Sony launches a new Blu-ray player at Rs. 9,999/-

[kapvin]

Heavily damped chassis, electronic parts quality, sturdy mechanisms contribute to the quality of the final output as well as longevity. There is a reason why hi-end players weigh more and are built well.

I am sure the Sony at this price is a steal ! Very high value for money

Different people have different viewpoints to this. This is all that is alluded to.

sure, though, solely IMHO a heavier chassis is not the lowest hanging fruit in the quest for a better AV experience, at least at this price point. better clocks, jitter correction, a better analog output stage would probably show a higher ROI. all things which one cannot decipher from a cursory

The thingy is so light; it is lighter than my slim line dvd player from pioneer. The build quality is so flimsy

also, again solely IMHO, Unlike HI-FI products where i'd be very particular about build quality (like an amp which I can claim ownership for 22 years), one tends (needs) to change AV equipment a lot more often..(like both the yamaha AV-recievers in my sig are outdated in 5yrs and 2yr respectively, My SD Infocus projector is packed up after less than a 1000 hours of use).. so if at a given low price point there existed a choice, i would choose an AV product where the spend is on better electronics than on a heavier mechanism. again, just my choice :lol:

 

[square_wave]

sure, though, solely IMHO a heavier chassis is not the lowest hanging fruit in the quest for a better AV experience, at least at this price point. better clocks, jitter correction, a better analog output stage would probably show a higher ROI. all things which one cannot decipher from a cursory



also, again solely IMHO, Unlike HI-FI products where i'd be very particular about build quality (like an amp which I can claim ownership for 22 years), one tends (needs) to change AV equipment a lot more often..(like both the yamaha AV-recievers in my sig are outdated in 5yrs and 2yr respectively, My SD Infocus projector is packed up after less than a 1000 hours of use).. so if at a given low price point there existed a choice, i would choose an AV product where the spend is on better electronics than on a heavier mechanism. again, just my choice :lol:

Different viewpoints......This is exactly what I have been alluding to.

I look at things differently.

I do not change my cell phone every six months. I see no value to it.

BTW:better clocks, jitter correction, a better analog output stage cannot perform and exist in light weight, flimsy gadgets. They only exist in paper !

 

[kapvin]

Different viewpoints......This is exactly what I have been alluding to.

I look at things differently.

I do not change my cell phone every six months. I see no value it it.

BTW:better clocks, jitter correction, a better analog output stage cannot perform and exist in light weight, flimsy gadgets. They only exist in paper !

you are right.

I guess you should save up for this player.. it's the only one that'll tick all your boxes..

with a strong alumnunium faceplate.. it has all the heft you'd want.hyeah:

Lexicon - Product Details

or maybe when they come out with an improved "lexicon BDp-s370" with all the build weight that you want:clapping:

 

[square_wave]

you are right.

I guess you should save up for this player.. it's the only one that'll tick all your boxes..

with a strong alumnunium faceplate.. it has all the heft you'd want.hyeah:

Lexicon - Product Details

or maybe when they come out with an improved "lexicon BDp-s370" with all the build weight that you want:clapping:

This is a BD 83 clone sir !

Weight and good engineering at the right places. That is what one should look for ! Is this getting too complicated for you ?

 

[kapvin]

This is a BD 83 clone sir !

Weight and good engineering at the right places. That is what one should look for ! Is this getting too complicated for you ?

or the irony too much for you? i did not rate subtlety among my strengths:lol:


EDIT:: I guess you did not read my last statement on the lexicon s370.

it's not a BD83 clone!...It is a BD-83, with all the heft you'd want...

to paraphrase the Home theatre review

"The Lexicon BD-30 has the best build quality of any Blu-ray player I have seen to date. The thick, machined faceplate with deeply indented lettering and recessed area for the drawer and display are exceptional-looking, while the remainder of the case is rock solid. This isn't some Japanese stamped steel player, and for the price, it shouldn't be"

isn't this what rocks your boat?

you are very eager to put down a product on very cursory examination..

Do you know what's inside the BD-370 player?

And do'you know what actually does into all those "hefty" players that you allude to? The lex is snake oil that's discovered. you sure there none others, yet undiscovered?

EDIT:- I was just trying to make a point.. if you got it great.. otherwise.. i do not wise to drag this thread OT.

BTW i'll be happy to cart my s370 player for an A/B with any player you choose to mention. just remember the price paid when we do the comparison.

 

[bhuvanmisra]

i just bought it and returned home.
unfortunately it did not power it up when i plugged it into the socket:-(
i'll go back to croma (at aundh, pune) tomorrow morning at 11 am. hope they give me another piece.

it somehow worked at croma and also now works at my home! i have a panasonic 42g10 plasma.

however now the on screen display of the tv shows me 480p when i switch to the bdp. i'm playing the 2 free bdp's that came with the box. what could i be doing wrong? how do i get a 1080p signal on the hd plasma? spent only 30 minutes with it so far but could not figure out yet what to do.

appreciate any tips/help.

