVR...

And lastly....I used to have 100+ movies saved as I thought someday the pirate sites will disappear...now what they seem to be around forever..I went ahead and deleted all of them except few as listed above. So I click on the left menu of Kodi and say UPDATE LIBRARY. for some reason all the deleted movie names still appear...Tried this many times....any idea why? Its a pain scrolling through hundreds of names..when I only have ten movies left in the folder

 

[arnprasad]

Hi All

I am kind of bored of listening to playlists on different streaming apps and want old school radio with DJs talking nonsense, advertisements and all....Using Tunein Radio on mobile costs me money...but fortunately ..they seem to have an arrangement with Denon..so I am able to play few stations on the HEOS app. However there are some stations which are displayed but not available to play...like Ryan Seacrests weekly top 40 countdown...guessing this is due to country restrictions.

Any idea how I can use some free VPN and make Denon/Heos think I am in USA or Europe?

 

[sidvee]

My 3 year old denon 3700h is not powering on at all, all of a sudden. I watched a movie last week and it worked fine. After that its been powered off and today it wouldn't turn on (changed power cord etc. etc) - I use receivers for max 3-4 hours a week, so this has about 700-800 hours tops. Will give it for repair (I suspect fuse) and if it is a big repair bill will junk it. Question is, is the new 2800h any good? I am realizing that these have become commodity products that we have to replace every 2-3 years, so no point spending huge money. The 2800h is approx. 1 lac, so was thinking just get that and plan to change every 2-3 years. The quality of these is abysmal, the top cover of the 3700h flexes with a little bit of pressure.
Cheers,
Sid

 

[Vinod.R]

My 3 year old denon 3700h is not powering on at all, all of a sudden. I watched a movie last week and it worked fine. After that its been powered off and today it wouldn't turn on (changed power cord etc. etc) - I use receivers for max 3-4 hours a week, so this has about 700-800 hours tops. Will give it for repair (I suspect fuse) and if it is a big repair bill will junk it. Question is, is the new 2800h any good? I am realizing that these have become commodity products that we have to replace every 2-3 years, so no point spending huge money. The 2800h is approx. 1 lac, so was thinking just get that and plan to change every 2-3 years. The quality of these is abysmal, the top cover of the 3700h flexes with a little bit of pressure.
Cheers,
Sid

Don't change AVR if possible, Sid. Could be just fuse in the primary or secondary supply.

 

[sidvee]

Don't change AVR if possible, Sid. Could be just fuse in the primary or secondary supply.

I opened it up, there are 3 fuses visible without dismantling the top boards, all of them are functional with continuity tester. So not sure what the issue is. Anyways will give it to my dealer next week and await his diagnosis. Meanwhile I am stuck over the week end, where I had lined up 2-3 movies, especially since my nephew and niece are visiting, and now they can't watch . I am realizing now, better to keep 2 receivers on hand for such situations. Planning that going forward. Looking at keeping a 1800h type (or some other inexpensive option) available for such type of situations.
Cheers,
Sid

 

[Love4sound]

I opened it up, there are 3 fuses visible without dismantling the top boards, all of them are functional with continuity tester. So not sure what the issue is. Anyways will give it to my dealer next week and await his diagnosis. Meanwhile I am stuck over the week end, where I had lined up 2-3 movies, especially since my nephew and niece are visiting, and now they can't watch . I am realizing now, better to keep 2 receivers on hand for such situations. Planning that going forward. Looking at keeping a 1800h type (or some other inexpensive option) available for such type of situations.
Cheers,
Sid

My friend also had similar issue with his 2400 2 years back and for 6k the power supply board alone was replaced and it’s working fine till date.

 

[bpranay]

I have just started to encounter this problem on my 2600h wherein suddenly the power goes off in Denon then once I switch it off from the mains and switch back on, it works. It happened 2-3 times since last 2 weeks and I am expecting the frequency of these sudden power offs to increase in coming future. I had bought it in November 2019. It’s not even 5 years. My previous Yamaha lasted for about 6 & half years. I guess after this I may have to switch back to Yamaha but considering deals on Yamaha are pretty bad, looks like it’s better to stay with Denon as the deals on Denon far outweighs the functional timeline difference between the two.

 

[sidvee]

Maybe it has something to do with humidity perhaps. Hyderabad has been quite humid last 2-3 weeks. Anyways receivers are definitely going down in quality/reliability as prices keep going up. No choice regardless I guess.
Cheers,
Sid

 

[Vinod.R]

Well guys I have a Marantz 6005 in top condition. Interested? Also an integra ole school strong as a bull PM me if yes. But l would recommend repair and retain anyways.

 

[tapmal5]

My bluetooth wifi lan module for denonx2400 had gone kaput, profx asking 15k for it , any better option.

 

[Harpreet1104]

My bluetooth wifi lan module for denonx2400 had gone kaput, profx asking 15k for it , any better option.

Mine A1500X also gone 2 years ago but am playing it without bluetooth & wifi...... New module they charge for 12k plus GST.

 

[Vinod.R]

Well cheapskate way. buy a Bluetooth module for about Rs 400-1000 bucks attach it à analogue source. Select that particular source and bluetooth it your source and enjoy.

 

[spirovious]

My 3 year old denon 3700h is not powering on at all, all of a sudden.

Can you see standby LED light properly? Sometimes ribbin cable connecting front panala to main board doesn't carry signal and it won't start.

Check remote.
Front panal button

 

[sidvee]

Can you see standby LED light properly? Sometimes ribbin cable connecting front panala to main board doesn't carry signal and it won't start.

Check remote.
Front panal button

Thanks Spiro - even the standby light does not come on. Receiver is completely dead. I suspect power board or some other fuse in the power supply that I cannot access. Will be giving to my dealer service tomorrow, hopefully they can fix it. I have mostly decided on a 2800h if they cannot fix. My plan is it will last 3 years hopefully, and then I can upgrade again to whatever is available at that point.
Cheers,
Sid

 

[rwnano]

Are the current AVR s less robust than AVR s manufactured 20 years ago? I have a distinct impression that electronics used to last longer and was built stronger , earlier? Or am I mistaken

 

[bpranay]

Are the current AVR s less robust than AVR s manufactured 20 years ago? I have a distinct impression that electronics used to last longer and was built stronger , earlier? Or am I mistaken

I am having the same opinion as you. The manufacturers are thinking if the phone worth ₹1L can be changed after every 3 years then why not their AVRs? Hence to keep their production line moving and cash register running, they have adopted this strategy.