Panasonic VT20 Owners Thread

[Radni14]

From which city you wanna buy it ?

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I want to buy from Ahmedabad .

 

[khoj]

Since this thread is meant for post purchase queries and experiences, I have responded to your query in the thread meant for new proposed purchases/offers etc

http://www.hifivision.com/televisio...ccross-india-hyderabad-80k-43.html#post310055

Please continue with similar queries / posts in the above thread.

Hi ,
I am looking to buy one 50 inch Panasonic plasma TV . I am confused about VT20 and VT 20D nomenclature. Are these two different models ? Which one is better or more advanced and what are good price ( range ) ? I am in Ahmedabad , and I get price of Rs. 1.06 lac for 50VT 20 . I find here in the forum price range of 75 k for this model . I am confused and cannot make a buy decision.
Can you guys as owners of 50 VT20 , guide me and give me link to buy this tv at good price ?
Thanks

 

[emailnagpal]

Can I run internet on VT20 via Tata Photon+ plugged into the USB ?

 

[prankey]

Can I run internet on VT20 via Tata Photon+ plugged into the USB ?

No you can't. It needs drivers and dial in support from an OS which is not possible from any of the current TVs.

But you could plug into a laptop or a Chinese tablet which support such dongles and use its ethernet port by configuring the Notebook or Tablet as a router.

 

[emailnagpal]

No you can't. It needs drivers and dial in support from an OS which is not possible from any of the current TVs.

But you could plug into a laptop or a Chinese tablet which support such dongles and use its ethernet port by configuring the Notebook or Tablet as a router.

It doesn't require any drivers or dialing when I use it on my HP Dreamscreen, Just plug and I am connected to net... Thats why thought it might be possible. Anyway, will do it through my broadband only.

Wanted to know one more thing : In case there is a power failure during firmware update then what happens ???

Will a 600 VA UPS be enough for 50VT20 ?

 

[emailnagpal]

Sorry wrong post.

 

[prankey]

It doesn't require any drivers or dialing when I use it on my HP Dreamscreen, Just plug and I am connected to net... Thats why thought it might be possible. Anyway, will do it through my broadband only.

Wanted to know one more thing : In case there is a power failure during firmware update then what happens ???

Will a 600 VA UPS be enough for 50VT20 ?

Unless VT20 backs up firmware to recover from such failures, the TV will most probably need service in such situation.

600VA UPS might not be sufficient especially to cold start the TV (switching on the TV when running in Battery - you could test it to check). 1kVA or even 800VA ones should work fine.

 

[khoj]

Looks like the VT has reached HP. Which store, what price and what mode of transport did you finally use?

If used for the tv alone the 600VA should suffice. BTW if you have an inverter at home check if it has a UPS mode. If yes just shift the switch from inverter to UPS and you will be good to go and no need to get an independent UPS. This allows for a faster changeover and the PDP does not trip as it does on the inverter mode.

Will a 600 VA UPS be enough for 50VT20 ?

 

[TheSeeker]

(thought of posting the update here) i talked to croma guys y'day at my place, from where i got my TV. i told them about the 'extended warranty card' by panasonic. they didnt know it. i showed them a copy of the card shared here with us by satan on pg #56, and after a few moments of their discussion amongst themselves, i was told that they would get the card for me within 4-5 days and will let me know.

thanks again, khoj and satan !!

@ khoj - dropping my earlier plans of getting a line-interactive solution for whole set-up, am now thinking of getting a UPS just for the TV alone. you wrote above that 600VA should suffice. could you please tell us any other thing we should look for in this segment, and preferred brand ? thanks !

 

[satan]

@TheSeeker
Glad you got the warranty card issue sorted out.

I have a 500VA APC that doesn't work with this TV. You might want to ask someone to check it with your equipment before you buy it.

Since my inverter doesn't changeover in time, I'm looking to get a smaller UPS (the computer ones) that can help only during the change over from main power to the inverter.

Try the APC 650VA. It should work.

I'm curious about what kind of UPS's you guys are getting (Capacity, Battery, Price etc). A new thread for it?