 

[kapvin]

it somehow worked at croma and also now works at my home! i have a panasonic 42g10 plasma.

however now the on screen display of the tv shows me 480p when i switch to the bdp. i'm playing the 2 free bdp's that came with the box. what could i be doing wrong? how do i get a 1080p signal on the hd plasma? spent only 30 minutes with it so far but could not figure out yet what to do.

appreciate any tips/help.

hi,

is it connected via hdmi?

if yes, you can go the the first part of the crossbar menu (setup), the secind last option is easy setup.. select that. otherwise - reset the player (last option).

if easy setup is not giving you a hi def image through HDMI, try changing the screen manuallythrough screen settings (second option in the setup crossbar)

hope this helps

 

[bhuvanmisra]

hi,

is it connected via hdmi?

if yes, you can go the the first part of the crossbar menu (setup), the secind last option is easy setup.. select that. otherwise - reset the player (last option).

if easy setup is not giving you a hi def image through HDMI, try changing the screen manuallythrough screen settings (second option in the setup crossbar)

hope this helps

thanks kapvin. let me jump out of bed and check out the suggestions!

 

[bhuvanmisra]

hi,

is it connected via hdmi?

if yes, you can go the the first part of the crossbar menu (setup), the secind last option is easy setup.. select that. otherwise - reset the player (last option).

if easy setup is not giving you a hi def image through HDMI, try changing the screen manuallythrough screen settings (second option in the setup crossbar)

hope this helps

yes, it is connected thru hdmi and the easy setup worked for me. maybe the player got setup to what it was played/tested on at croma. thanks

 

[square_wave]

or the irony too much for you? i did not rate subtlety among my strengths:lol:


EDIT:: I guess you did not read my last statement on the lexicon s370.

it's not a BD83 clone!...It is a BD-83, with all the heft you'd want...

to paraphrase the Home theatre review

"The Lexicon BD-30 has the best build quality of any Blu-ray player I have seen to date. The thick, machined faceplate with deeply indented lettering and recessed area for the drawer and display are exceptional-looking, while the remainder of the case is rock solid. This isn't some Japanese stamped steel player, and for the price, it shouldn't be"

isn't this what rocks your boat?

you are very eager to put down a product on very cursory examination..

Do you know what's inside the BD-370 player?

And do'you know what actually does into all those "hefty" players that you allude to? The lex is snake oil that's discovered. you sure there none others, yet undiscovered?

EDIT:- I was just trying to make a point.. if you got it great.. otherwise.. i do not wise to drag this thread OT.

BTW i'll be happy to cart my s370 player for an A/B with any player you choose to mention. just remember the price paid when we do the comparison.

You are a truly hilarious gentleman!
Weight and engineering at the right places ! Is this statement too complicated for you ?
Are you in some way alluding that I cannot make out the difference between fancy faceplates and cosmetic crap and good engineering?
If that was the case I would be listening to some polk audio loudspeaker or some heavy weight Yamaha AV reciever ! Sorry sir, Most electronics I use are hi-end DIY. Very well understand what goes into what !

 

[kapvin]

You are a truly hilarious gentleman!
Weight and engineering at the right places ! Is this statement too complicated for you ?
Are you in some way alluding that I cannot make out the difference between fancy faceplates and cosmetic crap and good engineering?
If that was the case I would be listening to some polk audio loudspeaker or some heavy weight Yamaha AV reciever ! Sorry sir, Most electronics I use are hi-end DIY. Very well understand what goes into what !

It's you who is amusing! and rather inclined to the infantile.

And you had to bring "a mine is bigger than yours" into this, right? thereby insulting all those who cannot afford bespoke equipment, which incidentially is about 50% of this forum.

Well, you'll come up short there as well. My sig carries my HT equipment and I joined this forum to discuss HT equipment, and was participating in a budget HT component discussion.

that does not mean that I do not have audio equipment with bragging rights. ;-). so my advice to you - try to keep focus on the discussion, and don't try to get into "I have better equipment, so I know more", you may bite off more than you can chew.

cheers

ps - DIY implies doing it yourself - are saying that you made all the equipment in your sig?

 

[allajunaki]

If only Sony put a block of concrete inside the blu ray, it would have been so well built

Seriously though, Weight dictating ur choice sounds a bit funny.
Yes, Jitter could be one of the reason, but then again, we are not talking about audiophile grade stuff here, are we?

One of the main reasons why most of the stuff is heavily weighed is because of the
a. Cooling equipment that goes in
b. The size of the electronics needed.

Since, chip fabrication is allowing chips to become smaller, lighter and much more efficient, the level of thermal leak produced by these comes down.
This in turn means, lesser power needed, more processing power, and since they are much more efficient, lesser cooling requirements.

Of course when it comes to amps, there are some things which we cannot make it smaller simply because of the physical nature of analog signals.

