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ST50 banding and green tint..do u have it too

http://www.hifivision.com/television/31429-st50-showing-break-slide-image-pixel-stream.html


Hi All,

I was running Break in slides today and to my horror noticed:

1. Pana is unable to show attached slide as an image. Its shows it as a stream of Pixels? Can you guys please check See first attachement . This is from standard BREAK IN SLIDES.. Slide number 5

2. Its full of banding and green tint specially on a grey back ground slide.
see second attachement

Whats ur take guys??

These are with absolutely low settings in mid twenties....

please check on your Pana, with low settings around 25 for contrast, Sharpness =0 & Colors=25, brightness=-30

True cinema is making things look more crap....damn not again Pana
http://www.hifivision.com/television/31429-st50-showing-break-slide-image-pixel-stream.html

Please this this link for images...guide guys it's brand new plasma and I will nw file a case for sure if this is not right...this is second replacement last was a used piece
 
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Re: ST50 banding and green tint..do u have it too

http://www.hifivision.com/television/31429-st50-showing-break-slide-image-pixel-stream.html


Hi All,

I was running Break in slides today and to my horror noticed:

1. Pana is unable to show attached slide as an image. Its shows it as a stream of Pixels? Can you guys please check See first attachement . This is from standard BREAK IN SLIDES.. Slide number 5

2. Its full of banding and green tint specially on a grey back ground slide.
see second attachement

Whats ur take guys??

These are with absolutely low settings in mid twenties....

please check on your Pana, with low settings around 25 for contrast, Sharpness =0 & Colors=25, brightness=-30

True cinema is making things look more crap....damn not again Pana
http://www.hifivision.com/television/31429-st50-showing-break-slide-image-pixel-stream.html

Please this this link for images...guide guys it's brand new plasma and I will nw file a case for sure if this is not right...this is second replacement last was a used piece

Im not in town, unable to view your images properly - no pc only this jurrasic symbian phone
1. Did not understand "cannot display image" and "stream of pixels". Are you running the slideshow from a usb pen drive. I did the same and it displayed the image. However for my set the darkest image for all colors was unusual. Also I was shocked by the amount of DSE (DIRTY SCREEN EFFECT) present.
2. Dont recall if green tinting was that obvious. Though BANDING was definitely not present(Hope its not your camera).
My settings - Con, Bri and sharpness - zero
Color - 50
True Cinema
I ran the slides for 200hrs non stop, except while watching DISH HD or BR RIPS for around 4 to 5 hours every day.
 
Re: ST50 banding and green tint..do u have it too

Im not in town, unable to view your images properly - no pc only this jurrasic symbian phone
1. Did not understand "cannot display image" and "stream of pixels". Are you running the slideshow from a usb pen drive. I did the same and it displayed the image. However for my set the darkest image for all colors was unusual. Also I was shocked by the amount of DSE (DIRTY SCREEN EFFECT) present.
2. Dont recall if green tinting was that obvious. Though BANDING was definitely not present(Hope its not your camera).
My settings - Con, Bri and sharpness - zero
Color - 50
True Cinema
I ran the slides for 200hrs non stop, except while watching DISH HD or BR RIPS for around 4 to 5 hours every day.



Thanks a loT...M playing it via USB...I can see bands with eyes as well....pm me ur mail I'd, I should be able to share the pics...

Stream of pixels best I can explain is like say how a tv looks without any signal and blue black screen setting..I mean it ideall should show it as an image however it was like dots kinds of....not sure how to put it..

This is only true for slide I have attached..rest all are shown the way it should be.,,white is yellowish though....

Thanks and look forward to your kind inputs when u reach back home.,,damn DSE is there for sure and usually DSE is caz of bands only.,
 
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lcdfreak
I understand your state of mind. Went through the same.
Understood the PIXEL STREAM issue. I had the same thing and found it to be normal (from other forums). Guess its the result of the low picture settings. Mine were at zero. Double check though.
 
Guys, i visited the panasonic brandshop at lohar chawl. He is offering me st50 for 100k and gt50 for 120k both for 50 inches. Which one should i go for ?? Is the price of gt50 reasonable?
 
Price of GT50 is slightly high. 115K should be OK.