@emailnagpal
The reason your TV is able to connect to the internet via your HP PC is because the Ethernet Controller is probably set to ICS (Internet Connection Sharing).

 

[TheSeeker]

@ satan - i talked to baijuxaviour. he said i can have a 600/650VA, or better, 1KVA line-interactive UPS with INTERNAL battery for the TV. he's running his whole set-up on an EXTERNAL battery UPS (1.2KVA) which he got for 11k. the internal battery one would cost around 3-4k, but back-up time wont be much, and you wont be able to add batteries in future. ebay lists couple of them.

 

[khoj]

My design preference for the UPS is that it should have a 'Pure Sine wave Output' and not quasi sine/square wave form outputs.

The most important factor however is that one should always buy both the UPS+battery and the inverter+battery from the same source. This helps the user/owner eliminate 'pointing the finger syndrome' which vendors of individual components of a given combo develop in case of anything going haywire.

As for the brand my experience for the same is limited to 'Elnova' UPS Manufacturer, UPS Systems, UPS Power Supply, Indian UPS Exporter, UPS Distributor, UPS Supplier, Power Supply Manufacturer coupled with Sealed Maintenance Free batteries of 'Komatsoo' make Sealed Maintenance Free Batteries, SMF Batteries Manufacurer, Indian SMF Battery Supplier also sold by Elnova & 'Quanta' batteries made by the people who make Amaron batteries. Mind you these are used in my offices and only untill the generators kick in.

At home (read for the PDP) I always prefer an inverter and that again has to have a pure Sine wave output and SMF batteries only. The wet batteries have no business whatsoever inside anyone's premises.

For me it does not make sense to have an independent UPS for the PDP alone unless one already exists with you. The price involvement for a new purchase is not low and by spending a little bit more one can cover the entire house. It will not be a pleasant experience to watch tv while sweat drips allover as the fans are not running besides one can find better use for the floorspace that the UPS would take up in the room. Last but not the least a UPS will provide only a few minutes of backup whereas the inverter from it's remote location will provide backup for the entire duration of the power cut.

Do note that inverter must have a UPS mode on the output which essentially reduces the switchover time and does not let the PDP trip during the changeover. Allmost all current models of Sine wave output inverters have the UPS switchover mode built in. I use a Sine wave output Sukam inverter Power Solutions :: Home Solutions :: Home-UPS-(Pure-Sine-Wave) :: Su-kam :: Ek nayi soch coupled to Sukam make SMF batteries at one location as also a Xenon(Amaron) inverter + SMF battery combination at another location. Power back-up for home, office ? Inverter, Pure Sine wave UPS The decision making factor being the local support for a given make in a given location.

 

[satan]

Simple Question

Why do these inverters have a UPS mode? If they can support fast switch-overs, what is the point is allowing that to be an option that can be turned on only when necessary instead of being default.

I'm sure I'm missing something here.

 

[prankey]

Simple Question

Why do these inverters have a UPS mode? If they can support fast switch-overs, what is the point is allowing that to be an option that can be turned on only when necessary instead of being default.

I'm sure I'm missing something here.

Its basically there to restrict pass through voltage range from a wider 100-270V to 180-240V (approx.). Any voltage outside this range will switch over to battery backup. Switchover time is essentially identical but would practically become more sensitive and faster in UPS mode (due to narrow voltage range - when power loss happens through a rapid voltage drop to 0V).

 

[TheSeeker]

i too have a su-kam inverter at home. need to check whether it has the UPS switch-over mode.

 

[pannags]

For me it does not make sense to have an independent UPS for the PDP alone unless one already exists with you. The price involvement for a new purchase is not low and by spending a little bit more one can cover the entire house. It will not be a pleasant experience to watch tv while sweat drips allover as the fans are not running besides one can find better use for the floorspace that the UPS would take up in the room. Last but not the least a UPS will provide only a few minutes of backup whereas the inverter from it's remote location will provide backup for the entire duration of the power cut.

