Panasonic VT20 Owners Thread

[som1]

Thank You .. You may find the post with pricing /cost details here

congrads som1...please share the details of price, dealer and freebies u got with this offer

 

[som1]

Yeah Kittu I did run the slides for 12 hours :sad: did i do anything wrong ??

Yes the TV was really close to the wall ... more than the rear side i noticed the front of the panel was hot...

Please suggest ...

Did you run the slides for 12 hours ?

Did you keep the tv too close to the wall ?

My tv is on about 7-8 hours daily , before turning it off I check the back of the panel and no heat noticed.

 

[Kittu]

Who told you to run the slides for so long ? Did you find any online link saying that?

The break-in slides are run in between long viewing sessions for 5 to 10 mins. Not for 12 hours.............You already used up few months of panel life .....

 

[som1]

Ohh this is the thing i was fearing the most ... comitting a mistake ... anyway Now please tell me the way to go forward ..

Then when they say that the breaking period is 100-200 hours how exactly does one reach the slated hours ... if we play the slides for 5-10 minutes in a go.

thanks for the info though ...

Who told you to run the slides for so long ? Did you find any online link saying that?

The break-in slides are run in between long viewing sessions for 5 to 10 mins. Not for 12 hours.............You already used up few months of panel life .....

 

[BLASTO]

Ohh this is the thing i was fearing the most ... comitting a mistake ... anyway Now please tell me the way to go forward ..

Then when they say that the breaking period is 100-200 hours how exactly does one reach the slated hours ... if we play the slides for 5-10 minutes in a go.

thanks for the info though ...

Lol.. kittu is ragging you..
You dont need any specific procedure for break in.
Keep all settings at 50% or less and avoid black bar content (use zoom 1) and you are good to go.

 

[BLASTO]

I have gotten rid of green/yellow cast completely after holding the remote for 2 hours..
pink us skin colours and brown indian skin colours like my earlier plasma now.
Issue is, the green/yellow cast is not specific to SD. It was present in HD too, only less noticiable.

Will post the procedure shortly.

 

[devh5]

Lol.. kittu is ragging you..
You dont need any specific procedure for break in.
Keep all settings at 50% or less and avoid black bar content (use zoom 1) and you are good to go.

i have not used break in slides at all. i am keeping it in satan settings. not using black bars, even if it is, not keeping more than 5 min at a stretch. viewing channels at full screen mode(horrified to look at faces from hindi soaps on the screen in zoom mode). changing channels once in at least 5 to 10 min(hosewives watch 5 soaps at a time always, so no problem with viewing same channel logo at a stretch). No IR so far. usage time 124 hrs:clapping:. only thing i need is more hd channels.:sad:

 

[Kittu]

Much awaited.

 

[som1]

Hahahah... if true then that was a good one ...

@BLASTO : So sud i continue to play the slides for the remaining hours without interruption ??

If not sud i folllow satan's setting in first post ?

What is meant by black bar content ??

I am a bit too confused ..

@kittu : I got this link

Rgds,
Som

 

[Kittu]

Ragging part was only till "using up panel life" , do not run slides for 12 hours.

 

[som1]

Now What

Much awaited.

 

[satan]

Who told you to run the slides for so long ? Did you find any online link saying that?

The break-in slides are run in between long viewing sessions for 5 to 10 mins. Not for 12 hours.............You already used up few months of panel life .....

Lol.. kittu is ragging you..
You dont need any specific procedure for break in.
Keep all settings at 50% or less and avoid black bar content (use zoom 1) and you are good to go.

Guys, I beg to differ on this.

The reason people run slides is to uniformly stress the individual pixels of their PDPs. This is done primarily to acheive the best and most uniform picture quality across the entire panel. There are a lot of different opinions about breaking in a PDP across the internet but the common practice among the "purists", so to speak, is running slides for the first 200 hours. Most of them run it continuosly till they reach the 200 hour mark with a few hours of rest here and there. The reason we don't hear about this practice much here in India is primarily due to power cuts.

Again, there are 2 ways of doing it if you are running slides

Torch Mode: All the settings are high (contrast & brightness) and the PDP is left running ONLY slides for the first 100 hours. This accomplishes the goal of breaking in the TV faster as you stress the pixels more during the first 100 hours. The downside is that if the TV for some reason is accidentally left with some static content on it, you will almost definitely see burn in.

Relaxed Mode: Leave the TV running with slides for the first 200 hours using mild settings (Contrast & Brightness under 50). This reduces the risk of burn-in should any static content get stuck on the screen while you are away.

I have run slides on my TV for the most part of last week with very, very litte actual usage. I have almost completed my 200 hours. There is a definite improvement in resisting IR now compared to when I first got the unit last week.

 

[satan]

I have a small doubt ... Its been 12 hours i had kept my TV "ON" for the breaking in process.

When i came home and saw the whole unit and its surrounding areas were really very warm and the TV HOT ...

Is it advisable to keep the TV "ON" for so long hours .. considering i have I planning to keep it ON for the whole 150-200 hours ..

As of now i have since last half hour switched it OFF

The resumption of my process will depend on YOUR answer )

rgds,
Som

PDPs always run hot. Afterall the display contains electrically charged ionized gases. How hot the display runs, depends on your settings. The higher the contrast / brightness, the hotter it is.

