Orthodynamic Headphones & all things planar

I am really liking the 50s. Though listening through my laptop's headphone out. Some songs sound terrible as the recording is poor, I realized it today. Didn't compare with hd650 as yet. I am switching with hp 9000 from philips and it too sounds quite good.
 
Glad that you are enjoying them but from a laptop, seriously ?
They need a good amp to show what they are capable of.
 
@kittu1977 - Will do, but I thought I would try my luck here since a majority of the members here don't know use headphones and few would have heard of Yamaha headphones from the 1980s ! :p

@anm - Both orthodynamic headphones I have are harder to drive than the HD650. They sounded rather ordinary with either my Bravo tube amp or with my Taurus T100 headphone amp. I cant imagine listening to them via a laptop out ! :p

@gurubhai - I love the YH-100. My senns seem so veiled in comparison. The first thing that hits you with the YH-100 is that its just so balanced. Everything sounds just right without any over emphasis on any part of the audio spectrum. Mids, highs, bass all sound just right. With the HP2s I sometimes add a little more bass boost and with the HD650 I add a little treble boost. But with the YH-100s I dont even feel the need for any EQ.

The treble is also not as sharp as the HP2 and more easy to listen to.

On first listen I was like, where is the bass ? Then I realized that there is no mid bass hump that is present in the HD650. It reaches really low unlike the HP2s but there is no overemphasis on bass and the drivers are well damped so the bass is very tight with very little decay making it great for rock music.

The fit is a bit of an issue though as I can seem to get much of a clamping force. And there is also a slight sibilance issue. However I toned down the 10 hz band again a tad and its no longer an issue.

I dont know how much tuning dbel84 must have done to get everything so balanced but it surely must have taken a long time !

I need to upgrade my DAC and amp for these headphones as I feel I am holding them back a bit. Damm this is an expensive hobby. :sad:
 
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On first listen I was like, where is the bass ? Then I realized that there is no mid bass hump that is present in the HD650. It reaches really low unlike the HP2s but there is no overemphasis on bass and the drivers are well damped so the bass is very tight with very little decay making it great for rock music.

It is that linear bass right upto the last lowermost octave that is so rare in headphone world. Infact, the stock yammies have that mid bass hump too. It really requires some skilled modding to control that mid-bass hump (A stock HP50 & I believe the YH-100 are even bassier than the denons)

The fit is a bit of an issue though as I can seem to get much of a clamping force. And there is also a slight sibilance issue. However I toned down the 10 hz band again a tad and its no longer an issue
Leave the headphones on a big DVD pack about the size of your head &it should get comfy in a few days.
As for your sibilance issue, I think its your gear's sound coming through.
dbel84 owns some of the best source/amps & I am sure that he would have tuned these to be as neutral as possible.

The treble is also not as sharp as the HP2 and more easy to listen to.
The YH-2 that I have offered for tour has been modded to have a much more balanced treble. If you want I can include you in the loaner, but in return you would have to write a detailed 3 way showdown review of these cans. ;)
 
@gurubhai, kindly include me in the loaner program.
regarding using laptop out, I couldn't go out of bedroom, and the stereo setup is in living room, that I am not willing to move to bedroom.
Hoping new amp will resolve this issue.
Guru - any updates? I am now getting impatient :)
 
^^you can pick these up before I send these or just wait till they come back to me.

About the amp, I have mailed Jeff Rosel from Glassjar audio & am waiting for his reply.
 
The YH-2 that I have offered for tour has been modded to have a much more balanced treble. If you want I can include you in the loaner, but in return you would have to write a detailed 3 way showdown review of these cans. ;)

How can I turn down such an offer ? :licklips:

Please add my name to the list. Will try and do justice with a 3 way comparison. :D

@anm - I cant let them out of my sight. Now that the HD650 is in a lower league than the YH100 I get separation pangs every-time I swap headphones. :sad:

If you find yourself in Mumbai anytime you are most welcome to come over for a listen. :)
 
OK, So the final Tour participant list :

1) iaudio

2) rallynut

3) rajapraveen80

4) Brendon

Each of you please pm me your details/address so that we can go ahead with the loaner.
 
the custom plug on 50s doesn't work with lyrita's out. that is surprising because every other headphone plug fits into lyrita.
 
^^ Ya, that European plug is an odd one. Lyrita won't be able to drive it anyway, what about your HK amp.


I have received the addresses from all participants except rajapraveen80.
Anyway, the plan is to send the YH-2 to Brendon first, for no reason other than that he is the closest from my place & then he can ship these to the next person.

BTW, the YH-2 seems to be getting really costly these days ..
MINT RARE YAMAHA YH-2 Orthodynamic Stereo Headphones - eBay (item 250671629785 end time Aug-23-10 05:50:20 PDT)
 
Anyway, the plan is to send the YH-2 to Brendon first, for no reason other than that he is the closest from my place & then he can ship these to the next person.

Yeeesssss !!! :yahoo:

Dont worry guys, I will not keep it for very long. Will do the comparison and send it to rajapraveen80 next since he is the next nearest person to me in Chennai. Rallynut and iAudio are next door in Kerala so they are last ! :)

Btw. Was doing some testing with the YH-100 a few days back and I found out that it was the only headphone I had with which I could easily hear a 20hz tone at normal listening volume. I get zilch with either the HP2 or the HD650. With the HD650 I can hear/feel the 20 hz tone only if I turn the volume to waay above normal volume levels. :)
 
^^Hey, don't decide it all by yourself. Let the others chip in, lest they complain against me.

Yep, 20 hz is a tough test for most headphones. My yamaha HP50 & NAD are able to manage that easily though you need some good mass dampening of cups to keep the nasty resonances away.
 
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Ok ok, Ill let the guys decide. :)

So what mods have you done so far for the NAD ? It was in stock condition when you got them right ?
 
Yes, It was stock.

The NAD are pretty well balanced as it is. I have tried some dampening schemes but haven't settled on anything yet. Infact right now, I am using them without any dampening ( I have removed even the stock yellow absorptive pads), just added some mass dampening to the cups.
Also, I am using Stax SR-X pads with them which improves the treble.

It is rather rare to find NAD RP18s which are so balanced from the outset, only 2 pairs of these mylar driver NADs has been reported as of yet.
 
Wow ! Only two pairs ? And one of them found its way to you. You got real lucky. :)

Btw Faheem, Gannu and a few others from TE came to my house to check out the YH-100s and the D2000s today. Even though the YH-100s were driven by my el cheapo Audio-GD compass, they all concluded that it was an amazing headphone and better than the D2000 easily.

However now I have to spend another few $$$ to upgrade my DAC and amp to match the YH-100s. Sigh !
 
Ya, pretty lucky. :)

I never had any doubts that your YH-100 was better than D2k. As I said in TE forum, even the D7k would find it difficult to compete with these.
Mumbai ortho HQ is working full swing, well done. :clapping:

As for source/ Amp, I just can't wait to get my EHHA running. Jeff just informed me that he is shipping the PCBs & other parts so hopefully I won't have to wait much longer.
 
The loaner program is officially in motion now.

Brendon received the Yamaha YH-2 today & hopefully would be posting his impressions very soon.
 
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