If you are a serious videophile and watch lot of movies on BDP, go for GT50; else St50 is good enough.
 
called them up they dont have ST or GT in 50 inches and said can not even order it.

No dealer seems to have 50 GT / ST in stock. I was looking for 65VT50 but it was never launched in india. BTW is 50GT50 readily available at brand shop at lohar chawl? this year panasonic is not pushing plasma like before
 
No dealer seems to have 50 GT / ST in stock. I was looking for 65VT50 but it was never launched in india. BTW is 50GT50 readily available at brand shop at lohar chawl? this year panasonic is not pushing plasma like before

Yes he said it is readily available.
 
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I have joined this group of elite st50 owners.. Its 50ST50. Though I have got it installed yday, yet to rearrange couple things before I post some photos here..

First things first.. Protect it from Burn-in, before my kids starts abusing it with pogo and chota bean.. Reduced the brightness and contrast. Also enabled Zoom3

Is there a screen saver available in ST50 ?.. I couldn't find one in menu.

Also, is there a way to put break-in slides as screen saver ? :). One option I am checking is whether I could load some video files to airtel STB and enable screen saver on it.

Also, any good ref to break in slides. I found one at Evangelos Angelides - Downloads.
 
Hi friends,

Based on a study and demoing over two weeks, we finalised the 42ST50 for us. This thread helped me a great deal in this decision making. Thanks to you all. The options I considered included Sony HX850 and Panasonic ET50 (both LED-LCDs). Before I saw the Neoplasma, I had ruled out Plasma TV as my living room is sufficiently lighted during the day. But the Neoplasma of ST50 changed my mind. Of course there was no comparison between the natural image of the plasma with the concocted image of the LCDs.

The TV is not available ex-stock (only the display piece), so shall have to wait for 10-12 days as the shipment of new lot is at the docks, as per the dealer.

Meanwhile I have the following questions, the answers to which may help me install and enjoy this TV better:

1. What is preferable - wall mount or TV stand? My viewing would be done from a sofa. If I keep the stand on a AV furniture stand, I guess the center of the TV might be around my eye level, or slightly lower. But I am worried about it toppling down if someone/thing hits against it. The wall mount could be adjusted to a height so that the eye level is matched with the 1/3rd of the screen from bottom (prescribed height for viewing as per many articles). But is this TV (around 20+ kg) safe enough to mount on a wall?

2. How do you route the AV cables in both the cases (stand and mount). What are the best options available that are functional and aesthetic? Any links to the purchasing sites would help.

3. I realise during the first 100 hours I need to take the following care: Not let an image freeze for long; Use full screen without any black-bars; Constantly changing channels; and Keep contrast and brightness low (say 30%). I am ready to do these even if I would need to wait this period before I can enjoy the picture of the TV. Are there any other precautions I need to follow during this period? Also, since I use the incablenet, their logo appears (in dim) on every channel... I am worried if this may cause a problem?

4. What are the best options available to view HD films (both Indian and English... especially classics) online? Either paid/free. Can you please point me to a few sites that have good content accessible from India? Also, would I need a broadband speed higher than my current 1mbps? DVDs is always an option, I'd also search for a library nearby.

5. Any particular soundbar you'd suggest that is good and goes well with the looks and size of this panel? I haven't yet set up my music system, but it would consist of 2.1 speakers, mainly for music. I am not into the HT effect.

6. Any other suggestions you deem important to follow.

Thanks & Happy Diwali.
 
Hi friends,

Based on a study and demoing over two weeks, we finalised the 42ST50 for us. This thread helped me a great deal in this decision making. Thanks to you all. The options I considered included Sony HX850 and Panasonic ET50 (both LED-LCDs). Before I saw the Neoplasma, I had ruled out Plasma TV as my living room is sufficiently lighted during the day. But the Neoplasma of ST50 changed my mind. Of course there was no comparison between the natural image of the plasma with the concocted image of the LCDs.

