bhaskarcan
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"Yaadon Ki Baarat" earlier pressing records are available at Wellington for 300/400Rs in NM condition. Go for that. Buying the latest "digitally remastered" version from FK is waste of money IMO.
Regards,
Bhaskar
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"Yaadon Ki Baarat" earlier pressing records are available at Wellington for 300/400Rs in NM condition. Go for that. Buying the latest "digitally remastered" version from FK is waste of money IMO.
Regards,
Bhaskar
bhaskarcan
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Was referring to the pseudo stereo effect and not the music. The music on this album is legendary. I once watched an RDB tribute on Times Now where they mentioned that he brilliantly experimented with some stereo effects in recordings (they were referring to this one)hyeah: which in my opinion was a dumb idea, courtesy RDB.
This 'pseudo' Stereo effect was called "Electronically reprocessed for Stereo" and was an idea of the music company i.e. GCI and not RD's. RD originally recorded them in MONO. But the blunder was done by the mastering engineers. One may like to listen to the 45RPM EP's to get to know what exactly Pancham recorded. They are pure Mono records with all the musical galore. Listen to the tracks "lekar hum diwana dil" and "aap ke kamre mein" on the small records. They are as good as any stereo recording sound effect wise.
Not only YKB, there are lot other popular film ost's which were destroyed by this "electronically...Stereo" conversion. 'Abhiman'(SDB), 'Jheel Ke Us Paar'(RDB), 'Bobby'(LP),'Mera Naam Joker'(SJ) are the few names that come to mind at this point. And they are all from different music composers. The small Mono records are the saviors in these cases.
Regards,
Bhaskar
souravin
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Electronic Reprocessed Stereo LPs killed the beauty of the songs to some extent in YKB. Mono switch in amplifier makes these slightly better. Mono EP records are pure bliss this case.
bhaskarcan
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We had a proper 'Stereo' recorded OST in 1970 for the film 'Jal Bin Machhli Nritya Bin Bijli'. I wonder then, why people opted for this reprocessed stereo. Specially RK, who supposed to prefer quality over quantity(for argument's sake, supposing true stereo cost more those days).
Okay I will then not order from FK. Also let me know whenever you will go next to Wellington, I might accompany you if that is fine with you
Btw, The Finest Moments LP of Kishore from FK says digitally remastered? Is that also not worth purchasing?
Hi Bhaskarcan
I do not think it would have been the cost. Maybe Shantaram studio had that facility and did not make it available to others. I can't think of any other reason. Also weren't a few classical titles in stereo in the late 60s? Wonder how they got it done? If classical titles could afford it I am sure film producers could
I do not think it would have been the cost. Maybe Shantaram studio had that facility and did not make it available to others. I can't think of any other reason. Also weren't a few classical titles in stereo in the late 60s? Wonder how they got it done? If classical titles could afford it I am sure film producers could
reubensm
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Overall its funny how the media can mis-represent facts. They attributed this pseudo stereo effect to RDB. I am fully sure that the Music Directors of those days were seen as super stars and often paid more than the Hero (example Shankar Jaikishen) and hence had significant control over how their output was presented in the movie and on record. Its hard to believe that the producers had a say in the mixing of the sound track. Having said that, RDB is a suspect as he pioneered things that the other music directors did not. However they often copied him. Imagine someone gargling on the soundtrack of Satte Pe Satta, no body on earth could have thought of something so scary-sounding as that.
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The Greats...
Mint condition records and simply amazing!
Mint condition records and simply amazing!
Hi Reubensm
The pseudo stereo was created by passing the sound through a long tunnel like pipe and capturing it on the other end. I really don't know how that works but this is from the guys who used to do this. I had spoken to them once to understand what reprocessed stereo was. I don't know if this was their own indigenous way of doing it or it was an accepted norm worldwide
The pseudo stereo was created by passing the sound through a long tunnel like pipe and capturing it on the other end. I really don't know how that works but this is from the guys who used to do this. I had spoken to them once to understand what reprocessed stereo was. I don't know if this was their own indigenous way of doing it or it was an accepted norm worldwide
blackisback
Member
Hi,
Totally agree.... have bought the new yaadon ki baarat and hum kisi se kum nahi..... quite bad they sound....
as you mentioned, where is wellington?
how does one get these old LP pressings?
bhaskarcan
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Very True Prem, you are in a better position to analyze the cause. But the timeline of stereo recording and stereo record pressing is very ambiguous. First of all, as you mentioned, stereo recording for Indian Classical music started in 1965/66. Pressing of stereo records in India (at DumDum) started in late '66. Still we see only a single attempt for a "pure" stereo OST record after 4 years in 1970 by Gramophone company. And after that nothing for another 5 years till Polydor came out with Sholay. But all this 10 years since '65/'66 Indian Classical music always had Stereo records. So either film OST's were never given the status of Classical music, or we did not have the technical know how to record a large orchestra in Stereo(Indian Classical music had very few instruments to record). Of course this is all regarding Hindi film OST. Love to know the history of regional language Stereo records.
bhaskarcan
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Wellington is an area in Kolkata where we have a few record shops selling old records.
blackisback
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oh cool..... will try and visit sometime when i travel to Kolkata..
i have an old but very very badly scratched hum kisi se kum nahi record...
its not playable as such, but the sound quality i amazing...
the new one i bought sounds just wrong...
i have an old but very very badly scratched hum kisi se kum nahi record...
its not playable as such, but the sound quality i amazing...
the new one i bought sounds just wrong...
From where did you get the new version? Another re release?
bhaskarcan
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Strange!....checking all the RK film LP's, I found that none of them are in stereo. Even as late as 1985, when Stereo recording was quite industry standard, "RamTeri..." Lp is a Mono record.
nraghunadh
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Yes Bhasker, really strange... don't know why this happens.
Even in 1990's "Henna" released in MONO.
Thanks,
Raghunadh
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