Just leave a fan / AC on and you will be set, although on lower settings, like the ones mentioned in this thread, it won't run very hot. Warm is more like it.

Another thing that some of you might not be aware off, is setting Picture Profiles / Modes. When you select a Picture profile, that selection is limited only to the input source that you made the selection from. So if you changed the profile from Normal to Professional1 on AV1, then that change is reflected only on AV1. If you goto AV2, you will notice that the Picture Profile is back at Normal. You will have to change the Picture Profile normally for every Input.

The reason i'm mentioning this is so that you don't accidentally switch inputs and end up running on a higher setting, especially during your break-in period.

 

[som1]

Satan thanks for the info on the Torch mode .. I will be using the Relax mode as i was using the mode as suggested in D-nice's guide (first post).

Guys, I beg to differ on this.

The reason people run slides is to uniformly stress the individual pixels of their PDPs. This is done primarily to acheive the best and most uniform picture quality across the entire panel. There are a lot of different opinions about breaking in a PDP across the internet but the common practice among the "purists", so to speak, is running slides for the first 200 hours. Most of them run it continuosly till they reach the 200 hour mark with a few hours of rest here and there. The reason we don't hear about this practice much here in India is primarily due to power cuts.

Again, there are 2 ways of doing it if you are running slides

Torch Mode: All the settings are high (contrast & brightness) and the PDP is left running ONLY slides for the first 100 hours. This accomplishes the goal of breaking in the TV faster as you stress the pixels more during the first 100 hours. The downside is that if the TV for some reason is accidentally left with some static content on it, you will almost definitely see burn in.

Relaxed Mode: Leave the TV running with slides for the first 200 hours using mild settings (Contrast & Brightness under 50). This reduces the risk of burn-in should any static content get stuck on the screen while you are away.

I have run slides on my TV for the most part of last week with very, very litte actual usage. I have almost completed my 200 hours. There is a definite improvement in resisting IR now compared to when I first got the unit last week.

 

[satan]

Satan thanks for the info on the Torch mode .. I will be using the Relax mode as i was using the mode as suggested in D-nice's guide (first post).

Som, D-Nice's guide IS TORCH MODE!

That's why he asks you to run it for only 100 hours as opposed to 200. If you ask me, do a little bit of everything. Torch, when you are around at home. Relaxed, when you are away.

I did it the same way and my VT20 is just getting better by the day

 

[andre19]

hey guys
little off topic
can i use joined movies to break in my plasma tv?? my friend has joined several 1080p movies,20 hours long. can i use this to break in my plasma or should i follow those slides which contain a single colour per slide??

thanks

 

[BLASTO]

Best way to breakin the plasma is to run in TV mode without any connection (white and black) dots. All settings at 50.

 

[BLASTO]

Removing the Green/Yellow cast issue.

You will need both professional1 and professional2 modes for this.

Before you start:

1) Go to a HD channel which focuses on people. StarPlus HD running saas bahu serial for example.
2) Go to both prof1 and prof2 modes, scroll down to the last and select "restore to default".
3) Go to advanced settings in both prof1 and prof2 and verify if everything is in the middle for white balance, colour settings and gamma is at 2.2.

Procedure:

At this point, both prof1 and prof2 should be same in PQ. We are gonna keep prof 2 reference only to see where we started and where we ended up.

4) Go to prof1->advanced settings->white balance.
5) Reduce the below to the left most possible from the middle (Suppress your instinct that it is bad)

R-Gain, G-Gain, R-Cutoff, G-Cutoff => Everything to left most without mercy.

6) At this point, you will be greeted by the purest white with blue tint like in the LEDs
7) Just increase all the above by 3 points at a time and check out the skin colour. (For me it worked out in first attempt)
So my setting for R-Gain, G-Gain, R-Cutoff, G-Cutoff everything is just 3 points from the left.
You might like something between 3 and 6.

8) Go to gamma settings and select S-Curve
9) Go to main menu and select

Colour => 45 (up from 36 in first post to compensate)
Brightness => -5

Now switch between prof1 and prof2(reference) and see the magic.
You will notice very clear difference in presentation of colours in areas other than face also. Whenever you have a doubt, compare with the prof2.

Now change to a SD channel and check the overall quality.
Except for the upscaling defects, the PQ looks much better.
Later you can thank me..

 

[som1]

Tell me one thing why doesnt Panasonic or for that matter a manufacturer do the "breaking in " and gives to us ??

And if the manufacturers are aware of this thing then why are these things not mentioned in the manual ??

may be a noob question ...

 

[satan]

Tell me one thing why doesnt Panasonic or for that matter a manufacturer do the "breaking in " and gives to us ??

And if the manufacturers are aware of this thing then why are these things not mentioned in the manual ??

may be a noob question ...

That's a great question and one that I have been wondering about for a long time. I guess it's just a matter of convenience. It's not a very practical thing to do at the production line. Think about it in terms of costing for Panasonic. Breaking-in a single TV for almost 200 hours is a huge task which is definitely more than the time it takes to manufacture one TV. That being said I wonder if there is some was for them to accelerate the aging of the pixel to 200 hours in a factory environment.

About it not being in the manual, most consumers would not care too much for a product that requires you to nurse it! Sometimes more information can be bad for business.