The TV is not available ex-stock (only the display piece), so shall have to wait for 10-12 days as the shipment of new lot is at the docks, as per the dealer.
Indeed this is a great TV. I too had evaluated the Sony HX850. I found it near/at par with ST50. But as I posted earlier, the 50ST50 with free HT at 105K vs. 46HX850 solo at 119k (119,500 to be precise) was clear differentiationg factor. I sold off the HT and procured the BDP instead and in effect the TV costed me 96K. Leaving aside PQ and other factors (which to me was same on both sets), 4" extra area at 23K less was something hard to ignore. :)

Meanwhile I have the following questions, the answers to which may help me install and enjoy this TV better:

1. What is preferable - wall mount or TV stand? My viewing would be done from a sofa. If I keep the stand on a AV furniture stand, I guess the center of the TV might be around my eye level, or slightly lower. But I am worried about it toppling down if someone/thing hits against it. The wall mount could be adjusted to a height so that the eye level is matched with the 1/3rd of the screen from bottom (prescribed height for viewing as per many articles). But is this TV (around 20+ kg) safe enough to mount on a wall?
The TV stand is very rugged and steady but wall mount is better because it is permanent and much more steady. That said, the TV will not fall off that easily from desktop stand. I tested it. It takes a lot of force to tip it over. It is your call. Wall mount supports my 50" much heavier TV. But the wall behind must be a cement wall and not wooden.

When installing, be it desk or wall, ensure that the eye level is to the horizaontal center of TV max. It can be lower but having the center horizontal above eye level means that you will have to look up and may(?) cause neck cramps

2. How do you route the AV cables in both the cases (stand and mount). What are the best options available that are functional and aesthetic? Any links to the purchasing sites would help.
HDMI cables are the best and these alone should be used to enjoy HD. Component cables are the next best bet. Composite cable will yield the worst quality. TV does not come with any AV cable. If you have HD STB like TataSKy, an HDMI cable would be included. If not, you can buy HDMI cables from local stores or eBay. Do not overspend. A Rs. 250/- 1.5m HDMI cable is good enough.

3. I realise during the first 100 hours I need to take the following care: Not let an image freeze for long; Use full screen without any black-bars; Constantly changing channels; and Keep contrast and brightness low (say 30%). I am ready to do these even if I would need to wait this period before I can enjoy the picture of the TV. Are there any other precautions I need to follow during this period? Also, since I use the incablenet, their logo appears (in dim) on every channel... I am worried if this may cause a problem?
Make that 200 hours. Do the following:

- set contrast to 35 and brightness to -10
- use appropriate zoom mode to dislodge the channel and DTH logos off the screen
- do not watch the same channel for too long; use the ad-breaks effectively to surf
- avoid news channels for too long (more than 30 mins - anyway most news channels are crap)
- run break-in slides every day for 1 hour

4. What are the best options available to view HD films (both Indian and English... especially classics) online? Either paid/free. Can you please point me to a few sites that have good content accessible from India? Also, would I need a broadband speed higher than my current 1mbps? DVDs is always an option, I'd also search for a library nearby.
Sorry. Don't know of any. Others may contribute. I buy blu-ray's and that is the best for me. For online streaming, you will need a broadband with minimum 4 mbps speed unlimited usage and no FUP. Best way is to rent DVDs and BDs.

5. Any particular soundbar you'd suggest that is good and goes well with the looks and size of this panel? I haven't yet set up my music system, but it would consist of 2.1 speakers, mainly for music. I am not into the HT effect.
Most soundbars are expensive at 25K+. For ordinary TV viewing, soundbar is not required. Only when watching movies, you may feel the need.

6. Any other suggestions you deem important to follow.

Thanks & Happy Diwali.
Just take good care of the TV. Use dim light surrounding to watch. Happy Diwali to you too.
 
I have joined this group of elite st50 owners.. Its 50ST50. Though I have got it installed yday, yet to rearrange couple things before I post some photos here..

First things first.. Protect it from Burn-in, before my kids starts abusing it with pogo and chota bean.. Reduced the brightness and contrast. Also enabled Zoom3

Is there a screen saver available in ST50 ?.. I couldn't find one in menu.

Also, is there a way to put break-in slides as screen saver ? :). One option I am checking is whether I could load some video files to airtel STB and enable screen saver on it.

Also, any good ref to break in slides. I found one at Evangelos Angelides - Downloads.

Any comments ?
 