Thanks for the informative-yet-short post. I live in an apartment complex that provides a 1KVA generator backup, albeit with a 15-30 second delay after a power cut. The delay is introduced by design to eliminate unnecessary switch-overs for short outages.
I have gathered that the best thing for me would be a pure sine wave UPS with a backup time of 5-10 mins that can essentially drive my 42GT20 PDP, STB and the Onkyo 608 AVR. Considering the power factor, I have arrived at a 1.2 KVA rating for my setup.

Does this sound like a good proposition?

Note: I know I'm a bit off-topic, but hopefully this helps other PDP owners who have a similar situation with a decision.

 

[khoj]

Thanks for the informative-yet-short post. I live in an apartment complex that provides a 1KVA generator backup, ....
.... Considering the power factor, I have arrived at a 1.2 KVA rating for my setup.

Does this sound like a good proposition?

Note: I know I'm a bit off-topic, but hopefully this helps other PDP owners who have a similar situation with a decision.

OT ? not at all and yes your scenario is a perfect fit for a UPS.

For anyone who needs to know the Wattage value is 3/4th of the VA rating. So a 600 VA UPS will give an output of 600 x 3 / 4 = 450W so on and so forth.

 

[prankey]

Thanks for the informative-yet-short post. I live in an apartment complex that provides a 1KVA generator backup, albeit with a 15-30 second delay after a power cut. The delay is introduced by design to eliminate unnecessary switch-overs for short outages.
I have gathered that the best thing for me would be a pure sine wave UPS with a backup time of 5-10 mins that can essentially drive my 42GT20 PDP, STB and the Onkyo 608 AVR. Considering the power factor, I have arrived at a 1.2 KVA rating for my setup.

Does this sound like a good proposition?

Note: I know I'm a bit off-topic, but hopefully this helps other PDP owners who have a similar situation with a decision.

I would strongly suggest going for a pure sine wave UPS (I can share few contacts to get best brands at best pricing) 1.4kVA which can give utility supply to your entire household excluding 15Amp connections. I have the same setup working great since more than 3 years now and has never had any difficulty with backup even with hours of outage (at my premises, generator runs only during 6PM to 11PM window). You could get a 42AH SMF batteries though 100AH tubular ones are best suited and usually give hours (once got more than 20 hours during a transformer failure powering small utility loads and occasional TV viewing on my 32"LCD TV with AVR setup). You would need 2x external batteries for this setup and it should be much more useful to internal battery UPS's though these Home UPS ones do not have a voltage regulator inbuilt.

You are welcome to check this setup working at my premises anytime

 

[emailnagpal]

Looks like the VT has reached HP. Which store, what price and what mode of transport did you finally use?

If used for the tv alone the 600VA should suffice. BTW if you have an inverter at home check if it has a UPS mode. If yes just shift the switch from inverter to UPS and you will be good to go and no need to get an independent UPS. This allows for a faster changeover and the PDP does not trip as it does on the inverter mode.

Yes bro, VT has finally reached HP. Bought it from Croma, Janak Puri, Delhi for 71k. It was transported from Delhi to HP on a Toyota Innova. Also, mentioned in the thread started by me for selecting a TV and thanking all the members including you :- http://www.hifivision.com/television/16358-help-required-buying-42-tv-13.html

I want to use a my 600VA desktop UPS or as advised by u my home 800VA invertor in UPS mode, just while upgrading to the new firmware to avoid the risk of power failure while updating. What will be better ?

Or should I use the 600 VA UPS plugged into the socket supplied power by the 800 VA home Invertor/UPS to be doubly sure

 

[emailnagpal]

Simple Question

Why do these inverters have a UPS mode? If they can support fast switch-overs, what is the point is allowing that to be an option that can be turned on only when necessary instead of being default.

I'm sure I'm missing something here.

There is one more reason for it :

In most of the states in India, VAT (Value Added Tax) on a UPS is 4 or 5 % but on inverter it is either 12.5 or 13.75%. Thus, in order to save tax and bill inverters at a lower tax rate, companies provide a UPS mode on it. :lol: