Hisense TVs India Price and availability - Blocked by Hisense!

[Rane-2020]

I think we should all wait for few days before judging hisense/toshiba tvs.Let it get launched properly and wait for few days.also comapny is offering 4 years warranty.so lets hope tvs are good.

Also Not everyone can afford to spend 1.5Lac on tv.Also Sony has reduce the price recently.few months the same tv was costing over 1.75lac.I am sure if sony discontinue x950G and launch x950H that tv will be over 1.75lac.

The toshiba tvs are certainly providing best VFM for price.At least on paper. Nothing comes close in terms of specs for 65K for U7980 and 100K for U8080.What other options we have below 1lac.Xiomi or oneplus or iffalcon or tcl or vu.Those tvs are not even close in terms of specs.

We should be glad at least we have FALD and 1000+Nits brightness below 1lac. Few months back it was looking like a distant dream.

Can you get a better tv than these Toshiba tvs sure but you have to spend more for it.I mean Sky is the limit what you can spend on tvs now days.You can get HZ2000 for 6-7+ lacs.You can get sony Z8H and Samsung 8k for 10+lacs.You can even get samsung 292 inch micro-led setup today.Only god knows how much you have to pay for it.I guess more than 1cr.

 

[harryneopotter]

I think we should all wait for few days before judging hisense/toshiba tvs.Let it get launched properly and wait for few days.also comapny is offering 4 years warranty.so lets hope tvs are good.

Also Not everyone can afford to spend 1.5Lac on tv.Also Sony has reduce the price recently.few months the same tv was costing over 1.75lac.I am sure if sony discontinue x950G and launch x950H that tv will be over 1.75lac.

The toshiba tvs are certainly providing best VFM for price.At least on paper. Nothing comes close in terms of specs for 65K for U7980 and 100K for U8080.What other options we have below 1lac.Xiomi or oneplus or iffalcon or tcl or vu.Those tvs are not even close in terms of specs.

We should be glad at least we have FALD and 1000+Nits brightness below 1lac. Few months back it was looking like a distant dream.

Can you get a better tv than these Toshiba tvs sure but you have to spend more for it.I mean Sky is the limit what you can spend on tvs now days.You can get HZ2000 for 6-7+ lacs.You can get sony Z8H and Samsung 8k for 10+lacs.You can even get samsung 292 inch micro-led setup today.Only god knows how much you have to pay for it.I guess more than 1cr.

Samsung The Wall 292 inch was launched for 12cr + taxes in Dec 2019

 

[josedandrew]

Mmm..
A thread supposedly started to discuss hisense tv availability has been turned into sony x950g vs hisense h9g wrestling match. Lol..
As said earlier in my post, the sony x950g is a decent tv.
While samsung decided to reduce the blooming with dimming smaller highlights, sony went the other was and decided to let the blooming happen to do justice to the creators intent, there by avoiding brightness changes in dark scenes.
This meant while watching movies with letterbox bars the blooming spilled over and spoiled the experience as reported by phil Hinton of avforums.
You can only do so much with 50 zones dimming system.
But that is not the point of this post..
The are few FM's who are ready to thrash any tv that's compared to sony x950g.
Saying this tv is crap, that tv is garbage whenever sony x950 is in the mix.
This is when those TVs in question have not been released in india.
I stopped the discussions the moment I started seeing a pattern.
Few of those accounts are also very recent so it could also someone using multiple handles.
The purpose of the forums like these is to provide knowledge and help members to make informed decisions for their av purchases.
I think that purpose is getting defeated.
Thinking if it, it could be simple fanboyism or may be even something deeper.
I am done here. There is more to life than a TV and I dont intent to waste my previous time on mindless mudslinging game.
Thanks.

 

[volksjger]

So you recommend not buying anything if a user wants a 65" TV? I'd much rather buy the U8080 (if it's the H9G) for 98k over the frame for 1.3 lakhs. It's a much better panel with local dimming and 1500 nits brightness v/s 500. I use an HTPC with MadVR so motion and most of the processing is done by the PC. I just need the best panel for the money and at least 3-5 year warranty.

You are just debating for no reason. I do not suggest nor recommend a TV to anyone because, it's upto an individual to buy a TV of his choice. If you like U8080, go ahead and buy it. Nobody is stopping you. The discussion is about, pros and cons of a TV and what you are getting for the money you are paying, in terms of performance as well as product quality and reliability. Which is extremely important.

Btw, you cannot push 4K @ 120hz to your TV without either HDMI 2.1 or eARC or HDMI 2.0b ports.

 

[lightgamer]

You are just debating for no reason. I do not suggest nor recommend a TV to anyone because, it's upto an individual to buy a TV of his choice. If you like U8080, go ahead and buy it. Nobody is stopping you. The discussion is about, pros and cons of a TV and what you are getting for the money you are paying, in terms of performance as well as product quality and reliability. Which is extremely important.

Btw, you cannot push 4K @ 120hz to your TV without either HDMI 2.1 or eARC or HDMI 2.0b ports.