There are no built-in screen savers. I am disappointed with the fact. And there is no automatic way to put break-in slides as screen saver. At least I don't know how. One can always do a continuous slideshow using manual control. The break-in slides you found are the correct one. There could be others too but basically serve the same purpose.
 
Many thanks fore replying, just4kix.

But as I posted earlier, the 50ST50 with free HT at 105K vs. 46HX850 solo at 119k (119,500 to be precise) was clear differentiationg factor. I sold off the HT and procured the BDP instead and in effect the TV costed me 96K.

I am getting the 42 inch for 80k with the printer offer. The only better offers were online (e.g. infibeam at 77.5k), but since this dealer (Kohinoor) had given me excellent service very patiently (spending almost 3 hrs over 3 visits demoing various TVs to my requirement), I decided to go with him. If anyone is trying Kohinoor Thane, then look for Upendra, he is the best of the lot.


The TV stand is very rugged and steady but wall mount is better because it is permanent and much more steady. That said, the TV will not fall off that easily from desktop stand. I tested it. It takes a lot of force to tip it over. It is your call. Wall mount supports my 50" much heavier TV. But the wall behind must be a cement wall and not wooden.

I have a brick & mortar wall, so would go for mounting it.

When installing, be it desk or wall, ensure that the eye level is to the horizaontal center of TV max.[/b] It can be lower but having the center horizontal above eye level means that you will have to look up and may(?) cause neck cramps

Agreed.

HDMI cables are the best and these alone should be used to enjoy HD. Component cables are the next best bet. Composite cable will yield the worst quality. TV does not come with any AV cable. If you have HD STB like TataSKy, an HDMI cable would be included. If not, you can buy HDMI cables from local stores or eBay. Do not overspend. A Rs. 250/- 1.5m HDMI cable is good enough.

I plan to buy HD STB. Which of Tata/Videocon/Airtel/Dish is preferred by this videophile group?

Make that 200 hours. Do the following:

- set contrast to 35 and brightness to -10
- use appropriate zoom mode to dislodge the channel and DTH logos off the screen
- do not watch the same channel for too long; use the ad-breaks effectively to surf
- avoid news channels for too long (more than 30 mins - anyway most news channels are crap)
- run break-in slides every day for 1 hour

Thanks. Shall be careful about it. Is break-in slides compulsory if one follows the other tips? Wouldn't normal viewing achieve the same effect over a period of time... as in all the three colors of a pixel getting used?
 
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When you get the delivery of your new panel, how do you ascertain its health? What are the things to look for? Would putting on a white screen help to detect any bad pixels or uneven colors?
 
Many thanks fore replying, just4kix.



I am getting the 42 inch for 80k with the printer offer. The only better offers were online (e.g. infibeam at 77.5k), but since this dealer (Kohinoor) had given me excellent service very patiently (spending almost 3 hrs over 3 visits demoing various TVs to my requirement), I decided to go with him. If anyone is trying Kohinoor Thane, then look for Upendra, he is the best of the lot.




I have a brick & mortar wall, so would go for mounting it.



Agreed.



I plan to buy HD STB. Which of Tata/Videocon/Airtel/Dish is preferred by this videophile group?



Thanks. Shall be careful about it. Is break-in slides compulsory if one follows the other tips? Wouldn't normal viewing achieve the same effect over a period of time... as in all the three colors of a pixel getting used?
I find that establishing a good relationship with the dealer helps in resolving issues later. The dealer can and will go the extra mile to make you happier. The personal touch is sometimes helpful.

You can wall mount the TV. This will give you not only peace of mind but also yield some extra space. Break in Slides and normal viewing achieve the same effect, i.e., sing the phosphors. Where break in slides win or do a better job is making this a uniform and even process. I didn't use break in slides that much.


Regarding HD service, Videocon is cheaper with max HD channels. No idea with the pq. Tatasky gives excellent pq but is very expensive. Do a demo and then decide.


When you get the delivery of your new panel, how do you ascertain its health? What are the things to look for? Would putting on a white screen help to detect any bad pixels or uneven colors?

You should check. And here is where a good relationship with the dealer will help in case of issues. But it is unlikely that you will find problems with a new set.

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