But when it comes to digital domain, we can!
Sorry, if you think if technology is enabling better stuff at lesser cost is stupid, then stop wasting ur time in such forums, we wont get it, and quite frankly we don't give a damn.

And oh! guys, we are talking about the sweet Blu Ray player for under 10k, lets stick to that, shall we?

Heavily damped chassis, electronic parts quality, sturdy mechanisms contribute to the quality of the final output as well as longevity. There is a reason why hi-end players weigh more and are built well.

I am sure the Sony at this price is a steal ! Very high value for money

Different people have different viewpoints to this. This is all that is alluded to.

 

[square_wave]

If only Sony put a block of concrete inside the blu ray, it would have been so well built

Seriously though, Weight dictating ur choice sounds a bit funny.
Yes, Jitter could be one of the reason, but then again, we are not talking about audiophile grade stuff here, are we?

One of the main reasons why most of the stuff is heavily weighed is because of the
a. Cooling equipment that goes in
b. The size of the electronics needed.

Since, chip fabrication is allowing chips to become smaller, lighter and much more efficient, the level of thermal leak produced by these comes down.
This in turn means, lesser power needed, more processing power, and since they are much more efficient, lesser cooling requirements.

Of course when it comes to amps, there are some things which we cannot make it smaller simply because of the physical nature of analog signals.

But when it comes to digital domain, we can!
Sorry, if you think if technology is enabling better stuff at lesser cost is stupid, then stop wasting ur time in such forums, we wont get it, and quite frankly we don't give a damn.

And oh! guys, we are talking about the sweet Blu Ray player for under 10k, lets stick to that, shall we?

Digital domain !

If your logic is correct, a latest dvd player costing 5k with the latest chip should sound similar to a ten year old DCS seperates ! I am waiting for that day ! People should be selling their transports and Dacs and invest in the latest shiny little universal player fabricated with smaller, lighter and much more efficient chips. They look awesome on paper !

I never attributed weight to quality !

Yes the blu ray player costing under 10 is superb value for money. I never contended that !

Seriously, I do not have a problem about anyone owning anything. It is their life and their priorities!

Alluding to a really stupid concept that gear designed with cheap components with awesome paper specs will result in great quality and longevity is what caught my goat ! Your experience may be different. Mine is definitely different. And I have been doing this for decades.

Yes I am wasting my time in a "blu ray player" thread . I realized that. Will not be posting in this thread anymore.

 

[KDM]

Is anyone else having a problem with dropouts?
This issue occurs when the BDP-S370 is connected via HDMI to certain Sony TV sets. I'm having this problem, which is occasional when playing BDs, but is somewhat more severe when playing back DVDs.

There seems to be an incompatibility issue with the Sony BDP-S370 BD Player and certain Sony TV sets, there's a thread discussing this on What HIFI's forum.

 

[jayandra]

Yes, the player S370 as per Sony India website plays the normal DVDs, VCDs, CDs and MP3.

No. VCDs/Super VCDs cannot be played in this Blu-ray player.

 

[kapvin]

Is anyone else having a problem with dropouts?
This issue occurs when the BDP-S370 is connected via HDMI to certain Sony TV sets. I'm having this problem, which is occasional when playing BDs, but is somewhat more severe when playing back DVDs.

There seems to be an incompatibility issue with the Sony BDP-S370 BD Player and certain Sony TV sets, there's a thread discussing this on What HIFI's forum.

nope, but neither player that I've purchased is used with a sony tv.

if it's a "sony tv only" problem, must be additional sony-sony functionality that's causing the dropouts and should be ironed out in a firmware upgrade. in the meantime you may want to turn off sony-link.

 

[adder]

Is anyone else having a problem with dropouts?
This issue occurs when the BDP-S370 is connected via HDMI to certain Sony TV sets. I'm having this problem, which is occasional when playing BDs, but is somewhat more severe when playing back DVDs.

There seems to be an incompatibility issue with the Sony BDP-S370 BD Player and certain Sony TV sets, there's a thread discussing this on What HIFI's forum.

which year model lcd do you have.

 

[partymonger]

Yup i saw that thread too, i think the problem was especially with W series

 

[KDM]

Yup i saw that thread too, i think the problem was especially with W series

This is true, but the problem also seems to be effecting some of Sony's other lines of TV sets. Only the old D series and the newest models seem impervious to this.

which year model lcd do you have.

KLV-32S400.

if it's a "sony tv only" problem, must be additional sony-sony functionality that's causing the dropouts and should be ironed out in a firmware upgrade. in the meantime you may want to turn off sony-link.

What HIFI has contacted Sony UK and they seem to say that a firmware update will be issued to fix this.

BTW, talking about Firmware updates - has anyone else updated the firmware of the BDP-S370 after having bought it?

 

[ma5yk]

BTW, talking about Firmware updates - has anyone else updated the firmware of the BDP-S370 after having bought it?

I was wondering if any firmware updates may kill the existing region-free settings. Right now I can play USA DVDs just fine. Can Sony turn around and lock this down?