Yeah, I never suggested you could push the TVs to 120Hz with PC. But then again, why would you need to push these to 120Hz when most content you'd watch is 24/30/60Hz. You just need to switch to 24/48Hz on 24fps content and 60 on 60fps content for smooth, judder free motion.

If I want to use the 120Hz panel of the TV, I'll just not use the PC for that content. It's not an either or scenario as I can use a combination of the TV interface, PC and Plex to watch content.

Even without the 120Hz, the motion will be cleaner with PC as MadVR has better frame blending and motion clearing algorithms. Not to mention that NGU sharp is unbeatable in SNR compared to whatever these cheapo SoCs in TVs manage. And MadVR's dynamic tone mapping is excellent too, plus it's programmable to your liking.

Both the U8080(if it's H9G) and the Sony X95G are compromised TVs. The Sony has too few dimming zones for good contrast, is extremely poor value and mediocre blooming prevention and the H9G has reliability concerns and motion has more judder. The H9G has issues with PC as well in which it doesn't take 10-bit input, so I can't use it with PC.

I'm not going to buy either TV. Waiting for the no compromise TV with HDMI 2.1, 1000 nit brightness and mini LED/500+ dimming zones for < 1 lakh for 65".
As I see our current market, I don't see any TV get there. I'll likely just get the 55U7980 for 40-45k to tide me 2-3 years till I get my endgame TV (maybe an 8K OLED will be cheap in 3 years).

 

[volksjger]

Don't want to continue this debate any further. I am ending this here in good faith. I don't intend to offend anyone nor I am recommending Sony X95G to anyone nor Sony is my favourite.

 

[Rajeev-23]

Anyway I'm out from here guys.
Tip: AVS forums is better for tech discussions

Sony OLEDs are too dim for me.
And Panasonic OLEDs aren't available in India and quote me again if you don't have point but still wanna debate.

Tech discussions!!! Lol . What u r doing is not a tech discussion. U r adamant on something and u want to prove Sony is better than any other brand. 950g is better than U8080 even before it’s release. And u r assuming it’s a strip down version of h9g without any proof. As per you the price is not important at all!!! 95k tv is compared with 170k tv... and it’s called tech discussion.and when talking about Q90R u r saying pricing is not right.

 

[Rajeev-23]

Because it's not h9G its a stripped down version.
And I would still say the same. U7QF is crap compared to H9G. And U8080/H9G aren't great compared to sony x95 series.
Why do you get confused with this?

I don’t want U8080 to be better than x95. If U8080 match the performance with 70k price difference then x95 is the worst tv at that price.thats my point!!!

 

[lightgamer]

Dude, I can see the difference on my 768p HP laptop. MadVR ftw! I use it too with MPC, but it's still on default setting.

Yeah, MadVR is really a lifesaver if you consume content over a PC as the upscaling is unreal! If you have a good GPU, I can send you my optimized madVR settings.bin and you can use those settings. Will require at least an RTX 2070(overclocked)/2070 super or GTX 1080ti though.

 

[shield99]

Yeah, MadVR is really a lifesaver if you consume content over a PC as the upscaling is unreal! If you have a good GPU, I can send you my optimized madVR settings.bin and you can use those settings. Will require at least an RTX 2070(overclocked)/2070 super or GTX 1080ti though.

Mind sending me ur MadVr settings?
I currently have the 1650 Super but will be upgrading my entire setup in a month. Just waiting for the Big Navi announcement to see if its AMD or NVIDIA this time around.

 

[lightgamer]

Did you notice the extra soundbar which H9G doesn't have? Don't you think that's a modification?

It's not, it's a simple addition. A modification will be something like changing the display panel, dimensions or other properties, which requires significant re-engineering. Doing all this for a low volume market like India is stupid, so they'll likely just re-use some Hisense panel 100%. If they wanted to cheap out, they could have just used the U8QF or the H8G panel, not made a different panel from scratch.

And H9G doesn't run vida OS.

Again, not a hardware modification. You can make it run android with a firmware update. That's not the kind of modification I was talking about.

There is no 220V H9G anywhere. Actual H9G/Q9G is exclusive for USA and Canada.

Most modern power circuitry can run on 110V and 220V. Not much modification is required there.

It makes the TV to be more similar to q8600 than H9G.

The Q8600 has a completely different design and is a 50Hz panel (motion rate 200Hz) while H9G is 120Hz panel (480Hz motion rate). The U8080 is already mentioned to have a 120Hz native refresh rate, so it's not the Q8600. Let your baseless rumours stop.

Is that really that hard to understand?
Toxic and off topic?
Did I post anything about chemicals and stuff!? Hmm..
I just don't want someone to be as stupid as below.
Do a deep research on how good H9G is and eventually buy u8080 thinking that it's an H9G.

This is what a toxic discussion is. I tried to be civil above and am still not resorting to cheap name-calling here. But continue this and it will get ugly. Go and Google what a toxic discussion is, maybe you'll reflect on yourself.

This TV is likely H9G based on all the facts available, just with a soundbar added to it at the bottom(doesn't require modification). Obviously no one will buy it before confirming, but it does look like it. If you can't even understand this basic logic, I'm done with this discussion. You can assume whatever you want, not that it matters to me.

 

[Infamous]

If you have a good GPU

Thanks but my laptop just has a 940M

 

[lightgamer]

Mind sending me ur MadVr settings?
I currently have the 1650 Super but will be upgrading my entire setup in a month. Just waiting for the Big Navi announcement to see if its AMD or NVIDIA this time around.

Sure, here it is. I have to zip it because otherwise, it's not letting me upload it. One advise, go for Nvidia if you're going to do more than gaming with your GPU. Stuff like MadVR and general windows software works better with CUDA acceleration. NVEnc and NVDec are also better and more stable for video decoding and encoding/transcoding.

 

[harryneopotter]

Yeah, MadVR is really a lifesaver if you consume content over a PC as the upscaling is unreal! If you have a good GPU, I can send you my optimized madVR settings.bin and you can use those settings. Will require at least an RTX 2070(overclocked)/2070 super or GTX 1080ti though.

Any settings for 1060?

 

[Kecha_R]

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[lightgamer]

Any settings for 1060?

You'll not be able to do much here. You can set up HDR tone mapping and maybe set NGU sharp to medium. It will still be a big upgrade over regular image, but not nearly as big as my 2070 super. Here's the link to kodi forums which describes which settings to use. It's a great idea to read the stuff above too where he explains which settings do what and so on. As you can see after you read the entire comment, he has given medium and high settings (high are for a 1080 ti class GPU and medium for 1050 ti). If you overclock your 1060, you can start with the 1050 ti settings and then slowly up the chroma and luma from there. I generally go for NGU sharp over NGU anti-alias, but it's a preference if you prefer a sharper, cleaner image with more artifacts (NGU sharp) or slightly softer image with no artifacts (NGU anti-alias). For high bitrate 1080p or higher videos, NGU sharp has better SNR.

Take your time and understand how it works. It's a one-time effort which will require several hours, but it's worth it. When you get a newer GPU, just up the settings. If you are serious about A/V, I highly recommend upgrading to a 3060/3060ti when it launches. You'll be able to do much more with it, and a 3060 should be on par with my 2070 super which can max out all the settings here (even higher than the high 1080 ti settings he displayed here).

 

[harryneopotter]

You'll not be able to do much here. You can set up HDR tone mapping and maybe set NGU sharp to medium. It will still be a big upgrade over regular image, but not nearly as big as my 2070 super. Here's the link to kodi forums which describes which settings to use. It's a great idea to read the stuff above too where he explains which settings do what and so on. As you can see after you read the entire comment, he has given medium and high settings (high are for a 1080 ti class GPU and medium for 1050 ti). If you overclock your 1060, you can start with the 1050 ti settings and then slowly up the chroma and luma from there. I generally go for NGU sharp over NGU anti-alias, but it's a preference if you prefer a sharper, cleaner image with more artifacts (NGU sharp) or slightly softer image with no artifacts (NGU anti-alias). For high bitrate 1080p or higher videos, NGU sharp has better SNR.

Take your time and understand how it works. It's a one-time effort which will require several hours, but it's worth it. When you get a newer GPU, just up the settings. If you are serious about A/V, I highly recommend upgrading to a 3060/3060ti when it launches. You'll be able to do much more with it, and a 3060 should be on par with my 2070 super which can max out all the settings here (even higher than the high 1080 ti settings he displayed here).

Thank you so much for the detailed reply. I will surely read through all this and see what I can make of it. However, upgrading gpu is not possible as it's a laptop and I don't use it much. Hence planning to use it for playing media from hard drive to the TV. Let's see how it goes.

 

[etios]

This thread is about Hisense/Toshiba India TV's and price but it is taken over by a couple of trolls who are marketing mediocre Sony TV's which costs 50 per cent more. I think Mods should come in and get the thread back on-topic.

 

[shield99]

Sure, here it is. I have to zip it because otherwise, it's not letting me upload it. One advise, go for Nvidia if you're going to do more than gaming with your GPU. Stuff like MadVR and general windows software works better with CUDA acceleration. NVEnc and NVDec are also better and more stable for video decoding and encoding/transcoding.

Thanx for this

I rarely game on the PC anymore, maybe an occasional RTS but that's about it. Switched to a console and never looked back. Ill probably stick to NVIDIA for my next upgrade.
The media center just has a second line connected to my C9. Will use these settings and see how it turns out.

 

[lightgamer]

Sorry, My bad. I have got the model numbers wrong in the past. its not Q8600, I was actually referring to UQ8F which was released in UK and EUROPE.
and sorry to burst your bubble U8080 is a 100% downgraded/stripped version.
it doesn't have native 120hz panel unlike H9G. it has 50hz panel with motion rate 200

Exactly my point on why it can't be U8080. The U8080 is already confirmed to be a 120Hz panel.

Also, here's the U8QF from the back:


Here's the U8080: